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Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)
Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret

Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom

Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.

The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.

The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.

Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.

McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.

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To: ameagle
Susan Blake is careful to get the "1961" date right out first. The "August" reference comes out more naturally in the flow of her recollection. Cute.

A prepped witness?

And speaking of coming out more naturally, how is it that a few WEEKS after Obama is born that "Stanley" (Susan uses Stanley rather than Ann for Obama's mother's name) does not yet know how to change a diaper? I remember diapering my own kids one or two days after their birth.

1,881 posted on 07/06/2008 1:43:58 PM PDT by bvw
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To: WOSG
“In laid back 1961 Hawai’i, it must have been much easier.”

Make up your mind. Are you admitting he was born in Hawaii after all?

You can't possibly be that dense, you can't!

In 1961 Hawai'i, it must have been much easier to GET FALSE INACCURATE DOCUMENTS than it is now in ID theft prone post 9/11 America.

I'm beginning to seriously think you are playing stone dead stupid just to annoy me.

Passports are given by the Federal Govt, not local govt.

No kidding? Gosh I didn't know that. Let me match that with something you probably didn't know - the Federal Govt. uses STATE documents to establish the "facts" it uses to issue documents.

Let me walk you through this very slowly, as you have repeatedly demonstrated in great detail that reading comprehension is challenging for you.

Here is what I think happened:

I think BHO, Sr. and his new bride went to visit his parents in Kenya.

I think poor homely Stanley Ann intended to hop a plane back to Hawai'i to have Barry Jr born on US soil.

I know airlines would routinely refuse to let a near full term woman onto a long overseas flight for fear of emergency childbirth at altitude and far from the nearest landing strip. (Note that this was common practice IN THE 1960's and earlier)

I know that several relatives have reported that they were there when Barry Jr. was delivered in Kenya. (Note that a reasonable person would regard witness testimony as evidence).

I think Stanley Ann and Barry Jr were on the first flight they could get after he was born to take him back to Hawai'i.

I know infants (and children) could travel on their mother's passport IN 1961. (Note that despite your protestations that this is impossible, others on this very thread have come forward to say that they themselves did this very thing. Note also that NOW in a post 9/11 world it isn't possible)

I think that at that time babies-in-arms didn't even require their own ticket to fly.

I think Stanley Ann promptly attempted to establish the "little white lie" that the son she intended to deliver in Hawai'i was, in fact born in Hawai'i.

I know that the document posted on BHO's own web site has been called to question.

I know that State Department rules provide for missing birth certificates, I have given you not only the full text of the applicable rules, I have even provided the URL so you can see for yourself.

I know that with a certificate of no record and a DS-10A with the mother asserting a child was born in Podunk, Il, the State Department has sufficient documents to issue a passport. If the only two documents they have are a statement of no record of birth from Illinois, and a sworn statement from dear old mom that the kid was born in Podunk, Il, what do you suppose the State Department will put as his place of birth on his passport, hmmmmm?

I think that if Stanley Ann swore to a "little white lie" to get her son citizenship, she'd protect that "little white lie" by telling her son it was the truth.

I know Barry Jr. doesn't consciously remember being born, let alone where he was born. If he's been told all is life it was Honolulu, why should he doubt it? (Side bar - All my birth records and everything I've ever been told say I was born in one town, yet a few months ago I found that the Naval Hospital I was born in had its physical address across town limits in an adjacent town. The hospital's mailing address and physical address aren't the same. Have I been lying about my birthplace all these years? No. I reported the facts as I and my official records show them to be. )

I think Stanley Ann was ignorant of some of the finer points of law that we have been discussing on this thread and was afraid her little mulatto (there's a word nobody uses anymore!) baby born in a foreign country in an invalid due to bigamy marriage would be denied admission into the USofA.

I think Stanley Ann did all she could to insure the best she could for he little baby boy.

I think that included bending the truth of what happened to reflect what she had planned arraigning to happen. That is, delivering little Barry, Jr. back in Honolulu.

What I can't figure out is why you think it is unlikely, unreasonable, and impossible for Barry Sr. and his new bride to visit his parents before the child was born, rather that waiting until afterwards and having to schlep a baby and a ton of baby supplies all over creation.

Tell me what exactly is unreasonable about her wanting to meet the folks, and him wanting to show off the new little lady to his old friends and extended family?

Let's give the guy some props here! He could have just as easily dumped Stanley Ann. He did the honorable thing, he married her. He took her home to meet mom and dad.

1,882 posted on 07/06/2008 1:47:24 PM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can differentiate, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians - OBL)
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To: All

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/07/atlas-tech-expe.html


1,883 posted on 07/06/2008 1:48:09 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: WOSG

Sure, why not? What do you know about it?


1,884 posted on 07/06/2008 1:49:15 PM PDT by OldEagle
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To: WOSG
If not, Hillary’s minions would have used it.

When her surrogates do will you finally sit down?

1,885 posted on 07/06/2008 1:52:17 PM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can differentiate, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians - OBL)
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To: muawiyah
Btw, Gerald Ford was never elected. He was a Republican, chose Nelson Rockefeller to serve as VP, then Dole as a running mate, but his mother was never a Communist radical cavorting with foreigners, as far as we can tell.

Oh, and he did lose to Jimmy Carter.

If there is a Martian Time Travel explanation for Obama's 57 states theory or esoteric monkey-god idol connection, we would like to hear it. What would a President appointed by the monkey god be like?

1,886 posted on 07/06/2008 1:52:19 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Cyropaedia
Sowell believes that his this is because they realized that it could have led to a discovery that he really didn't meet the Constitutional requirements for President.

Holy smokes! Thomas Sowell does not engage in wild speculation. Did you read this in one of his columns? Can you provide a cite?

1,887 posted on 07/06/2008 2:01:01 PM PDT by American Quilter (John McCain--today's Scoop Jackson democrat. He should change parties.)
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To: WOSG
I agree with you to an extent.

But, and if, and all the other stuff...still leaves us with unanswered questions. BHO may have the same questions for all we know and now he has no one to turn too for the honest answers. I don't think we will ever know if Ann went to Kenya in 1961 or stayed in Hawaii. As of right now, no verifiable evidence has been produced either way.

There were motives for Obama Sr. to return to Kenya in Spring of 1961 and if truly married Ann may have felt compelled herself to go (earlier post regarding this).

If in all the murkiness he has found a way to rise above it and run for the presidency that is quite an accomplishment, even if we don't agree with his marxist ideas. What now worries me is if the dysfunctionality is so ingrained, is he fit for office at all?

I came from a dysfunctional family and I understand there is a lot of junk in my bag. I've tried to deal with most of it and am finally able to recognize behaviors that arise in stressful situations. Can he?

1,889 posted on 07/06/2008 2:05:39 PM PDT by EBH ( ... the riotousness of the crowd is always very close to madness. --Alculin c.735-804)
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To: null and void

I thought W. was a Methodist.


1,890 posted on 07/06/2008 2:07:55 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: EBH

I find it much simpler than that, purely because of his own actions.

Obama got where he is mainly by relying on technicalities and dirty tricks (unsealing court documents) to eliminate his opponents. He has never played fair.

Wouldn’t it be the final word in natural justice if he himself were eliminated over a technicality?


1,891 posted on 07/06/2008 2:09:36 PM PDT by Nipfan
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To: SE Mom

Yikes, SE Mom! Curiouser and curiouser. I wonder if anyone from the media is keeping track of this thread. I’ll bet Obama’s campaign is.


1,892 posted on 07/06/2008 2:10:12 PM PDT by American Quilter (John McCain--today's Scoop Jackson democrat. He should change parties.)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

He was...


1,893 posted on 07/06/2008 2:10:40 PM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can differentiate, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians - OBL)
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To: American Quilter
"I’ll bet Obama’s campaign is."

Do you think any of them is posting?

1,894 posted on 07/06/2008 2:16:57 PM PDT by OldEagle
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To: null and void

Are any of these liberal Darwinists going to get upset about
the impending monkey-god idol theocracy? It’s not one they might of thought of before. And how does one oppose such a religious candidate whose religion keeps changing? Will his faith-based initiatives come from the Trinity United racial Manicheanism or this new monkey-god idol worship? Or yet something else entirely?


1,895 posted on 07/06/2008 2:17:02 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
The trick is that in the future Canadian provinces will be brought into the Union, yet Quebec will become an independent nation.

I think that adds up to 57 states and one monstrous territory in the far North.

The Hanumon trinket (called the monkey god) is his "key back to the future". Without it he will be stuck here for the rest of his life. You'd better believe he hangs onto that thing.

1,896 posted on 07/06/2008 2:20:47 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: Political Junkie Too; All
Must admit I haven't read the entire thread.

But is there a Hawaiian Freeper who might do a little legwork? In most jurisdictions birth notices are placed in the daily newspaper. Microfiche copies of old newspapers should be available at the library (or the newspaper itself).

If one can find the birth announcements for that week, his name will either be there or it will not. I'd guess we're talking about the formerly independently owned Honolulu Advertiser.

1,897 posted on 07/06/2008 2:21:19 PM PDT by Timeout
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To: Nipfan

It would be poetic. Still ... reality is reality and trumps human sense of the poetic at times.


1,898 posted on 07/06/2008 2:27:21 PM PDT by bvw
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To: muawiyah
Man, you're scaring me now.

Is this where the President and Cabinet members pull off rubber masks revealing lizard faces underneath?

1,899 posted on 07/06/2008 2:28:09 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

Probably - but I thought they’d already done that when the Carnival show Billzo brought to town took over.


1,900 posted on 07/06/2008 2:29:27 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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