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Study: Strong Association Between Solar Variation and Century Scale Climate Shifts
Watt's Up With That ^ | 2/17/22 | Eric Worrall

Posted on 02/17/2022 6:24:00 AM PST by norwaypinesavage

An international team of scientists, including Dr. Willie Soon, has produced a solar model which does a skilful job of reproducing past climate shifts such as the Little Ice Age and Medieval Warm Period...The main reasons for the Little Ice Age (LIA) are the long and deep minimum of summer insolation and insolation seasonality (IS) in the Northern Hemisphere...The noted characteristics of insolation, reflecting not only variations in the arrival of solar radiation, but also variations in the mechanisms of heat transfer, are not taken into account in the general astronomical theory of climate. Taking these indicators into account will help obtain more complete information about climate changes in past eras and will allow the more accurate forecasting of the future climate.

(Excerpt) Read more at wattsupwiththat.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; climatechange; climatechangefraud; climatechangehoax; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; hoax; iceage; solar
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The sun is the cause of earth's temperature. Who'da ever thunk it! resident Biden will have to start a 5 trillion dollar program to install earth's sunglasses.

This is certainly not a trivial finding since current Climate Models can't explain the Little Ice Age nor the Medieval Climate Optimum. (Note that the MCO, which was warmer than now, is called optimum.

1 posted on 02/17/2022 6:24:00 AM PST by norwaypinesavage
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To: norwaypinesavage

Duh! When common sense requires peer review. Freepers have been saying this for decades.


2 posted on 02/17/2022 6:27:16 AM PST by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda.)
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To: norwaypinesavage

The solar cycle climate model is 93% accurate at predicting present-day climate based on historical climate data.

https://electroverse.net/professor-valentina-zharkova-breaks-her-silence-and-confirms-super-grand-solar-minimum/

No climate “scientist’s” computer model comes close to that degree of accuracy and never will because of the impossibility of knowing and mapping an infinite number of initial conditions at a precise moment in time.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/09/04/chaos-climate-part-3-chaos-models/

The only reason climate “scientists” don’t use the solar cycle climate model is because it doesn’t give them the result they want; global warming.


3 posted on 02/17/2022 6:27:33 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong [FJB])
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To: norwaypinesavage

FAKE NEWS!
DISINFORMATION!
CLIMATE CHANGE DENIERS!.............................


4 posted on 02/17/2022 6:28:29 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: norwaypinesavage

The government will call this “conspiracy theory,” and denounce the scientists involved as “right-wing kooks” promoting “misinformation.”


5 posted on 02/17/2022 6:28:49 AM PST by Bon of Babble (Rigged Elections have Consequences)
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To: norwaypinesavage
The sun can not possibly be the cause of such changes in climate. Suppose for a minute that it was. How on Earth could that be exploited politically? How? You can't tell me can you? You have no idea?

Therefore we know there is no way its the cause. Its the basic rules of new science...that which we can use for our advantage is true.

6 posted on 02/17/2022 6:29:22 AM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: norwaypinesavage

Can we cool the Sun by creating a 999 Trillion Dollar tax payer funded Ice Cube and launching it into the Sun?


7 posted on 02/17/2022 6:35:17 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: norwaypinesavage

The tilt of the Earth and the eccentricity of its orbit plus the minor variables in solar output cause this. Global alarmist religion freaks study up. Its been going on for millions of years.


8 posted on 02/17/2022 6:42:38 AM PST by Don Corleone (leave the gun, take the canolis)
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To: Bon of Babble

You’re not wrong - I think you meant this sarcastically.

***The government is the one pushing climate change.

Climate change = budgets for government. EPA, NASA, even the DOJ and CDC! https://www.satellitetoday.com/government-military/2021/06/01/nasa-requests-6-6-budget-increase-to-fund-priorities-like-artemis-and-climate-research/

Climate change = taxes (just not called that). The EPA charges $52 per ton of CO2. https://19january2017snapshot.epa.gov/climatechange/social-cost-carbon_.html You cannot make this up, it’s not a tax, it’s a “carbon user fee.” Hahaha

Climate change = massive kickbacks, subsidies, hiring relatives (Harry Reid), investments where with insider trading you can become rich, rich, rich as a US politician. As a party you can give billions to Tesla, which then gives ~20% back in the form of political activism (all for those that support the “green” subsidies of course). Most of these brokerages have political ties (Al Gore for example): https://www.epa.gov/airmarkets/allowance-markets

Climate change is big business, for “gubbermint.” Not for you or most of the private sector, they will suffer. But for the “gubbermint” that is only looking out for the greater good, by saving our planet from climate change, by protecting us from Covid... these issues are a meal ticket.


9 posted on 02/17/2022 6:48:10 AM PST by Red6
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To: Fred Nerks
Finally a scientist who follows fact.The question of the scientist simply is :

" Will he soon" be the hero of Greta Thunburg?

Dr. Willie Soon


10 posted on 02/17/2022 6:51:53 AM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_qhttps://uintessentia_1.html))
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Can we cool the Sun by creating a 999 Trillion Dollar tax payer funded Ice Cube and launching it into the Sun?

In about 200,000,000 years from now we will likely have to do just that. So we better start saving now.

11 posted on 02/17/2022 6:54:48 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: norwaypinesavage

This is not new news. Good meteorologists have always said that sun spot activity is the indicator for weather


12 posted on 02/17/2022 6:57:41 AM PST by Nifster (I’m see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Bon of Babble
Climate change is a scam propagated by government, for government.

Movies like “An inconvenient truth” was basically a 97 minute advertisement for a problem where AL Gore stands to make millions.

However, in America today, the DOJ is only able to investigate 6 January “insurrectionists” or Russian ties by the Trump campaign. If you expect these political hacks to actually do their job, good luck. Heck, they can't get it right even if the evil Russians drop the answer into their lap and it wiggles (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-explosions-boston-congress/russia-warned-u-s-about-boston-marathon-bomb-suspect-tsarnaev-report-idUSBREA2P02Q20140326). Point is, Climate change is a scam, but the DOJ will ignore and see nothing. Covid has been riddled with civil rights violations like privacy rights (even though that is one of their claimed crimes they deal with)... but they will do nothing and in fact be on board with the nonsense, why? Because they are political hacks. Bottom line: there is no one out there that will fix this. Not the MSM, not the DOJ... The people (tax payers) will basically get taxed illegally, in what amounts to a government sponsored scam, and no one will say or do shit.

13 posted on 02/17/2022 7:02:07 AM PST by Red6
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To: norwaypinesavage

I took several geology courses in college. They cycles of the earth are fascinating. Climate worriers think in terms of hundreds of years. Global climate cycles last tens of thousands.

Geologically, we are barely out of the last ice age. One might think it would keep warming for a while.


14 posted on 02/17/2022 7:30:49 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Red6

Yes, I know.

We are hammered in California with dire stories of “human-created climate change causing massive drought.”

1,000 years of tree rings show drought is normal in California - including extreme droughts lasting 200 years.

Wet years are abnormal.

This is being used to scare, cow and control the population - we are under water restrictions as massive condo and apartment buildings are going up everywhere on the outskirts of my city - don’t those buildings the construction, and the people in them need water - in perpetuity?

Where is it going to come from when we are already under water restrictions - with threats of even higher fines for going from Tier I to Tier II. I pulled out both of my lawns after the cost of water skyrocketed - and the water police started issuing threats (they come around in a van with a check-list to see if there is there is water on the sidewalks, I see them every morning). We are already told we cannot fill pools, spas or backyard fountains.


15 posted on 02/17/2022 7:43:20 AM PST by Bon of Babble (Rigged Elections have Consequences)
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To: norwaypinesavage

That big political buffoon, Michael Mann, tried to wipe out the LIA and MCO in his fraudulent papers. And got busted.

This is excellent news. But yes, it will get buried. Until some designated shill publishes a fraudulent paper that “disproves” it. Then they’ll say “It’s debunked.”

Political Science neve dies, as it goal is not being correct; it’s power.


16 posted on 02/17/2022 7:47:03 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now! Desantis 2024!!!)
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To: Vermont Lt

Historical Geology and Paleontology were two of my favorite courses.


17 posted on 02/17/2022 8:41:13 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

Remember when the world was a hot house? Historical geology does. Lol.


18 posted on 02/17/2022 8:43:06 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: norwaypinesavage

Woah! Say it ain’t so, Joe.

You mean, CO2 doesn’t automatically warm up asteroids in deep space far from solar sources? Who knew?


19 posted on 02/17/2022 9:32:51 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (America -- July 4, 1776 to November 3, 2020 -- R.I.P.)
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To: Bon of Babble
Gubbermint does not produce wealth.

***All they do is ration it - redistribute it.***

In Texas we have the same shit. We have this semi government entity called ERCOT which rations electrical power. They don't produce more, they don't help control the costs, they really don't accomplish much other than appeasing the masses when their power is turned off and deflecting any responsibility away from the power companies that are squeezing an old/over taxed grid to the limit in order to maximize profits.

Euphemistically, this semi government rationing body has “reliability” in it's name: Energy RELIABILITY Council Of Texas.

Government is good at creating made up jobs, hiring people to watch other people (TSA - water checkers - EEO reps - LGBTQIA counselors - mask checkers at government buildings...), to make sure you're not using water when you shouldn't be, or how they define you shouldn't, but they're not to good at expanding the supply, because with the world being 75% water and 840 miles of coast line, there is no real reason why California has water shortages. Cheap and mass producible potable water from seawater has been possible since 1964. There is no excuse, none-

20 posted on 02/17/2022 10:53:31 AM PST by Red6
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