Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Scientists Back Off of Ardi Claims (Evos give climate-hoaxers a run for their money...LOL!)
ICR News ^ | December 4, 2009 | Brian Thomas, M.S.

Posted on 12/04/2009 8:07:39 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

In May 2009, a remarkably well-preserved extinct primate, nicknamed “Ida,” was hailed as one of the most important fossil finds ever. It had features that some interpreted as a link between two primate body forms. At the time, ICR News suggested that its evolutionary significance was far overblown, predicting that the scientific consensus would offer retractions. Those retractions came three months later, confirming that the fossil―called Darwinius―was really just an extinct lemur variety...

(Excerpt) Read more at icr.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: New York; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: absolutenonsense; anobsoletetheory; anthropology; antiscience; ardi; ardipithecus; baptist; belongsinreligion; bovinescat; bs; btmspussout; carboncretins; catastrophism; catholic; christian; christianity; christianright; churchofdarwin; climatechange; corruption; creation; creationdeniers; crevolist; cruminals; darwin; darwinius; darwinliedpeopledied; darwinsfantasy; devolution; embarrasschristians; evangelical; evilution; evoisnotscience; evolution; forrestisstoopid; fossilrecord; fossils; genesis; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; globalwhoring; godlessgunlessgutles; godsgravesglyphs; ida; idafraud; intelligentdesign; judaism; lemur; lucy; lutheran; lyingggeologist; manmonkeymyth; moralabsolutes; motleycru; notasciencetopic; origins; paleontology; propellerbeanie; protestant; ragingyechardon; religiousbigotry; religiousright; science; secularmythology; spammer
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 321-340341-360361-380 ... 661-666 next last
To: metmom
Perhaps just simply starting with TEACHING would be a good place to start.

Behe, your ID hero, stated under oath that the Intelligent Designer (God for the uninformed) is most probably dead and that school children should be taught that he was most probably dead since there was no evidence of his existence in the last few hundred million years.

341 posted on 12/04/2009 11:53:35 AM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 337 | View Replies]

To: ColdWater
In your continued attempts at historical revision, you missed the actual point made.

Muslims also believe in a Jesus that was a great moral teacher...This belief does not, however, make them Christians.

A Jesus who is not the Messiah and who is not the miracle-working Son of God is not the Jesus of the Bible and not the Jesus of the Christian faith.

Jefferson was a self-declared materialist who believed, unfortunately, only in a (false) moral-teaching Jesus.

342 posted on 12/04/2009 11:53:39 AM PST by pby
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 329 | View Replies]

To: metmom

I’d call gub’mnt schools the cultural suicide of lowered expectations. I play on L. Elders soft racism . . .


343 posted on 12/04/2009 11:54:28 AM PST by TooFarGone (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 337 | View Replies]

To: Moonman62
When you find the Periodic Table, the Fine Structure Constant, the permeability of free space, or anything similar in the Bible, then let me know.

I cannot even find evidence of the creation of the planets. Even the moon is described (falsely) as a source of light.

344 posted on 12/04/2009 11:56:13 AM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 340 | View Replies]

To: Gordon Greene; GodGunsGuts; metmom
I don't know how one could top the intellect that produced this:

“Regardless of whether or not JR sanctions your lies..
They are still lies.” xcamel.

345 posted on 12/04/2009 11:56:36 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 326 | View Replies]

To: pby
In your continued attempts at historical revision, you missed the actual point made. Muslims also believe in a Jesus that was a great moral teacher...This belief does not, however, make them Christians. A Jesus who is not the Messiah and who is not the miracle-working Son of God is not the Jesus of the Bible and not the Jesus of the Christian faith. Jefferson was a self-declared materialist who believed, unfortunately, only in a (false) moral-teaching Jesus.

Are you saying that there is no difference between Thomas Jefferson and a muslim?

346 posted on 12/04/2009 11:57:46 AM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 342 | View Replies]

To: ColdWater
Where in the bible does it say he rose again 3 days later?

Among other places, I Corinthians 15:

1 Now I am reminding you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you indeed received and in which you also stand.

2 Through it you are also being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you, unless you believed in vain.

3 For I handed on to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures;

4 that he was buried; that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the scriptures;

347 posted on 12/04/2009 11:58:46 AM PST by pby
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 320 | View Replies]

To: pby
in accordance with the scriptures

Which scriptures?

348 posted on 12/04/2009 12:00:47 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 347 | View Replies]

To: count-your-change

Only someone like ‘count-your-change’ who is so devoid of valid arguments they they can only resort to infantile ad hominem attacks...


349 posted on 12/04/2009 12:00:50 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 345 | View Replies]

To: TooFarGone
But if a scientist attempted to move an idea forward based on a scientifically discredited piece of date (whether silently or publicly announced) his/her idea would be uncovered as based on refuted evidence.

Theoretically, yes, but in practice there can be and has been, shall we say, a bit of a time lag involved there.

That’s my question exactly-what reasoning? It’s assumed a priori to already be false based on a belief system that is incompatible( mostly-there is the ‘god designed evolution’ school) with evolution.

The reasoning that the one who made everything told us how He did it.

He made man from the dust of the earth. He did not say that He used other animals.

Therefore, there will never be a transitional fossil found that will definitively link mankind to the animal kingdom in a way that would support that man evolved from animals.

Of course there are similarities, but that would stem from the fact that we inhabit the same world, eat the same food, breathe the same air, etc. Not to mention that the DNA code that works for controlling, say , the eye, would reasonably be similar for all creatures.

But the similarities in DNA would reflect more the use of the similar code for controlling similar functions, rather than the interpretation that they evolved from each other.

IOW, it's more a matter of common design, rather than common descent.

350 posted on 12/04/2009 12:03:12 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 336 | View Replies]

To: TooFarGone

Speaking of cultural suicide, have you seen this?

BREAKING: Obama’s “Safe Schools Czar” Is Promoting Child Porn in the Classroom
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2400328/posts


351 posted on 12/04/2009 12:05:11 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 343 | View Replies]

To: pby

pby, I suspect CW is nought but a muslim or atheist (No, no! really (he says) I am a Christian, I just don’t believe what the Bible says, nor in Jesus) who gets pleasure at trying to nit pick and degrade a persons Faith.

As such he really is irrelevant and perhaps should be ignored in these boards (along with others of his ilk).


352 posted on 12/04/2009 12:05:34 PM PST by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 347 | View Replies]

To: tnlibertarian
==I was simply literally interpreting the text of the quote. Something you should be familiar with.

A common fallacy amongst evos. Biblical creationists hold to the traditional approach to interpreting scripture, the historical-grammatical method, which is specifically employed to arrive at original intent. Even most old earth creationists use this method to interpret the Bible...that is, they apply it to most every book of the Bible except Genesis. In that case, they prefer to defer to the opinions of mere mortals (so long as they are wearing white lab coats).

353 posted on 12/04/2009 12:10:01 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 295 | View Replies]

To: ColdWater
Are you saying that there is no difference between Thomas Jefferson and a muslim?

Nope.

And...I assume that you know that I am not and are asking the silly question as part of an ill-conceived debate point.

The point made was that believing that Jesus was a great moral teacher does not make one a Christian.

(Of course, folks who believe that Jesus was just a great moral teacher have to figure out how to explain that this alleged great moral teacher identifies Himself as the eternal God, Messiah and Creator. Is He really a great moral teacher if he incorrectly identifies Himself as something that He is not? Do great moral teachers lie as they teach? Are great moral teachers crazy?)

354 posted on 12/04/2009 12:10:27 PM PST by pby
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 346 | View Replies]

To: ColdWater; GodGunsGuts

“I had my doubts about that Jonah and the whale story but when my church told me that men had one less rib than women because God created women from man’s rib I knew it was a bunch of malarky.”

I would consider it fairly ignorant to take one man’s un-scientific postulations on the scripture and throw my eternal salvation down the crapper.

Would you do that because of the views of a few flaky scientists? OH wait... you did! Sorry I asked.

If you ever want to come back around, we’ll talk.

It is seriously a shame. Would you assume that because Jim Jones talked a bunch of lemmings into suicide that all religious leaders hold Jim Jones views and are bound to offer them cyanide-laced Kool-Aid? That’s not thinking like a scientist, CW. That’s thinking like a school-boy. Surely you’re capable of better.


355 posted on 12/04/2009 12:13:26 PM PST by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - I have a theory about how Darwin evolved... more soon.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 328 | View Replies]

To: count-your-change

“I don’t know how one could top the intellect that produced this:
“Regardless of whether or not JR sanctions your lies..
They are still lies.” xcamel.”

Heresy, I tell you! HERESY!

Of course, I love me some Heresy’s chocolate milk now and again.


356 posted on 12/04/2009 12:14:44 PM PST by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - I have a theory about how Darwin evolved... more soon.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 345 | View Replies]

To: GodGunsGuts

If you hold your hands up long enough, or type louder, someone somewhere might eventually believe you...


357 posted on 12/04/2009 12:16:16 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 353 | View Replies]

To: metmom
If you're waiting for some explanation for the accusations of “lies” etc., you'll probably have time.
358 posted on 12/04/2009 12:16:32 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 334 | View Replies]

To: RoadGumby
I suspect CW is nought but a muslim

You are sick.

359 posted on 12/04/2009 12:22:39 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 352 | View Replies]

To: Gordon Greene; ColdWater

So your position is that the direct admonition of “beleveth in him” is not enough, eh? You insist on adding “beleveth in the bible” - Sorry, I never read that anywhere...


360 posted on 12/04/2009 12:22:45 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 355 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 321-340341-360361-380 ... 661-666 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson