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Blood Expert Says He Found Why Some Covid-19 Vaccines Trigger Rare Clots
Wall Street Journal ^
| 05/13/2021
| Bojan Pancevski
Posted on 05/13/2021 10:37:44 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
Scientists world-wide are racing to understand why Covid-19 vaccines from AstraZeneca AZN +0.77% PLC and Johnson & Johnson JNJ +1.17% are causing rare but potentially deadly blood clots.
Determining the connection would help patients, doctors and health agencies better assess any risks posed by the vaccines and safely calibrate their use. In recent weeks, the U.S., the Canadian province of Ontario and several European countries including Norway and Denmark either paused or completely halted rollouts involving these vaccines.
“Understanding the cause is of highest importance for the next-generation vaccines, because [the novel] coronavirus will stay with us and vaccination will likely become seasonal,” said Eric van Gorp, a professor at Erasmus University in the Netherlands who heads a group of scientists studying the condition…
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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blood; bloodclots; cardiac; clots; coronavirus; covaxtruth; covid19; covidvaccine; heart; vaccine
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Thanks to all those who volunteered for medical experimentation—since these will be “seasonal”.
;-)
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posted on
05/13/2021 10:39:22 AM PDT
by
cgbg
(A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
To: Jan_Sobieski
They need to look at the Anthrax vaccine, too.
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posted on
05/13/2021 10:41:22 AM PDT
by
blueunicorn6
("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
To: Jan_Sobieski
Title says someone found out why the shots were causing clots.
What was the cause?
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posted on
05/13/2021 10:43:01 AM PDT
by
WildHighlander57
((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
To: Jan_Sobieski
Adenoviruses are the SAME mechanism they’ve been using in flu vaccines for years.
How many people have died because of that and it was never detected?!
How much of this “commonly used” preservative has found its way into children’s vaccines?!
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posted on
05/13/2021 10:43:30 AM PDT
by
Skywise
To: WildHighlander57
“Prof. Greinacher and his team has just begun examining Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine but has identified more than 1,000 proteins in AstraZeneca’s vaccine derived from human cells, as well as a preservative known as ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid, or EDTA. Their hypothesis is that EDTA, which is common to drugs and other products, helps those proteins stray into the bloodstream, where they bind to a blood component called platelet factor 4, or PF4, forming complexes that activate the production of antibodies.
The inflammation caused by the vaccines, combined with the PF4 complexes, could trick the immune system into believing the body had been infected by bacteria, triggering an archaic defense mechanism that then runs out of control and causes clotting and bleeding.
Prof. Andreas Greinacher is looking at the possible cause of an autoimmune response that leads to blood clots.
PHOTO: MANUELA JANKE/UMG
Prof. Greinacher has compared the activation of the dormant response—which has been supplanted in the evolution of the human immune system, but still lurks in its foundations—to “awakening a sleeping dragon.”
Prof. John Kelton of McMaster University in Canada, whose outfit runs Canada’s reference lab for testing patients with blood-clotting symptoms after vaccination, said the lab replicated some of Prof. Greinacher’s research and confirmed his findings.
Yet the cause was unclear. “[Prof. Greinacher’s] hypothesis could be right, but it could also be wrong,” Prof. Kelton said.”
Pro tip, most news articles behind a paywall will let you read them if you come from google, so if the FR link doesn’t work just google the article title and click on the google link, works for WSJ.
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posted on
05/13/2021 10:52:18 AM PDT
by
Impy
("Burn them all!!" - King Aerys II Targaryen, I share the sentiment )
To: WildHighlander57
In Germany, one researcher thinks he has found what is triggering the clots. Andreas Greinacher, a blood expert, and his team at the University of Greifswald believe so-called viral vector vaccines—which use modified harmless cold viruses, known as adenoviruses, to convey genetic material into vaccine recipients to fight the coronavirus—could cause an autoimmune response that leads to blood clots. According to Prof. Greinacher, that reaction could be tied to stray proteins and a preservative he has found in the AstraZeneca vaccine.
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posted on
05/13/2021 10:53:34 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Jesus said there is no marriage in Heaven. That's why they call it Heaven.....................)
To: Jan_Sobieski
So what is the cause?
I’m not going to go through the WSJ paywall.
If you are going to post stuff like this give us the summary of the headline.
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posted on
05/13/2021 10:57:29 AM PDT
by
P-Marlowe
(Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List )
To: P-Marlowe
ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid, or EDTA.
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posted on
05/13/2021 11:04:59 AM PDT
by
Jan_Sobieski
(Sanctification)
To: All
Their hypothesis is that EDTA, which is common to drugs and other products, helps those proteins stray into the bloodstream, where they bind to a blood component called platelet factor 4, or PF4, forming complexes that activate the production of antibodies. I don't want my EDTA straying. I want it corralled.
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posted on
05/13/2021 11:18:51 AM PDT
by
BipolarBob
(This is my chainsaw. There are many like it but this one is mine.)
To: P-Marlowe
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posted on
05/13/2021 11:24:46 AM PDT
by
Bigg Red
(Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
To: Impy
Could it also be the case that on occasion, and in error, the injection hits a vein or artery, and the vaccine gets directly into the bloodstream?
Seems that the numbers would work out about right.
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posted on
05/13/2021 11:26:53 AM PDT
by
absalom01
(You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
To: Jan_Sobieski
Women most likely to be on birth control.....
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posted on
05/13/2021 12:21:43 PM PDT
by
Nifster
(I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
To: Nifster
Wonder what this guy’s issue is…
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.abc4.com/news/local-news/draper-teenager-hospitalized-with-blood-clots-after-covid-19-vaccine-shot/amp/
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posted on
05/13/2021 2:03:11 PM PDT
by
Jan_Sobieski
(Sanctification)
To: Jan_Sobieski
Any effect or studies on ppl on blood thinners?
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posted on
05/13/2021 2:06:16 PM PDT
by
zlala
To: Impy
The EDTA link seems suspicious. Using an IV containing EDTA as a chelating agent to remove heavy metals from the bloodstream has been an accepted practice. The amount in a vaccine dose serving as a "preservative" is minuscule in comparison.
Chelation therapy for heart disease: Does it work?
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posted on
05/13/2021 2:49:22 PM PDT
by
Myrddin
To: Myrddin
there’s a heavy metal floating around here that’s been suspicious of this entire scam from the beginning...
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posted on
05/13/2021 3:02:03 PM PDT
by
heavy metal
(smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
To: Jan_Sobieski
Probably a gym rat using steroids
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posted on
05/13/2021 3:16:56 PM PDT
by
Nifster
(I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
To: Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; ...
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posted on
05/13/2021 3:39:40 PM PDT
by
bitt
(People who wonder if the glass is half empty or half full miss the point. The glass is refillable.)
To: Myrddin
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posted on
05/13/2021 3:57:52 PM PDT
by
grey_whiskers
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