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To: mlo
The only thing I've see you provide is dictum in cases not anything that ends the NBC question.

And as you also know because it has been pointed out many times, the quote from the congressman is not the law.

He wrote the 14th Amendment. Bingham spoke of the intent and meaning behind his words. His words are in the U.S. Constitution. The 14th Amendment is law. Capeesh.

963 posted on 02/07/2009 9:21:50 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel; mlo
He wrote the 14th Amendment. Bingham spoke of the intent and meaning behind his words. His words are in the U.S. Constitution. The 14th Amendment is law.

Ah, yes. The old legislative history argument. I wonder what Justice Scalia would say about the above...

969 posted on 02/07/2009 9:27:32 PM PST by curiosity
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To: Red Steel
"The only thing I've see you provide is dictum in cases not anything that ends the NBC question."

The court very thoroughly and explicitly explained its reasoning based on legal history for finding that a person born in the US is a natural born citizen.

"He wrote the 14th Amendment. Bingham spoke of the intent and meaning behind his words. His words are in the U.S. Constitution. The 14th Amendment is law. Capeesh."

He was one person involved in writing a part of the 14th ammendment. He doesn't decide post facto what the ammendment means. Its words decide that, and court interpretations decide that. Speeches he gave later mean nothing at all. The only reason anyone even tries to pass that off is because it seems to say what they want to hear. That's not the way things work.

970 posted on 02/07/2009 9:29:55 PM PST by mlo
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To: Red Steel
He wrote the 14th Amendment. Bingham spoke of the intent and meaning behind his words. His words are in the U.S. Constitution. The 14th Amendment is law.

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside" are NOT Bingham's words.


1,016 posted on 02/07/2009 10:45:55 PM PST by Michael Michael
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To: Red Steel

The problem we face is trying to deal with folks who are of a “it depends on what the meaning of ‘is’ is” turn of mind. Common sense goes right out the window.


1,077 posted on 02/08/2009 5:26:54 AM PST by Scanian
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