Posted on 02/05/2009 7:52:01 PM PST by MindBender26
Obama Born In The U.S. ? New Facts Say; “Probably Not!”
Let me be the first to admit that I have been a constant debunker of the “Obama Born Overseas” stories. How could it be possible? How could the DNC, Hillary, Edwards, the RNC, McCain, Romney, AP, BBC, ABC, FNC, etc, (and every 100th listing in the DC phone book) not have checked this out to its last level of possibility?
Well, it appears that they didn’t! Everyone assumed “the other guy did it.”
Forget for the moment all the clues left by the high-priced Obama and DNC legal teams. They are huge.
Obama and the DNC always argue “standing.” They could eliminate every legal challenge in 5 minutes by simply producing a certified copy of the original long-form birth certificate. Throw in the testimony of the Hawaii Registrar of Documents, a few retired FBI chief document examiners, and the doctor who delivered him for good measure.
If they did that in two or three courts of record, in light of the obvious media coverage it would receive, every other court nationwide would accept the precedence and the cases would all be over.
But they don’t. They keep telling the courts, “please don’t hear this case.” No proof of any kind. Just the legalese argument that the plaintiffs have no standing before that court.
That’s so overreaching, it’s like buying a refinery to get a 3000 mile oil change! And one day, some court is going to say…. “Show me the money, er,. ah, I mean, Show me the documents!”
But there is a second, and perhaps new point!
Where is that doctor who delivered him, or the midwife?
Stop and think. The delivery of a half Negro – half Caucasian baby was rare anyhere in 1961. Oriental babies were common in Hawaii of course, but a half Negro-half Caucasian baby with the funny name of Barrack Obama, in Hawaii? In 1961?
Even of you were a Republican, if you delivered a future President of the United States, wouldn’t you call some newspaper somewhere with your story. Or if you were the assistant obstetrician, or the anesthesiologist, or the scrub nurse?
What about the circulating nurse, or the pediatrician, one of a dozen nurses on the 24 hour-a-day shifts in the nursery, one of many nurses on the ward where Mrs. Obama would have stayed for three days, a records registrar, a technician of any kind, hell, even the janitor!
What about the clerks, ambulance drivers….. somebody ?!?!?!
Anybody ?!?!?!
Wouldn’t someone have been yelling their “credit” for this from the rooftops???? The date when he was born is (supposedly) known. Certainly all these (supposed) people would know where they were working then!
Where is somebody, anybody, who was there or even remembers the birth?
Sherlock Holmes once solved a case by noticing the dog that DID NOT bark.
Is this the same situation?
Hey, it’s easier than thinking for yourself, and actually trying to determine what is true. Go for it.
That nationality shall not be lost by any person under this section as the result of the naturalization of a parent or parents while such person is under the age of twenty-one years, or as the result of naturalization obtained on behalf of a person under twenty-one years of age by a parent, guardian,
Just in case your reading comprehension is so bad you can't understand the above, it means a person under 21 cannot lose his citizenship because his parents naturalize him in a foriegn country.
If you still, oh reading-challanged one, claim Bambi could have lost his citizenship while he was in Indonesia, please cite the specific provision of immigration law under which it would have happened.
And as you also know because it has been pointed out many times, the quote from the congressman is not the law.
He wrote the 14th Amendment. Bingham spoke of the intent and meaning behind his words. His words are in the U.S. Constitution. The 14th Amendment is law. Capeesh.
We know what is true but thanks for your: Alinsky-Obama methods. Buh bye.
No, it's because Obama has something to hide. He's also dishonest.
No question about that.
Ah, yes. The old legislative history argument. I wonder what Justice Scalia would say about the above...
The court very thoroughly and explicitly explained its reasoning based on legal history for finding that a person born in the US is a natural born citizen.
"He wrote the 14th Amendment. Bingham spoke of the intent and meaning behind his words. His words are in the U.S. Constitution. The 14th Amendment is law. Capeesh."
He was one person involved in writing a part of the 14th ammendment. He doesn't decide post facto what the ammendment means. Its words decide that, and court interpretations decide that. Speeches he gave later mean nothing at all. The only reason anyone even tries to pass that off is because it seems to say what they want to hear. That's not the way things work.
I’m pretty sure I know who you mean...LOL! (Is that right?)
You don't know what is true. You don't care. You know what you want to believe.
BTW, doesn't Alinsky say something about attacking the messenger instead of engaging on the facts? Hmmmm. Who is really using "Alinksy methods"?
How fast did McCain show his birth certificate? Within about 2 days. McCain had nothing to hide even after the New York and Los Angeles Times questioned his NBC status in articles.
See the difference? One with honest character the other with questionable character. Understand?
Where did McCain show his? Who did he give it to?
But that's a seperate question from whether he is a natural born citizen, of which there is no reasonable doubt.
And FYI, McCain didn't show his BC to any court, either.
Sorry I do not respond to your: Alinsy-Obama double talk.
It's the meaning and intent behind the words that provide laws for what they are. In any case, you haven't even come close to making a convincing argument.
Speeches he gave later mean nothing at all
That quote from Bingham above that you should have noticed was said on March 9, 1866. When was the 14th Amendment first introduced and ratified?
Correct, but no one questioned it's validity either, and no one had a reason to.
Calling Justice Scalia! Calling Justice Scalia! Code red! Someone is using a legislative history argument! Code red!
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