that's BKO
Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom
Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.
The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.
The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.
Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.
McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.
(Excerpt) Read more at web.israelinsider.com ...
You really should ping her.
“To speak of the dead is to bring them to life” - Egyptian proverb
“It seems likely that his parents”
It seems likely that you can speculate quite well without a hair of evidence. His mother was never in Kenya. His Dad was in Hawaii. They met there, they lived there in Hawaii.
“It seems likely that his parents went to visit his dad’s parents for the summer, much cheaper to spend a summer in Kenya than the US even then,”
Yes, 18 year olds would fly halfway around the world on an expensive air ticket for a summer ... to save *money*. And to give birth to a son. After where do you come up with these laughable speculations... oh, and then after doing such a thing, you’d lie to your own son and fake records about where he was born for his entire life.
Obama had a socialist Dad, a hippie leftie Mom, a Communist Mentor, spent 20 years in front of Rev “God damn America” Wright, and has the most liberal yet hollow record of anyone in the Senate.... with all this, you want to go after this invented fairy tale? This is such laughable nonsense it must be trolls trying to spread this FUD.
“That means it is entirely possible that a” ... an army of monkeys will fly out of your butt after your next meal of bake beans and franks. You’ll never know until you try.
The "official" story is that the met at the University of Hawaii, where both were students.
that's BKO
I share the same concern. It is utter nonsense to suppose that Ann Dunham, poor Univ of Hawaii college drop-out, and Barack Obama Sr, attendee of same, would vacate their college situation and fly off somewhere just for the privilege of having a less-safe birth for their son and ensuring that he wont be eligible for the Presidency. So why this bizarre theory that Obama wasnt born where his Mom said he was?
Everyone keeps looking for a special twist in the plot. THERE IS NONE. This is just a rerun of the Jimmy Carter era, and the sequels are NEVER as good as the original.
We're working our fringers to the bone, can you please help us with this?
We honor you and miss you.
“What I fear is that by dropping false clues (Old enough to remember the “Paul is dead” mania?), the Obama campaign will let the opposition work themselves up into a frenzy and then release the original paper copy to paint all Obama opponents as tin-foil hatters.”
BINGO RINGO!
Keep your eye on the prize folks. Do NOT make assertions that are not proven to be true. Do NOT speculate, guess or assume. All are the ways of losing ones way.
LOL, missing a critical letter indeed!
Crumbs, null and void, I wish I were surrounded by wounderful folks like you.
Have a great evening.
My best regards.
1. A regular Certification of Birth says “Date Accepted By State Registrar” vs. Obama’s “Date Filed By Registrar”;
This is simply not true. I was born in Hawaii have a Hawaii "Certification of Live Birth" right before my very eyes and my copy says clear as day "DATE FILED BY REGISTRAR".
I've read that part of your comment several times now, and it seems to me you have a similar problem as does the Candidate. Does your document show a seal? Who, yourself or someone else, applied for it? Who supplied the information shown on the document to the Hawaii Department of Health?
Rather than proof of validity, you may have simply unearthed a skeleton in your own family closet...apologies in advance if I am wrong.
Obama's CoLB just has a black strip where that all important number should be. So it' still anyone's guess whether his CoLB is was ultimately accepted. Maybe it wasn't.
My two cents on post # 1512. ;>)
It basically is saying that the whole Israel Insider/No Quarters theory is wrong/irrelevent. McKinnon admits to nothing but joshing around...
Obama is still a natural-born American, news at 11.
“I believe that there is overwhelming evidence, which establishes beyond a reasonable doubt, that Senator Obama is a natural born US Citizen, and that he has acted in good faith to establish this fact. I have no evidence to contradict that belief, have not seen any, and do not believe any exists. I have been libeled by humorless fools trying to look clever on the internet.” - Jay McKinnon
The impression (seal) is on the back and is barely visible to the naked eye on the front of my copy. I applied for the duplicate myself.
How is this possibly a ‘frenzy’ when NOBODY in the MSM is discussing it, two months into it?
Ain’t nobody but a couple us ‘bloggers’ in here.
The drive-bys are in a quandary: they can’t quote or mention it as that would give it legs, but yet can’t ignore it, as it would be the biggest political bombshell in 50 years.
When you find evidence of any MSM activity denouncing or even mentioning this discussion, please post it.
And you accept some random person’s “number” as if you have checked it out yourself. How is that better than no number?
OBAMA HAS HAD PASSPORTS WITH HIS PLACE OF BIRTH STAMPED ON THEM FOR MUCH OF HIS LIFE.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/5/15947/95667/125/547039
Opendna: Is Senator Barack H. Obama a natural born US Citizen?
Jay McKinnon: Beyond a reasonable doubt.
The Senator’s travels as a child and young man required a passport. For over a century, US passports have included a field for place of birth. (Fact) To the best of my recollection, every passport I have ever seen (and they are legion) has included a field for place of birth. In order to enter Indonesia in 1967, young Barack Obama would have required a passport. We know from his kindergarten “essay” that young Barack was aware of his US citizenship while living in Indonesia.
In order to return to the United States in 1971 young Barack would have required a passport. At his entry he would have either been a US Citizen or an Alien. If he was an Alien, he had a State Department-issued visa; if he didn’t have a visa, he was American. Again, we know prior to that date that he believed himself to be an American. Since 1971 Senator Obama has traveled many times on US passports and he now – as a US Senator – travels on an Official passport which carries greater diplomatic weight (and requires greater background scrutiny) than what most American travelers use. By virtue of holding an Official US passport, Senator Obama has better proof of his identify, citizenship and place of birth than upwards of 90% of Americans.
In order to believe that Barack Obama was born anywhere but the United States, we must believe that there is [1] a successful conspiracy (including people now dead for decades) – dating back to the 1960s – to hide his place of birth and defraud the State Department with the sole goal that Senator Obama be allowed to run for president in 2008; or [2] an on-going conspiracy within Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice’s Department to allow a foreign-born person to run for president. I regard both of these options as rather silly.
In March of 2008, the State Department revealed that employees had been caught looking at Senator Obama’s passport records. In order to believe that Senator Obama is not a natural born US Citizen, we must believe that (1) those caught would rather go to jail than blow the whistle on the State Department’s cover-up; and (2) there are federal ethics investigators who have examined Senator Obama’s records and are now party to the conspiracy. I regard both of these options as very silly.
While it is conceivably possible that Barack Obama is not a natural born US Citizen, I regard the odds as so infinitesimally small as to put the fact of his US-birth beyond a reasonable doubt. I regard the hope that credible evidence establishing foreign birth will be discovered on the internet to be profoundly silly.
This is simply not true. I was born in Hawaii have a Hawaii "Certification of Live Birth" right before my very eyes and my copy says clear as day "DATE FILED BY REGISTRAR".
"In fact, the BC put up by Dolores or Doris whoever that people are gobbling up looks funny to me, not Obama's. That's not to say Dolores (who is this person anyway, and why is she deemed credible?) has offered up a fake, but rather a version that looks significantly different than mine--and Obama's.
I will give you the fact that your's and Obama's stating DATE FILED BY REGISTRAR is not a problem like someone tried to indicate, but you also state that the other person's birth certificate that was put up as an official one is SIGNIFICANTLY different than yours. Now I would like to know what those significant differences are? Since you say yours is like Obama's, the difference I notice between his and the other women's is he has no embossed state seal, or signature from an official and hers does. Are you stating that yours had no embossed state seal or signature either. Let me know what differences you see between yours and the other womens.
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