Brass tacks discussion on Islam

[Jim Robinson]

Ok, let's get down to brass tacks.

How long has the Islam religion been around and have they always been so hateful and violent (like so many of them are today)?

I believe they claim to be direct descendants of Abraham but I also believe that Abraham was a favorite of our one true Judeo-Christian God, and was the father or grandfather of the Jewish and Christian religions.

I have a hard time believing that our loving Judeo-Christian God is also the Islam God, Allah, whose Muslim followers seem to be so misplaced.

Haven't the warlike Muslim tribes fanned out and violently conquered every nation in their 1400 year path of conquest?

Did God command them to conquer and dominate the entire world? Did he command them to demand infidels to submit, convert or die?

Who and what are these people and who is Allah?

This Muslim violence seems to have been going on worldwide for at least 1400 years.

Could it be that Islam IS the enemy (despite Obama's many denials)?

[Jim Robinson]

I’m beginning to come to that same conclusion. Wonder what our elected reps think about this?

[jpsb]

"Why does our president insist that Muslims can live peacefully within our society without their foreign belief systems and alien Sharia law in place?"

I will not attempt to get into zero head. I wish to remain sane. I'm just hoping we make it another 14 months without several cities nuked by zero allies in the middle east. I'd hate to see London or Paris vaporized, now DC on the other hand .......

[hecticskeptic]

How long has the Islam religion been around…

Not to quibble but it is not a religion…. It is a demonic oligarchy/dictatorship political system that dangles a sex-death cult that is all about power.

[smokingfrog]

They would like you to believe that, but it is a lie.

[matt1234]

More evidence that islam is more a political system: the caliphs, especially in the early days, were determined by assassination and open warfare. Different rivals fought it out. Even today, the leader of Isis, the self declared caliphate, is a warlord, not a holy man. What other religion chooses its leader in these ways? None that I know of.

[griffin]

Jack Hibbs
Revival of the Islamic State

https://m.youtube.com/wGibbsv=dYtTPBUfYSo

[DocRock]

The Lord said two unique things regarding Amalek in the Bible. Never forget him and He will wage war with him from generation to generation. Deuteronomy 25:17-19.

So what does Islam have to do with Amalek? If you study why the Lord says don’t forget him and He will wage war against him, it is because he laid in wait and attacked the hindmost part of the Israelites. The armies would lead a nation as they moved across land and the weak, the women, children, sick and lame would bring up the rear...the hindmost. Amalek attacked the rear of the guard and crossed a line in the sand with God. He was the first terrorist. He attacked the defenseless without mercy.

This is why God told King Saul to go down and utterly destroy the Amalakites. Every man, woman and child as well as their animals. He didn’t and Saul lost the Kingdom which was given to King David. Also, it was an Amalakite that killed Saul.

We had our hindmost attacked on Sept. 11, 2001 when innocent, non-combatats were slaughtered. The same in Paris. These Muslims may have a different name, but to God they are Amalakites and we are told to never forget them and that He will wage war with them from generation to generation. We will do well to read and obey the Word of the Lord and realize, Islam is the death cult we can never make peace with and they will never make peace with us.

[amorphous]

I see. So it's been tried - apparently many times before and it's well known throughout history that it always fails?

The Islam Caliph was really hammered in the early years of the 20th century with the fall of the ottoman empire. In its last gasps, it still managed to slaughter upwards of a million Armenian Christians.

Currently Islam is growing exponentially. The largest population of Muslims is in Indonesia. Muslims have like a 10 to 1 birthrate when compared to non-muslim nations.

[Chgogal]

Yes, it would be better to let the believers in Allah to peacefully line in their own lands. Unfortunately, anywhere where Muslim lands touch a non-Muslim land there is blood being spilled. See the map further down in this Daily Mail link.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3322308/Number-people-killed-terrorists-worldwide-soars-80-just-year.html

Why does Obama insist on bringing America's enemy inside her borders? Ben Stein like me believes that Obama strongly hates America.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3361699/posts

Obama has no magic to do anything useful. When previous groups immigrated to the US they assimilated. Muslims do not assimilate they force infidels to assimilate to them. Simple observation, there aren't any churches being built in Saudi Arabia.

[BeauBo]

"I wonder about is his obsession with homosexuality. Muslims normally want homosexuals killed."

Under Sharia, before boys grow pubic hair, they don't count as men, and sex with them is permitted.

Muhammad established this rule, to mollify some of his recruits who preferred this (all the heterosexuals were getting to rape the female slaves they were taking as a reward).

Ever since, boys for sexual use by men has been a significant part of the muslim slave trade within the muslim world - and muslims have been the dominant force in the global slave trade for almost their whole 1,400 years. Most of the slaves sent to New World were purchased at muslim slave markets on the coast of Africa.

Pederasty (male homosexual pedophilia) remains widespread in islamic areas today which is why Michael Jackson fled to Bahrain for a while, to a pleasure palace with lots of boys. If you have a strong stomach, you can look up Bacha Bazi (boy play), still popular in Afghanistan and Central Asia. My understanding is that in practice, homosexuality is more widespread among muslims than we are accustomed to (especially pederasty), but is undercover.

[caww]

I’d have a difficult time listening to someone who is a guest of Jim Baker....nough said.

[hecticskeptic]

The only thing I wonder about is his obsession with homosexuality. Muslims normally want homosexuals killed.

Right.... at the same time as they are more involved with homosexual acts than any race on the planet. And worse, these involve the rape of young boys......

[HandyDandy]

Why is Obama insisting on bringing them here? Against our will, I might add?

My own theory on this is that spreading Islamists around the globe is to help "level the playing field" in preparation for the NWO. Zero's bosses are commanding him to "get it done". Diversity will evolve into homogeneity. America is the single biggest obstacle to NWO. The sooner it is overrun by any and all immigrants, the better. It's all connected. The rainbow coalition, OWS, BLM, Acorn, CAIR, UN, black liberation theology, erasing America's unique heritage (confederate flag, etc). Transformation and change (in preparation for our take-down).

[Chgogal]

FYI - must read.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/obama-and-the-churches-of-saudi-arabia-116526/

Saudi Arabia is the only state in the world to ban all churches and any other non-Muslim houses of worship. While Saudi nationals are all “officially” Muslim, some two to three million foreign Christians live in the kingdom, many for decades. They have no rights to practice their faith.
Obama and the Churches of Saudi Arabia - The Christian Post

[WalterSkinner]

..Muhammad was a demoniac and Islam will eventually be destroyed—along with every false christ and false religion. But no peace until the Prince of Peace comes...

[BeauBo]

islam is a totalitarian political movement, that co-opted and twisted religion to support the absolute authority of a ruthless cult leader, who wanted to be a dictator.

[21twelve]

I rank Mohammad up there with Joseph Smith and L. Ron Hubbard. A made up religion to gain power, wealth and women.

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

Mat 6:24
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Mammon would be Allah a False god IMO

Luk 16:13
No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

It was told us twice !

To servant and man alike

[Cold Heat]

Hmmm.......I doubt they would agree in public, but in private with no record of it....maybe some..

[amorphous]

But no peace until the Prince of Peace comes...

Yep, that's the real kicker. We can fight it and "hold on" but according to prophecy, we're going to need Divine intervention in the end. Which makes me think the hour is later than it seems and things will start snowballing soon, if they haven't started already.