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I'll take this a step further. We've seen many (not all) administrators and teachers pushing indoctrination on students, writing the DOJ to treat parents as terrorists, weaponizing "trans" behind parents backs, demanding that students be forced to get experimental shots and wear masks in class, and most recently the whole "grooming" saga.

Do we REALLY want to arm this lot?


1 posted on 05/30/2022 6:51:30 AM PDT by DoodleBob
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Secure the damn school. The kid got in because a teacher had propped open a door.


2 posted on 05/30/2022 6:54:48 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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If a conservative doxes a liberal lowlife, that conservative is doing the country a great service. These people must be opposed in many different ways.


3 posted on 05/30/2022 6:56:31 AM PDT by allendale
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It’s a good point you make about arming idiots and ideologues, but the author saying teachers can be trained to shoot but can’t be trained in situational awareness is just stupid.


5 posted on 05/30/2022 6:59:49 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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When you kick God out of government schools and forbid reading the Bible and the Constitution, teachers BETTER carry guns.

What used to be admirable centers of learning are now war zones thanks to the godless Left, the perps who always pretend they are the solution.


6 posted on 05/30/2022 7:00:30 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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I don’t think anyone is arguing that we should have teachers carrying guns like cowboys did in those old westerns. That’s just a goofy idea.

But properly vetted teachers and school administrators should have quick access to guns, should the need arise. Hidden safes in a few rooms should do the trick.

The author (who is evidently some kind of super-trooper) is wrong when she says we should continue to rely on the police. When seconds count, even well-trained and motivated police are minutes away.


7 posted on 05/30/2022 7:02:14 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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I would like to point to the report that the police on-scene were missing equipment. I don't recall exactly what the LEOs were waiting for, but the article mentioned something about shields.

Perhaps the more prudent thing is to build "LEO lockers" at schools, to have some inexpensive safety equipment on-site. This would be especially good for those schools in "gun free zones". Having a stash of safety equipment would make incursion safer for the first responding police.

There are fewer schools than patrol cars. The cost would be lower using such lockers.

8 posted on 05/30/2022 7:04:41 AM PDT by asinclair (What doesn't kill you makes you stronger)
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The discussion concerning arming school teachers is off, it’s a distraction, a red herring.

Schools can install fencing and surveillance cameras AND employ an armed guard.

This is what needs funding, NOT $40,000,000,000 for some corrupt government six thousand miles away.


9 posted on 05/30/2022 7:04:47 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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Right. And you would rather have two dozen cops on the scene standing around doing nothing.

There is nothing wrong with arming and training competent school staff rather than relying on incompetent local law enforcement.


10 posted on 05/30/2022 7:05:06 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I love my country. It's my government that I hate.)
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Make it optional, shouldn't force anyone to carry. And let armed parents volunteer to patrol the school, especially former military.

And while I understand about active shooter training, which I haven't had, I think in most situations just having armed individuals prepared to use their weapon would stop things.


12 posted on 05/30/2022 7:06:36 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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Additionally, there is confusion regarding the actions of police and a school resource officer in Uvalde. Rather than arming teachers, perhaps we need to reconsider how we train police officers.

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This crap is just more gun grabbing nonsense from The Hill.

Does this ditzy broad not know that Uvalde officers just went through a mass shooting training exercise two months ago?

These officers were trained. Yet we all saw how effective that training was.


13 posted on 05/30/2022 7:07:53 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I love my country. It's my government that I hate.)
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[[But I would never want to. ...most teachers are not trained in situational awareness]]

Ummm, that is where training g comes in! Teachers absolutely should carry. Had they done so, the shooter would be dead and less students killed most likely.

There are some problems though that come with arming teachers ie thug students might be able to get guns away from teacher, by surprise, but other teachers being alerted tl the problem would be around to confront the scum long before cops got there. Also shooters would target teachers first, but again, there would be other teachers there to,confront the scum, and honestly, the scum would not be attacking schools nearly as much as they do now if they knew they would be taken out quickly- only the most mentally disturbed would attempt it, and those folks b y all rights should be on the fbi’s radar, and prevented from owning guns because of their stated violent tendencies and threats. The most mentslly,disturbed seem to love advertising g their j tensions for recognition sake. School shootings would go way way down (although there have only been 13 since 1966 amss casualty shootings in schools, but still. That number would be way down if teachers were armed and Trained

There is no good reason not to have teachers trained and armed, or at the very least, tl have armed guards in numbers enough to stop scum thugs from doing what they do.


15 posted on 05/30/2022 7:12:52 AM PDT by Bob434 (.)
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The plans used for CC teachers requires that teachers be trained for these situations.


17 posted on 05/30/2022 7:22:19 AM PDT by Mlheureux
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The plans used for CC teachers requires that teachers be trained for these situations.


18 posted on 05/30/2022 7:23:43 AM PDT by Mlheureux
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It is really silly to demand that anyone who responds to a mass murderer be SWAT trained.

Many teachers are leftoloons. OK. Welcome to the USA in 2022. Lots of crazy “we are the world” naive twits out there. Teachers are just one more group.

People who advocate arming teachers are NOT saying we should pass out SIG 226s like candy. However, there are many level headed, responsible persons on most faculties who would welcome the training and responsibility.

I really don’t see why this is such a controversy


21 posted on 05/30/2022 7:26:26 AM PDT by tanstaafl.72555
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If a teacher is background checked, trained, willing and conservative, they should be able to carry, even if the rest of the school is full of "no guns" signs.
Why conservative? Because I expect a liberal teacher to shoot a student to make the point that teachers should not carry.
Plus they are often unhinged to begin with.

22 posted on 05/30/2022 7:29:25 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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most teachers are not trained in situational awareness.

I suppose not, but the cops WERE trained and still they did nothing, or at least not enough. And a teacher would already be inside the building.

Also, a good guy with a handgun DID stop the bad guy with his AR-15 (or whatever he had).

There's a lot of those teacher clowns who I wouldn't want to have a gun, but it could be on a volunteer basis.

25 posted on 05/30/2022 7:33:40 AM PDT by libertylover (Our BIGGEST problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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It works in Israel. And I think if it was done in the safest way it could work. But they need to have someone keeping a check on these doors. Need to be locked. I never found out how many entrances to that school there were. Just so happen to be the 1 door that the teacher left open was the 1 he ran to. The cops really screwed the pooch. They chased him towards the school and ran when shot at. Then didn’t go in after him. When he went in was the door still open or did it lock behind him.


27 posted on 05/30/2022 7:36:31 AM PDT by glimmerman70
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Rather than arming teachers, perhaps we need to reconsider how we train police officers

According to some reports, the Uvalde School District Police force went through special training just a couple of months ago.

When required to act on THAT training, they failed miserably.

After-sight and after-action reports always end in woulda-shoulda-coulda. Plans goes out the window when the first shot is fired.


34 posted on 05/30/2022 7:49:26 AM PDT by TomGuy
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Tracy Walder would have waited 78 minutes, too.

Because "orders".

So she can shut her fedbot piehole.

36 posted on 05/30/2022 7:51:30 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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Teachers who teach CRT and want to sexualize kids definitely cannot be trusted with weapons.


43 posted on 05/30/2022 8:04:32 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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