Posted on 07/12/2013 4:52:55 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
Today, July 12th, is DAY #24 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.
Yesterday the prosecution provide closing arguments (Summary: http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/states-closing-argument-two-hours-of-raising-doubt).
Today the defense attorney, Mark O’Mara will present his closing argument. Then the prosecution rebuttal.
(Excerpt) Read more at theconservativetreehouse.com ...
Stole my thunder.
I was going to say they’d need to limit selection to a few good FReepers and some folks from the tech forums at AR15.com.
If anything, this verifies my “peers” statement. ;-)
Yes. The manslaughter of a “child” makes it a high sentence, then add in the gun. Brings it to a total of 25, and I’ve heard 30 years. Might as well just make it life. But I suppose more chance for earlier release for good behaviour.
Praying for innocent verdict.
Of course he did. That is ALSO standard.
It doesn't take much digging to find lesser includeds are standard practice in FL murder cases. Hey even that 3rd degree BS technically could apply. If all eyes were't on this, it might have stayed in.
the most plausible thing to me is that M got home but discovered that he was locked out of the home. M allegedly did not have a key with him. So he doubled back in the general direction of the store. If so he was probably either just idly wandering around or casing neighboring homes. Either way, M probably became surprised when he saw Z walking across his field of vision without spotting him. At that point M would have been angry that he was still seeing Z apparently following him, and he was able to note Z’s height as at least 3” shorter than him. So M challenged him belligerently. Z was not entirely submissive to M in response, further enraging M. So M got closer and sucker punched Z.
From the gun control crowd point of view, neighborhood watch people should not have guns. Z also did not immediately run or dial 911 when confronted by M as the gun control people commonly seem to claim is usually an option.
[If a taller person confronts a shorter person, is it wise for the shorter person to run? I do not think so, because running does not buy the shorter person any advantage since the taller person can always catch up to the shorter person from behind. It puts the shorter person at a disadvantage because the taller person can hit or grab the shorter person from behind. The shorter person might be better off keeping the taller person always in his sight, even if it means walking backwards or staying put. Msybe someone can come up with the preferred scenario that the liberals prefer that someone in Z’s position could have followed.]
[What do the pro gun people say Z should have done presuming he had a gun? I have heard that they recommend not letting someone get too close. But M apparently moved too fast for Z and took him by surprise. Did Z commit a logistics error by not swiveling his neck and taking more note of his surroundings in the dark and rain?]
True.. this makes as much sense as any.
I always figured one of two things... either he HAD to go home first, to drop something off... or, Shanikwa finally goaded him into going back and picking a fight.
>> We only have 6 jurors, so that case does not apply. Now sit DOWN!
lol
OK your honor...
If there is an appeal, I would think that Z would definitely be found NOTGUILTY....because SOOOO many facts are coming out now about the real Treyvon...
And, I’m certain they like and believe Mark O’Mara.
AMEN!
AMEN to your thoughtful prayer.
He reminds me of that actor—Michael Chickless?(sp)
Good one. Thought the same thing.
“Saving it until he got home where the cough syrup was?”
Either that, or supposedly the candy was for Chad. But if that were true, he would have gone straight back home instead of what he actually did (loiter and wander around). The really unfair aspect of this trial is, if TM had been 18 or older, the evidence pointing to HIS character would have been presented to the jury. As it is, Saint Trayvon got special dispensation and treatment. What a difference a year makes.
“Did you notice Mr. Guy trying to use the SUBLIMINAL INFLUENCE TECHNIQUE on the Jury? He kept referring to the “T”, everything happened at the “T”, it all depends on the “T”.”
I hadn’t thought of that, but you are right.
I had never heard the thing at all until I read
STATE OF TENNESS EE v . DALE KEI TH LARK IN
I was actually in the jury pool for this case. We all did a 20 page questionnaire. I was not selected, but did follow the trial, to the extent that our sorry local media covered it
I was shocked at the guilty verdict, but was assured by someone with a connection to a juror that the jury got what they needed to convict.
The appellate court obviously disagreed.
Case 2.
i don’t have tv.
from reading, the jurors have
retired to deliberate, yes?
i am 85 miles north of Sanford -—
at this moment it is thundering and
lightening and heavy, heavy downpour
here.
if that continues, it should tend to keep
rioters indoors -— hard to start fires in
a torrential downpour!
i am trying to keep up -— for my
safety and family members elsewhere
(major liberal city -— SFO)
appreciate clear updates on the thread
(sometimes the shorthand used is confusing...nicknames, etc.)
thanks
kg/nancy
It was 7:30...You think the little one was sleeping? Especially if the skittles were for him?
the most plausible thing to me is that M got home but discovered that he was locked out of the home. M allegedly did not have a key with him. So he doubled back in the general direction of the store. If so he was probably either just idly wandering around or casing neighboring homes. Either way, M probably became surprised when he saw Z walking across his field of vision without spotting him. At that point M would have been angry that he was still seeing Z apparently following him, and he was able to note Z’s height as at least 3” shorter than him. So M challenged him belligerently. Z was not entirely submissive to M in response, further enraging M. So M got closer and sucker punched Z.
wtf tv going through jurors...
E6 seems to be the one that will keep him from being convicted
family has several guns. Bernie fought hard to get her off the jury.
She is the one that has been taking a lot of notes
I agree. There is so much doubt about so many things, it will be hard to convict.
Furthermore, I venture the jury will return a verdict quickly...hopefully by cocktail hour today.;-)
I don't know about you guys and gals, but I am exhausted.
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