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To: xzins
You are right... he is no "lifer". Funny how they make it sound like he received some specialized sniper training while in the military, just because he shot good. He changed his name to Mohammed, and I doubt his rampage had any motives concerning his previous service with the U.S. military.

This is just another way of blaming what happened on anything but what is responsible, Islam and John "Mohammed".

17 posted on 10/24/2002 10:41:46 PM PDT by KineticKitty
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To: KineticKitty
I doubt his rampage had any motives concerning his previous service with the U.S. military.

Exactly.

1. He was trying to funnel 10 million bucks into a credit card account.
2. They knew they weren't going to be able to go to the local "Applebees" and use that card for dinner without getting traced.
3. They knew they weren't going to pull it out of an ATM at $300 a whack.
4. They were going to WIRE IT to Whom? For what cause? 5. And the total plan: random murder, money transfer, extortion is pretty sophisticated for someone who was sleeping in a junky car at a reststop.

26 posted on 10/24/2002 10:50:47 PM PDT by xzins
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To: KineticKitty
For the parts of this that are going to be involved in the criminal prosecution/s of the murders, it's important to focus on the "what" - "just the facts." To prevent other suchlike stuff, to deal with the "why" stuff - other people will deal with that - out of the view of the public and the media. And rightly so.
29 posted on 10/24/2002 10:51:53 PM PDT by 185JHP
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To: KineticKitty
they're making too much out of his marksmanship score...one would have to go back to the range where he last shot expert, and see how many times he actually shot expert- many ranges are old, with mechanical pop up targets that don't work, thus creating "alibi's" at the end of the session where the shooter expends the last of his ammunition on closer targets- if he had a "spotter" sitting on the bench next to him counting his hits, instead of recording them electronically his score would go up- a lot of ranges are fairly barren, making the pop ups easy to see- I spent a couple of decades in the Army- believe me, I'm no shot, but once, on a Ft. Campbell range I was scored an "expert" based upon the above criteria...I was a CW2 running a motor pool and my "spotter" was one of my mechanics who was cheesing up for a pass...
135 posted on 10/25/2002 5:12:26 AM PDT by nicko
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To: KineticKitty
Funny how they make it sound like he received some specialized sniper training while in the military, just because he shot good

As I understand it, he had an expert marksmanship ribbon. Big deal. In regular, routine training with a firearm -- which everyone in the military receives, regardless if they are a cook or a mechanic -- he shot well enough to qualify "expert." So did I, as an intelligence officer in the USAF. And trust me, I just got lucky, having never fired a weapon before in my life. My commander (who didn't shoot "expert," by the way) had a field day calling me "Deadeye." What a crock.

178 posted on 10/25/2002 8:08:47 AM PDT by pettifogger
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