Brass tacks discussion on Islam

[Jim Robinson]

Ok, let's get down to brass tacks.

How long has the Islam religion been around and have they always been so hateful and violent (like so many of them are today)?

I believe they claim to be direct descendants of Abraham but I also believe that Abraham was a favorite of our one true Judeo-Christian God, and was the father or grandfather of the Jewish and Christian religions.

I have a hard time believing that our loving Judeo-Christian God is also the Islam God, Allah, whose Muslim followers seem to be so misplaced.

Haven't the warlike Muslim tribes fanned out and violently conquered every nation in their 1400 year path of conquest?

Did God command them to conquer and dominate the entire world? Did he command them to demand infidels to submit, convert or die?

Who and what are these people and who is Allah?

This Muslim violence seems to have been going on worldwide for at least 1400 years.

Could it be that Islam IS the enemy (despite Obama's many denials)?

[nopardons]

Supposedly, Mohammed wrote the Koran. Since he was an illiterate lunatic, he probably had someone else write it all, down for him.

The Hadith ( which is different from the Koran; it is just "holy" words that Mohammed spoke...supposedly ) is where Sharia Law comes from. Unlike the Ten Commandments, which ALL Jews and Christians believe and try to live by, Sharia Law varies from Muslim community to community. The African Muslims perform "Pharonic circumcision" on girls; yet Arabs don't.

[mkjessup]

Allah is not the God of Abraham?

Good Morning Jim, The name 'allah' does not even appear anywhere in Scripture, 'allah' is actually the name of a pagan moon god that was worshiped in pre-Biblical times in what is now known as Saudi Arabia. As I recall reading, Abraham once lived in that region, and was in fact a former worshiper of that same moon god before Almighty God (YHWH) spoke to him and called him out from that set of false beliefs.

As for Islam, for a person to become a Muslim, they must deny the Deity of Jesus Christ, for Islam teaches that Jesus was indeed a minor prophet of God, however they deny that He was crucified and they believe that He died a natural death, like any man.

Islam also teaches that when Mohammed returns, that Jesus will return with him, to assist Mighty Mo in destroying the enemies of 'allah'. It is an unmitigated twisting of Biblical prophecy and blasphemes Christ without shame.

A simple comparison of the life of Jesus, and the life of Mohammed will reveal the vast difference between the Man and the man, and their teachings. Christianity is NOT a barbaric, violent religion, it stands upon one thing and one thing alone, which is the absolute Truth which is Jesus Christ, Who is the only path of Salvation, and we are saved by faith and faith alone, contrasted with Islam, which teaches not only perversion, murder and violence, but teaches that man can be saved by good works alone, which is a lie straight from Hell.

[jpsb]

Green is muslim

The battle of Vienna which stopped Islamic expansion took place in 1683, that was in Austria, central Europe! I say we are losing this 1400 year long war.

[Jim Robinson]

I see. So it’s been tried — apparently many times before — and it’s well known throughout history that it always fails?

Mighten it be better to just let the believers in Allah to peacefully live in their own lands?

Why is Obama insisting on bringing them here? Against our will, I might add?

Does Obama have some magic about him that can force it work? Which group has to be forced to submit to the other? It looks to be almost impossible to get one group or the other to voluntarily give up there belief system or culture?

[amorphous]

Jim, this book opened my eyes to history and goals of Islam:

It's free if you have kindle unlimited. IIRC, 3-4 bucks if you don't.

There are a number of websites and other sources of information about the true nature of Islam. It is much worse than Nazism, Fascism, or even Communism, as you will discover once you do your own research. Most people, 99%, don't know its true nature, history, goals, and etc. That's why its followers get away with what they do.

I see someone sent you a link to a very good video about its history. I highly recommend it as well - it's only about 45 minutes long and will give you a really good start to understanding its history and goals.

Dr. Bill Warner's website, the person who gave the siminar in the video you were linked to: http://www.politicalislam.com/. Much good information on his site.

Standing by, ready to assist in furthering dissemination of the truth about Islam and in opposition to the billions spent promoting it.

God bless.

[Jim Robinson]

Now that would create quite a problem wouldn’t you say?

I wonder if Obama is aware of this?

[Jim Robinson]

Does Obama know this?

[Jim Robinson]

Does Obama believe like these people?

[nopardons]

Of course he is...why do you think he wants to destroy this nation?

[Jim Robinson]

I can see how that is probably so. Why does our president insist that Muslims can live peacefully within our society without their foreign belief systems and alien Sharia law in place? Or does he expect our systems and theirs to be the rule of law at the same time?

[RedHeeler]

Well, friends are nice, supposedly. If you live, where you meet liars- you are a liar. These are your friends, right?

[amorphous]

Can a nation long survive with two diametrically opposed rules of law and justice systems at the same time?

Can a house divided stand?

Can you server two masters?

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[Mr. Jeeves]

I say it's getting very difficult to have an honest Internet discussion on the subject. Muslims, when called on facts, instantly start claiming that the scriptures quoted cannot be understood unless you are an imam; that the imam they choose is the actual authority, even if he says the scripture in question means something diametrically opposed to what it actually says; and that it's all Israel's fault, anyway.

Islam's adherents appear to have even less capacity for critical self-analysis than Black Lives Matter activists.

[P-Marlowe]

Islam is an evil death cult. There are two kinds of Muslims. Secular Muslims who don’t really believe any of the Koranic nonsense but claim to be Muslims so their families will not kill them, and fundamentalist muslims who will kill their family members if they stop being Muslims.

[rawcatslyentist]

It is the greatest threat to modernity, Christianity, and the future of the human race that has ever existed.

The Serpent lies, man dies.

It hasn't changed a bit since the garden. Lucy is insanely jealous of our Father's love for us, and has been attempting to destroy us ever since.

[Jim Robinson]

If Islam is totally incompatible with our constitution then why should we be expected to let them immigrate here? Isn’t our president required to protect and defend the constitution of the United States, so help me God? And which God applies (in Obama’s case)?

[Jim Robinson]

Uh, oh. That sounds ominous.

[Jim Robinson]

Ouch. Is Obama aware of that?

[caww]

That's an excellent link...and I agree with the writer's Psychological assessment of the Muslim mind which is “developed” by ‘all’ the elements he speaks of. Most Muslims are emotionally and mentally underdeveloped....though in their society this is the “norm”. ......

Their mental capacity to understand western ways and values will find no place in their minds and hearts saturated with hate, violence, abuse and indoctrination from infancy on both by the culture itself, which accepts such, and within the home.

In most cases whatever personality they were designed to have is ‘destroyed’ and replaced with the “cultish” thinking we so often observe and why it's almost impossible to reason with the average Muslim. Most of the Islamic fighters are childlike in every way......easily led, emotionally unstable for what they experience...and why drugs are “used” to ease the otherwise resemblance that might spark of a conscious..which is past just being seared.

I'll also add that if they attend Mosque, and go deeper into the Koran.....that will assuredly produce an inner trigger which could erupt in a given situation.

[doug from upland]

I vote we kill them first.