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Live Thread: Ben Barnes and CBS Attempt Another Bush Smear (60 Minutes)
www.freerepublic.com | September 8, 2004

Posted on 09/08/2004 4:39:18 PM PDT by Howlin

Have at him!


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To: A Citizen Reporter
Sigh---

All kidding aside, I suggest that going with the defense of "they are faked documents" will not play well.
241 posted on 09/08/2004 6:08:54 PM PDT by pacocat
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To: Howlin

I know Barnes was 27 in 1966 when my brother was in Vietnam. He was at Law School according to a brief bio. Before that he had attended college at Univ. of Texas. So how many deferments did he have? At 30, he had been elected Lt. Governor of Texas.


242 posted on 09/08/2004 6:09:02 PM PDT by mass55th ( “Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings.”)
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To: Howlin

Hey Howlin .. I just heard on the Radio .. Dan Rathernot mentioning a document that was just found in some officers file about President Bush

What the heck is that about?


243 posted on 09/08/2004 6:09:13 PM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: Theodore R.

He came from the Democrat city of Huntsville and graduated from Sam Houston State.



Explain yourself...... what do you mean he came from the Democrat city of Huntsville..... He went to college there is that's what you are implying.... Rather was born in Wharton Tx and raised mostly in Houston, went to Sam Houston State and wound up back in Houston with the Chronical, KTRH, KHOU the CBS station that picked him up and helped him get this start nationally.


244 posted on 09/08/2004 6:10:08 PM PDT by deport (In politics, as in fishing, you don't have to be a genius. You just have to be smarter than the fish)
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To: Howlin
E-Mail this story AND links to the media today.

John Kerry directly contributed to the lies of the anti war movement AND caused deaths and injuries
to US Military serving in Vietnam AND
directly caused deaths from injuries at home AND countless suicides because of his false testimony.

John Kerry is not fit to be elected dog catcher let alone President of the United States.
ANYONE who votes for Kerry AFTER knowing this data
is guilty of covering up John Kerry's war crimes!


John Kerry, director of the Vietnam Veterans against the War,
testified before special session the Senate Foreign Relations Committee
April 22, 1971

KERRY GAVE TESTIMONY BASED UPON FALSE INFORMATION
THAT KERRY KNEW AHEAD OF TIME TO BE FALSE!




September 6, 2004 -- **BREAKING** In Yesterday's Lies: Steve Pitkin and the Winter Soldiers, Scott Swett tells the story of a former VVAW member and participant in the Winter Soldier Investigation who states that John Kerry and others pressured him to give false testimony about American atrocities in Vietnam. After more than 33 years, Pitkin is the first Winter Soldier "witness" to file a legal affadavit regarding that event...

My name is Steve Pitkin, age 20, from Baltimore. I served with the 9th Division from May of '69 until I was airvaced in July of '69. I'll testify about the beating of civilians and enemy personnel, destruction of villages, indiscriminate use of artillery, the general racism and the attitude of the American GI toward the Vietnamese. I will also talk about some of the problems of the GIs toward one another and the hassle with officers.

-- Steve Pitkin, Winter Soldier Investigation, February 1, 1971.


E-Mail and/or fax these url's to EVERYONE ASAP! Kerry MUST be exposed NOW!
PUT PRESSURE ON THE MEDIA TO COVER THIS BEFORE NOV 2nd

Steve Pitkin Story


http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=YesterdaysLies1

Steve Pitkin Affadavit, August 31, 2004


http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=PitkinAff

Steve Pitkin DD-214


http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/graphics/PitkinDD214.jpg

Steve Pitkin WSI testimony


http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=PitkinWSI

Steve Pitkin WSI video clips -- February 1, 1971 (4:16, 1.6MB)


http://www.wintersoldier.com/video/pitkin2.wmv

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245 posted on 09/08/2004 6:10:34 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOUR YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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To: rocklobster11

What's your take on this?


246 posted on 09/08/2004 6:10:34 PM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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To: DoughtyOne
Gore ran around taking pictures. Kerry ran around looking for scratches for Purple Hearts, and GW flew fighter aircraft in the National Guard.

Gore is a massive phony. Kerry is a massive phony. GW is the real deal.

Give me GW's real deal vs Kerry's phony deal any day.

247 posted on 09/08/2004 6:11:09 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (You have entered a "No Girlie Men" zone. Thank you for not whining and sniveling.)
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To: Howlin
"Breaking his silence after 30 years..."

Changing his story after 30 years.

248 posted on 09/08/2004 6:11:27 PM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: pacocat
===Sigh

I suggest that trying to prop up credibility about docs that were hidden away by a CO, and not made part of the official record, is more than ludicrous.

249 posted on 09/08/2004 6:11:32 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: A Citizen Reporter

Date of Birth: October 31, 1931


250 posted on 09/08/2004 6:11:42 PM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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To: need_a_screen_name

Thanks so much!!


251 posted on 09/08/2004 6:12:27 PM PDT by mass55th ( “Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings.”)
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To: Indie
Blatant fact: The Communist Party USA has infiltrated the Rat Party. They are one and the same.
They just use the Rat Party name as a cover to fool the willingly ignorant sheeple..


I got so tired of Pelosi's hateful remarks that I did a little research on her a while back.

Scary stuff, folks, imho ...

Exposed: Pelosi's Socialist Ties

Pelosi leader of 'Progressive Caucus'



Click here or on the pic to hear
the Socialist Pelosi Pig squeal !

From those links, these excerpts ...

"DSA/USA, the 'Democratic Socialists of America' are the U.S. arm of the Socialist International. They share the symbol of the fist holding the rose, and they share the tasks to be accomplished — in our case, an altogether different America ...

"Some time ago — the date is missing from the descriptions — 58 members of the U.S. House of Representatives formed a subdivision of the Democratic Socialists of America and called it the Progressive Caucus. Their statement of purpose, as well as their membership list, formed an integral part of the dsausa Web site (www.dsausa.org ). The membership list appeared on the screen with the continuous background of the fist holding the rose, should anyone have missed the connection with the Socialist International."

Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., the likely [she is now] new minority leader in the House of Representatives, serves on the executive committee of the socialist-leaning Progressive Caucus, a bloc of about 60 votes or nearly 30 percent of the minority vote in the lower chamber.

The Democratic Socialists of America's chief organizing goal is to work within the Democratic Party and remove the stigma attached to "socialism" in the eyes of most Americans.

"Stress our Democratic Party strategy and electoral work," explains an organizing document of the DSA. "The Democratic Party is something the public understands, and association with it takes the edge off. Stressing our Democratic Party work will establish some distance from the radical subculture and help integrate you to the milieu of the young liberals."

Progressive Caucus


252 posted on 09/08/2004 6:12:58 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Howlin

Could someone please answer this question? Did Dan Rather or CBS ever mention that Barnes is one of the largest donors to Senator Kerry?


253 posted on 09/08/2004 6:13:29 PM PDT by watsonfellow
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To: Howlin

Isn't Killian dead? How did CBS authenticate documents supposedly authored by a dead man and weren't a part of the official file?


254 posted on 09/08/2004 6:13:36 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com/)
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To: alnick; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; potlatch; Happy2BMe







John "V" Kerry now admits he was at the VVAW Executive Steering Committee Meeting in Kansas City, Missouri from November 12-15, 1971

This was Kerry first US Senate vote.

Kerry claims he voted "Nay".

Isn't that special!



255 posted on 09/08/2004 6:14:09 PM PDT by devolve ( -- John"V"Kerry scams Boston Irish voters! - http://pro.lookingat.us/FakeIrish.html --)
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To: txrangerette
whipping up the anti-war protests against Nixon

I believe that.

256 posted on 09/08/2004 6:14:47 PM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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To: gswilder

Memos for Records that Bush's Squadron Commander wrote...recently "discovered".


257 posted on 09/08/2004 6:14:59 PM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

I agree.


258 posted on 09/08/2004 6:15:21 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: Howlin
"Wasn't there a Vietnam lottery in 1971"

According to a historical website:

"A lottery drawing - the first since 1942 - was held on December 1, 1969, at Selective Service National Headquarters in Washington, D.C. This event determined the order of call for induction during calendar year 1970, that is, for registrants born between January 1, 1944, and December 31, 1950. Reinstitution of the lottery was a change from the "draft the oldest man first" method, which had been the determining method for deciding order of call.

There were 366 blue plastic capsules containing birth dates placed in a large glass container and drawn by hand to assign order-of-call numbers to all men within the 18-26 age range specified in Selective Service law.

With radio, film and TV coverage, the capsules were drawn from the container, opened, and the dates inside posted in order. The first capsule - drawn by Congressman Alexander Pirnie (R-NY) of the House Armed Services Committee - contained the date September 14, so all men born on September 14 in any year between 1944 and 1950 were assigned lottery number 1. The drawing continued until all days of the year had been paired with sequence numbers.

259 posted on 09/08/2004 6:15:34 PM PDT by mass55th ( “Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings.”)
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To: rocklobster11
One thing here, why would Col Killian be overly concerned about Bush and feel the need to make memos on him?
I would guess that there were a lot more young men from far more important and richer connected families in the Guard Unit than Bush.
I think we need to see all those so called memos and I want to know exactly where they came from.
Why didn't they come out long before this? I mean Bush has been through two campaigns for Governor and one for President so those documents, if they are real, have been out there to find for a very long time.
It tells me this is sheer desperation on the Dems part to find this suspicious information at this juncture.
Ben Barnes is a know liar and a fraud. If he was only 29 in 1968 then he also would have eligible for the draft in the 1960's and since we know his Sugar Daddy was LBJ I guess we know how he stayed out of Vietnam.
260 posted on 09/08/2004 6:15:44 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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