Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom
Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.
The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.
The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.
Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.
McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.
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http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/05/1521/#comment-5921
JP49 // August 7, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Barack tells us his mother spent 72 hours immediately prior to his birth, in Kenya, and then returned to have him.
Snip from a long comment. We have to track this down.
Pinging for an update.
Thanks, RR.
No, and my champagne is still corked
Lolo was a student in Hawaii. He worked for an oil company in Indonesia, was called back to Indonesia when nationals were required to return by the new government. IIRC he was a geologist. Obama snr was also a foreign student...I doubt he worked anywhere...
Stanley Dunham worked on oil rigs during the depression...he must have been very young then.
It is a bit surreal. Here’s how I think this crazy plot came to be.
Obama’s team kept getting hammered about the rumors that he wasn’t born in America. They approached him, and he told them that he couldn’t find his birth certificate. He remembered what it said, but he didn’t have the original. Then he says, “Oh, and here’s a copy of my sister’s birth certificate, isn’t there something we could do with a computer image and just change the name? It’s not like I was born in a manger in Bethlehem, hah hah hah.” So his dutiful minions set out to create a birth certificate that has all the right information according to what they’d been told (after all, they can trust Obama) and they put it up with a minimum of fuss and pizazz on the website, within minutes of it actually being manipulated on the computer (this part is established by the date the Kos & StopTheSmears files were saved and then posted onto their respective websites). Basically, Obama lied to his closest supporters, thinking he could get away with it. And if it doesn’t work, he throws them under the bus. Standard operating procedure for democrats these days.
Yes, I went to www.honolulupropertyassessor.com and Clicked on Property Assessors Tab I can't remember the address now so can't bring up the information. If I recall it only showed owners for the last few years. I did assume that it was probably Obama's grandparents house at that time.
Oh???????
Obama characterizes him, generally, as a loser, and yet he's the one (in the book, at least) who introduced Obama to what little there was of black "culture" in Honolulu -- taking an 11-12 year old to a bar frequented by hookers in the "red-light district," as well as taking him along to visits with Frank Davis. Stanley's also the one, according to O, who was so upset when Madelyn told him the story of the threatening black panhandler at the bus stop (for which she got thrown under the bus by Obama in his now-forgettable speech about race).
Stanley's a disturbing character -- he found his mother dead of suicide when he was eight, was known as tough guy in Kansas, marched across Europe with Patton's army without ever seeing battle in WWII (could any soldier have actually done that?), didn't seem able to settle down in one place for long until they reached Hawaii, and comes across as a white man obsessed with race, but totally devoted to his bi-racial grandson, who generally dismisses/ridicules him -- in the world according to Obama.
Stanley and Madelyn Dunham lived in “a modest wooden house on University Avenue near Kamanele Park”(The Honolulu Advertiser as linked above) near the University of Hawaii at Manoa before moving to a Beretania St. apartment where Barack lived with them and where Madelyn lives to this day. All the addresses are within close proximity of the University with the exception of the address listed on the ‘birth announcement’.
Thank ye
Interesting. In 1961 I tried to fly from Kansas City to Dallas when I was eight months pregnant with our first son. The airline (cannot remember which one) would not allow me to board. We wound up driving to Wichita Falls (Lackland AFB) where my son was born.
The address listed in the ‘birth announcement’ is 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy. and the house there is definitely more than a “modest wooden house” and far from University Ave. even if it was built in the 1940’s as per an earlier post.
well, I meant has anyone read that statement in either of his books?
Hmmmmmmmm. Why would he have Kenyan citizenship in ‘63 if he did not have Brit colonial citizenship in 1961????
http://www.nationmedia.com/eastafrican/08112004/Features/PA2-081120046.html
A month. That’s how long we would have together, the five of us in my grandparents’ living room most evenings, during the day on drives around the island or on short walks past the private landmarks of a family: the lot where my father’s apartment had once stood; the remodelled hospital where I had been born; my grandparents’ first house in Hawaii, before the one on University Avenue, a house I had never known.
Adding to what you posted.
“if there is not an issue why toss up details about time spent in Kenya? Barack tells us his mother spent 72 hours immediately prior to his birth, in Kenya, and then returned to have him.
Now I have done reasearch and am a bit of an aviation buff. I went back to see just what aircraft were available and when, in order to fly someone to Kenya, in 1961, and then back again within 3 days. Not even going over the fact that today and even MORE SO in the past - a 9 months pregnant woman would almost certainly be denied the ability to fly, especially a long flight, probably originating in Seattle (as the hints and records seem to imply), over the Pacific Ocean.
The DC8 or Boeing 707 was operational for its first flights in late 1958. Few companies flew the 4 engine jet through 1959 - and only the most profitable, highly travelled routes would be using this ULTRA expensive aircraft. No routes to any African country were considered high-traffic routes, with only a London - Johannesburg route being a moderate traffic route.
The flight WITH the jet would have taken, from Seattle, approximately 24 hours to complete, with refueling and passenger changes. But what is more likely is that Obama’s mother would have taken a 4 engine propeller plane - like the Pan Am Super Constellation - overseas - requiring as much as 32 hours to complete with stopovers, refueling, and passenger changes.
There is NO WAY A.) that she was allowed to fly at her stage of pregnancy, and B.) that she flew to Kenya, stayed about 6 hours, and then hopped on the plane back to Seattle, and then gave birth.
There is a reason for all of this - and for the MSM not even to look into it is a serious, and to me deliberate, oversight.”
From the texasdarling blog.
Ah. Not attributed or confirmed yet. It would certainly strengthen the ‘out of Africa’ theory, if true.
SO- if it’s been up for a couple of days- and the article has NOT been removed - or that sentence removed, with an apology to Obama...
Well we have missed you. I almost Pm'd you--the motherboard on my main work machine which has been quitting exactly the same way for the last several months--the local computer guy now figures out it is going to quit and then it did--although the documents are still alive, the tax programs I have downloaded all need to be reconstructed.
I do not mean to suggest some conspiratorial reason for the joint collapse--mine was very old.
Reason the published address will prove out to be important is because it will furnish a source of information. I suspect your speculation that it was the Dunham address is correct. And maybe no one was around that address in the relevant period.
But if Ann was not there until mid August and then showed up, that would be interesting--where was she before then. And you can search title on the adjoining or neighbor houses to look for witnesses who may have knowledge about where he was born. You only need to find one or two neighbors who have first hand knowledge to reconstruct the events around the birth and bring the house of cards down.
http://real-estate.nextag.com/propID_6255444/6085-Kalanianaole-Hwy/Honolulu/Hawaii/homes-html
Estimate: $755,135 (as of 04/14/2008) [What’s this?] A comfortable 5 bedroom, 2 bathroom single family home in Honolulu, Hawaii. This 1 story home, built in 1948, measures 1,888 sq ft on a 10,698 sq ft (0.25 acre) lot. NexTag estimates this Honolulu county home’s value to be $755,135.
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