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FoxNews slams Military: Major Label of Sniper is "Army Vet" NOT "Islamic Sniper"
Fox News, 01:00 AM (NewsBreak)
Posted on 10/24/2002 10:18:49 PM PDT by xzins
This is outrageous!
The truth is that
1. Islamics blew up the World Trade Center
2. Islamics blew up a wing of the Pentagon in which many members of the ARMY died.
3. Islamics blew up the USS Cole in which US military died.
4. Islam is the issue with Al Quaeda and Bin Laden.
This man is JOHN MUHAMMED, an Islamic who was "sympathetic" to the 9/11 terrorists.
He's been out of the Army for years. He never received specialized training in sniping in the Army. He DIDN'T MAKE IT in the Army.
But the lead is: "Army Vet"
As a 20 year Army retiree, I deeply resent this, but I resent even more the politically correct culture that makes it impossible to call an islamic terrorist an islamic terrorist.
TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: correctness; fox; islam; labels; military; political; sniper; terrorism
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posted on
10/24/2002 10:18:50 PM PDT
by
xzins
To: xzins
Who is more likely to kill innocent americans
1. a practioner of islam
2. a follower of Farrakhan
3. US Army Veteran
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posted on
10/24/2002 10:23:32 PM PDT
by
joesnuffy
To: xzins
Lighten up. We don't know if this murderer is being considered or classified as an official Islamic terrorist. But we do know, he is a 10 year Army veteran. If he has any real connections to Islamic terrorism, that will eventually come out. It's very early in the final round of this investigation. Be patient.
To: SpookBrat; Snow Bunny; VaBthang4; Logic n' Reason; rangerwife; MichaelP; Steelerfan; ...
ping
they could have called him a karate instructor, a robber, a lube/oil store manager....nope....Army Vet. But, of course -- we're all flippin' nutso!
The critical element is "islamic!" But they won't say it.
4
posted on
10/24/2002 10:25:39 PM PDT
by
xzins
To: xzins
Ok who said what that got you so upset? Greta? Come on what do you expect from her.
The coverage I saw, earlier in the evening on Fox, Brit Hume, Shepard Smith, and particularly Fred Barnes, was very clear in pointing out Johnnys association with Islam.
5
posted on
10/24/2002 10:26:53 PM PDT
by
Kerberos
To: joesnuffy
islam, farrakhan, or Army......let's see...
Army guys runnin' all over the place in this country randomly killing folks.
Hope the islamics come here and put them in their place!
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posted on
10/24/2002 10:28:02 PM PDT
by
xzins
To: Reagan Man
He is muslim which means he practices Islam. He is a terrorist by his actions. He is then an Islamic Terrorist. Any questions? Is there really a difference between an Islamic Terrorist who belongs to a gang or group? and one that is and very well might be connected to a group or cell or gang?
You are right. We need to be a bit patient..I will give the government until tomorrow to come out and tell us to move along..nothing to see here. Islam is peace. Bullshit.
To: Reagan Man
I think most people here think (and some have thought throughout the killings) that the shooter is not some AQ agent sent straight from Osama's cave, but rather a wannabe, or sympathizer, or junior varisty second-tier peripheral player, kind of like the LAX shooter, the bus slasher, the acne plane crash kid, etc. The toll from these hangers-on is starting to add up.
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posted on
10/24/2002 10:30:33 PM PDT
by
eno_
To: Reagan Man
Be Patient.
Won't do it! This is sliming the people who are dying for you getting rid of these bastards.
He created terror AND he's Islamic = Islamic terrorist.
9
posted on
10/24/2002 10:30:34 PM PDT
by
xzins
To: My Favorite Headache
Peaceful Islam
What a crock!
10
posted on
10/24/2002 10:31:49 PM PDT
by
xzins
To: Kerberos
Fred Barnes was losing his mind..he was totally pissed before on Brit. I have never seen him so angry. Especially when talking about how no apologies or cares about everyone saying it was going to be some young white right wing gun toting nut.
Fred spoke the truth...the panel was a little shaken you could tell. Good on Fred. When Brit said to Fred that he was gonna get a ton of e-mail on it tomorrow Fred shrugged and did not care one bit.
We need more of Fred's in this country. The truth hurts sometimes.
To: Kerberos
greta?
Nope....the current, early AM "newsbreak chick" whoever the heck she is.
But she's reading a teleprompter, so it's not her words -- it's Fox's words.
12
posted on
10/24/2002 10:33:31 PM PDT
by
xzins
To: My Favorite Headache
"Fred Barnes was losing his mind..he was totally pissed before on Brit. "Yeah Fred went off, it was pretty cool. I particularly liked it when the gal from NPR, whose name I can't remember, started to put her liberal slant on it, Fred shut her down pretty quick.
13
posted on
10/24/2002 10:35:43 PM PDT
by
Kerberos
To: xzins
>>>This is sliming the people who are dying for you getting rid of these bastards.I haven't heard Fox News "slime" anyone, especially not America's men and women in uniform. And I didn't ask anyone to join the military either. I just said be patient.
Now take your frustrations out on someone else, jerkface!
To: Kerberos
She started to laugh and Fred went nuts. Brit just let him run with it. It was obvious Mort and the liberal dunce had no balance to their side. Fred had every right to be pissed.
To: xzins
"He created terror AND he's Islamic = Islamic terrorist."Other things put this wacko over the top besides anti-western ideologies. A crude mix of evil. The Islamic angle to this incident is more incidental than fundamental, but it's there.
You'll have to trust the public in discerning that this incident is not attributable to the US Army per se, although I have to admit the general public is dang stupid.
To: xzins
You are right...
he is no "lifer". Funny how they make it sound like he received some specialized sniper training while in the military, just because he shot good. He changed his name to Mohammed, and I doubt his rampage had any motives concerning his previous service with the U.S. military.
This is just another way of blaming what happened on anything but what is responsible, Islam and John "Mohammed".
To: Reagan Man
Oh come on Reagan, you know that when someone says "die for you" they mean it in the editorial sense.
Unless YOU work for FoxNews then YOU weren't included in that "you."
I'm PO'd and you're supposed to help me stay that way!
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posted on
10/24/2002 10:42:41 PM PDT
by
xzins
To: xzins
The only positive identification is his military connection. Yes he is a Muslim, but it would be inaccurate for a journalist to delve into speculation as to Islamicist connections as of yet.
I have no problem with holding off yet proclaiming the Muslim label. Everyone knows he is a Muslim by his name as it is; it is not rocket science to determine this.
To: xzins
That is the aspect that deals with violence.
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