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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: rbookward

I know you are, but what am I?


9,801 posted on 04/25/2007 5:14:57 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: feinswinesuksass

“R U gonna kick your own ass?”

LOL!

Must be!


9,802 posted on 04/25/2007 5:14:58 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: rbookward

— Hmm. Didn’t think of that. See ya later.

Yeah. OK. Tchau.

Still buds?


9,803 posted on 04/25/2007 5:15:12 PM PDT by rbookward (When 900 years old you are, type as well you will not!)
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To: rbookward

Are you ok?


9,804 posted on 04/25/2007 5:15:13 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: Jim Noble
Well, sometimes, especially on highly charged issues like this, I’d rather just keep as light a hand on the tiller as possible to let the debate rage on. I always hope that most of our members share our common core values and it will eventually shakeout to a conservative consensus. In this case it did not. We’re now involved in a war of ideology and y’all know where I stand in that battle. We’ve received many shots over the bow during the last few months and you should know that we’re not going to turn tail and run. We’ve cleared the decks for battle.
9,805 posted on 04/25/2007 5:15:23 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m sorry that so many “on our side” have bought the liberals corruption of the term “swiftboating” that turned it into a pejorative. It isn’t. It means to shine the light of truth into the lies and distortions of unscrupulous politicians.

Rudy is prime for a swiftboating!


9,806 posted on 04/25/2007 5:15:30 PM PDT by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: rbookward

— Still buds?

The best. Later.


9,807 posted on 04/25/2007 5:15:40 PM PDT by rbookward (When 900 years old you are, type as well you will not!)
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To: No Blue States
>> I would rather fight and lose than somehow "win" without a clear conscience.

There you go! Fight for what's right and you never really lose. Sell out and you never really win.

9,808 posted on 04/25/2007 5:15:43 PM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: mkjessup

And that IS our mission


9,809 posted on 04/25/2007 5:15:46 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: wagglebee

“their closed Wide Awakes thread.”

Ivan’s Rejects Room


9,810 posted on 04/25/2007 5:15:52 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: Iwo Jima

Posting on FreeRepublic has never been a problem for me because, to the extent that there is any divergence between my libertarian views and the prevailing conservative views of this website, I do not use this forum to advance any contradictory positions.
***Excellent post. Maybe it should be in ALL CAPS so that some folks might get it.


9,811 posted on 04/25/2007 5:16:36 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: wagglebee; EternalVigilance
Heh... we'll see if the mass freepmails stop. As for WA, well... let them believe their guy is stayin' alive. ;-)


9,812 posted on 04/25/2007 5:17:17 PM PDT by cgk
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To: rbookward

9,813 posted on 04/25/2007 5:18:20 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness)
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To: NoGrayZone

15,000 is not out of the question....


9,814 posted on 04/25/2007 5:18:47 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

LOL

Just keep the coffee coming ....


9,815 posted on 04/25/2007 5:19:33 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: HairOfTheDog
Advocating for a Presidential candidate is asking the voters to put him, and by extension you, in charge of the country.

The form of advocacy which you are criticizing cannot and will not lead to victory.

That's all there is to it.

9,816 posted on 04/25/2007 5:20:17 PM PDT by Jim Noble (We don't need to know what Cho thought. We need to know what Librescu thought.)
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To: jedward

My oh my. Looks like our conservative party has had enough! We, the silent majority certainly create a bang when entering a room! Just like Fred Thompson!!!! RUN FRED RUN!!!!!!!!


9,817 posted on 04/25/2007 5:20:52 PM PDT by NoGrayZone
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To: Beagle8U
Rudy, thanks for coming on the program.

Could you tell us tonight who your supporters are?Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket

Well Bob, some of them here with us tonight. Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket

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Donkey Dude was able to show up and give his support, Hey DD! Sup? Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket

And Bob, lets give a big hand to Looter Guy!Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket

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We are up against a break Rudy, so I will have to cut you short. Please sum up for us what you will do if elected.

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Bob, if I win the election I will take your guns and encourage abortion,among other liberal policies.

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Umm, Thanks Rudy for coming on the program. Good evening.Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket

9,818 posted on 04/25/2007 5:21:20 PM PDT by No Blue States
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To: Finger Monkey
This is just my humble opinion but I don't see it as dying. I see it as a possible rebirth. The future of our country lies in the balance. Do you think rudy will lead this country in conservative causes or will he fling the WH doors open to let in liberal causes?

Where will the GOP then? The left have gone socialist and the right have turned left. Where does that leave conservatives? Out in the cold looking in.

Pushing a liberal on a conservative site is insanity. That's what the rudy supporters were doing to the detriment of this site.

Maybe FR is going through birthing pains right now and that's what you're seeing. Any woman who's given birth knows the pain, suffering and bloody mess involved in doing so. But when it's over, there's peace and something wonderful has been created. Don't be sad.

This country is standing on a precipice, does it fall into the black void of liberalism and socialism and get gobbled up like Europe or do we take a step back and say, not my country.

Electing rudy is the surest way of stepping off that cliff.

Mr Robinson is trying to pull us back from that edge. God bless him for it. He knows what he's doing, trust in him, have some faith. This site will not fold because some have left. They had a choice to make and they made it.

rant off

9,819 posted on 04/25/2007 5:21:43 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Hubby’s out of town to help his sister move (she had to move rather suddenly). I can stay up all night. Might need that coffee....


9,820 posted on 04/25/2007 5:21:52 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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