Do we REALLY want to arm this lot?
Posted on 05/30/2022 6:51:30 AM PDT by DoodleBob
As a teacher, mother of an elementary school student in Texas, and someone who once carried a gun for a living and has been trained in situational awareness and firearm tactics, no one perhaps is more prepared than I to carry a gun in my classroom. But I would never want to.
...most teachers are not trained in situational awareness. It is not hard to learn to shoot a gun; teachers could learn this with a few days of training. What takes far longer, however, is learning to respond properly to an active shooter.
As a former staff operations officer at the CIA and former FBI special agent, I have undergone extensive training and am confident in my ability to run toward a violent situation, rather than away from it. But asking teachers to carry weapons and assuming they will be prepared for such a situation is risky. My training was rife with high-pressure scenarios, to work on a phenomenon known as “fear extinction.” This is where you learn to lower your fear response after multiple exposures to a stimulus. To dampen the pre-conditioned fear response to an active shooter scenario would require working with teachers on a case-by-case basis.
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Additionally, there is confusion regarding the actions of police and a school resource officer in Uvalde. Rather than arming teachers, perhaps we need to reconsider how we train police officers....According to the program guide for the Bexar County Policy Academy in San Antonio, the largest city near Uvalde, there is not a section of training dedicated to situational awareness, mental toughness, or fear extinction.
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Do we REALLY want to arm this lot?
Secure the damn school. The kid got in because a teacher had propped open a door.
If a conservative doxes a liberal lowlife, that conservative is doing the country a great service. These people must be opposed in many different ways.
No outside windows for that classroom??
When you kick God out of government schools and forbid reading the Bible and the Constitution, teachers BETTER carry guns.
What used to be admirable centers of learning are now war zones thanks to the godless Left, the perps who always pretend they are the solution.
I don’t think anyone is arguing that we should have teachers carrying guns like cowboys did in those old westerns. That’s just a goofy idea.
But properly vetted teachers and school administrators should have quick access to guns, should the need arise. Hidden safes in a few rooms should do the trick.
The author (who is evidently some kind of super-trooper) is wrong when she says we should continue to rely on the police. When seconds count, even well-trained and motivated police are minutes away.
Perhaps the more prudent thing is to build "LEO lockers" at schools, to have some inexpensive safety equipment on-site. This would be especially good for those schools in "gun free zones". Having a stash of safety equipment would make incursion safer for the first responding police.
There are fewer schools than patrol cars. The cost would be lower using such lockers.
The discussion concerning arming school teachers is off, it’s a distraction, a red herring.
Schools can install fencing and surveillance cameras AND employ an armed guard.
This is what needs funding, NOT $40,000,000,000 for some corrupt government six thousand miles away.
Right. And you would rather have two dozen cops on the scene standing around doing nothing.
There is nothing wrong with arming and training competent school staff rather than relying on incompetent local law enforcement.
Teachers are left winger s who belong to the powerful unions and control the NEA
Teachers with firearms are worthless defenders
Additionally, there is confusion regarding the actions of police and a school resource officer in Uvalde. Rather than arming teachers, perhaps we need to reconsider how we train police officers.
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This crap is just more gun grabbing nonsense from The Hill.
Does this ditzy broad not know that Uvalde officers just went through a mass shooting training exercise two months ago?
These officers were trained. Yet we all saw how effective that training was.
> Secure the damn school. The kid got in because a teacher had propped open a door. <
That’s a good first step. But I honestly don’t think it means all that much. A shooter with a hammer could easily break a glass door or a first-floor window, and be inside in a minute. Or he could just wait until the dismissal bell rang for the day.
I favor allowing properly vetted staff access to firearms, as I noted in my post #7. And have one of them armed and standing discretely off to one side at dismissal time. Some churches do that now.
[[But I would never want to. ...most teachers are not trained in situational awareness]]
Ummm, that is where training g comes in! Teachers absolutely should carry. Had they done so, the shooter would be dead and less students killed most likely.
There are some problems though that come with arming teachers ie thug students might be able to get guns away from teacher, by surprise, but other teachers being alerted tl the problem would be around to confront the scum long before cops got there. Also shooters would target teachers first, but again, there would be other teachers there to,confront the scum, and honestly, the scum would not be attacking schools nearly as much as they do now if they knew they would be taken out quickly- only the most mentally disturbed would attempt it, and those folks b y all rights should be on the fbi’s radar, and prevented from owning guns because of their stated violent tendencies and threats. The most mentslly,disturbed seem to love advertising g their j tensions for recognition sake. School shootings would go way way down (although there have only been 13 since 1966 amss casualty shootings in schools, but still. That number would be way down if teachers were armed and Trained
There is no good reason not to have teachers trained and armed, or at the very least, tl have armed guards in numbers enough to stop scum thugs from doing what they do.
Good,point. There shoukld be cameras given how violent schools have become- the left screamed about making g cops wear cameras to keep,them accountable, well what about teachers? They should be held accountible too, and cameras would be a way of securing classrooms for situations just like this. Heck, you wouldn’t even need to keep them running full time, just have them turn on automatically whenever an alert is issued.
There are many ways to secure schools, all of which the left oppose vehemently. This alone tells us everything we need to know about the left.
The plans used for CC teachers requires that teachers be trained for these situations.
The plans used for CC teachers requires that teachers be trained for these situations.
Secure the damn school. The kid got in because a teacher had propped open a door.
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Why not also put a combat-experienced cop in every school — with a pistol, a bullet proof vest, and access to a safe with some real firepower?
> There should be cameras given how violent schools have become... <
I’m a retired urban public high school teacher. And I would have LOVED to have had cameras in my classroom. I’m not exaggerating when I say that 95% of my colleagues would agree with me.
We did have cameras in the hallways, and in the parking lot. Here’s how that went way too often:
Teacher: There was a fight in the hallway in front of my classroom.
Administrator: I just checked. The hallway camera is out of order.
Teacher: Someone broke into my car while I was teaching.
Administrator: I just checked. The parking lot camera is out of order.
Unfortunately, the #1 priority of most school administrators these days is not student safety or teacher safety. It’s public relations. Bury all the bad news.
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