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To: UCANSEE2

the most plausible thing to me is that M got home but discovered that he was locked out of the home. M allegedly did not have a key with him. So he doubled back in the general direction of the store. If so he was probably either just idly wandering around or casing neighboring homes. Either way, M probably became surprised when he saw Z walking across his field of vision without spotting him. At that point M would have been angry that he was still seeing Z apparently following him, and he was able to note Z’s height as at least 3” shorter than him. So M challenged him belligerently. Z was not entirely submissive to M in response, further enraging M. So M got closer and sucker punched Z.

From the gun control crowd point of view, neighborhood watch people should not have guns. Z also did not immediately run or dial 911 when confronted by M as the gun control people commonly seem to claim is usually an option.

[If a taller person confronts a shorter person, is it wise for the shorter person to run? I do not think so, because running does not buy the shorter person any advantage since the taller person can always catch up to the shorter person from behind. It puts the shorter person at a disadvantage because the taller person can hit or grab the shorter person from behind. The shorter person might be better off keeping the taller person always in his sight, even if it means walking backwards or staying put. Msybe someone can come up with the preferred scenario that the liberals prefer that someone in Z’s position could have followed.]

[What do the pro gun people say Z should have done presuming he had a gun? I have heard that they recommend not letting someone get too close. But M apparently moved too fast for Z and took him by surprise. Did Z commit a logistics error by not swiveling his neck and taking more note of his surroundings in the dark and rain?]


2,164 posted on 07/12/2013 11:45:04 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SteveH
No evidence!!

It was 7:30...You think the little one was sleeping? Especially if the skittles were for him?

2,177 posted on 07/12/2013 11:48:15 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SteveH

the most plausible thing to me is that M got home but discovered that he was locked out of the home. M allegedly did not have a key with him. So he doubled back in the general direction of the store. If so he was probably either just idly wandering around or casing neighboring homes. Either way, M probably became surprised when he saw Z walking across his field of vision without spotting him. At that point M would have been angry that he was still seeing Z apparently following him, and he was able to note Z’s height as at least 3” shorter than him. So M challenged him belligerently. Z was not entirely submissive to M in response, further enraging M. So M got closer and sucker punched Z.


I don’t see how the evidence supports that over him approaching Z completely by surprise


2,178 posted on 07/12/2013 11:48:18 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: SteveH

“the most plausible thing to me is that M got home but discovered that he was locked out of the home....”
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His father’s girlfriend’s son was at home.


2,181 posted on 07/12/2013 11:49:56 AM PDT by House Atreides ( D)
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