Blood Expert Says He Found Why Some Covid-19 Vaccines Trigger Rare Clots

Wall Street Journal ^ | 05/13/2021 | Bojan Pancevski

[Jan_Sobieski]

Scientists world-wide are racing to understand why Covid-19 vaccines from AstraZeneca AZN +0.77% PLC and Johnson & Johnson JNJ +1.17% are causing rare but potentially deadly blood clots.

Determining the connection would help patients, doctors and health agencies better assess any risks posed by the vaccines and safely calibrate their use. In recent weeks, the U.S., the Canadian province of Ontario and several European countries including Norway and Denmark either paused or completely halted rollouts involving these vaccines.

“Understanding the cause is of highest importance for the next-generation vaccines, because [the novel] coronavirus will stay with us and vaccination will likely become seasonal,” said Eric van Gorp, a professor at Erasmus University in the Netherlands who heads a group of scientists studying the condition…

[cgbg]

Thanks to all those who volunteered for medical experimentation—since these will be “seasonal”.

;-)

[blueunicorn6]

They need to look at the Anthrax vaccine, too.

[WildHighlander57]

Title says someone found out why the shots were causing clots.

What was the cause?

[Skywise]

Adenoviruses are the SAME mechanism they’ve been using in flu vaccines for years.

How many people have died because of that and it was never detected?!

How much of this “commonly used” preservative has found its way into children’s vaccines?!

[Impy]

“Prof. Greinacher and his team has just begun examining Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine but has identified more than 1,000 proteins in AstraZeneca’s vaccine derived from human cells, as well as a preservative known as ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid, or EDTA. Their hypothesis is that EDTA, which is common to drugs and other products, helps those proteins stray into the bloodstream, where they bind to a blood component called platelet factor 4, or PF4, forming complexes that activate the production of antibodies.

The inflammation caused by the vaccines, combined with the PF4 complexes, could trick the immune system into believing the body had been infected by bacteria, triggering an archaic defense mechanism that then runs out of control and causes clotting and bleeding.

Prof. Andreas Greinacher is looking at the possible cause of an autoimmune response that leads to blood clots.
PHOTO: MANUELA JANKE/UMG
Prof. Greinacher has compared the activation of the dormant response—which has been supplanted in the evolution of the human immune system, but still lurks in its foundations—to “awakening a sleeping dragon.”

Prof. John Kelton of McMaster University in Canada, whose outfit runs Canada’s reference lab for testing patients with blood-clotting symptoms after vaccination, said the lab replicated some of Prof. Greinacher’s research and confirmed his findings.

Yet the cause was unclear. “[Prof. Greinacher’s] hypothesis could be right, but it could also be wrong,” Prof. Kelton said.”

Pro tip, most news articles behind a paywall will let you read them if you come from google, so if the FR link doesn’t work just google the article title and click on the google link, works for WSJ.

[Red Badger]

In Germany, one researcher thinks he has found what is triggering the clots. Andreas Greinacher, a blood expert, and his team at the University of Greifswald believe so-called viral vector vaccines—which use modified harmless cold viruses, known as adenoviruses, to convey genetic material into vaccine recipients to fight the coronavirus—could cause an autoimmune response that leads to blood clots. According to Prof. Greinacher, that reaction could be tied to stray proteins and a preservative he has found in the AstraZeneca vaccine.

[P-Marlowe]

So what is the cause?

I’m not going to go through the WSJ paywall.

If you are going to post stuff like this give us the summary of the headline.

[Jan_Sobieski]

ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid, or EDTA.

[BipolarBob]

Their hypothesis is that EDTA, which is common to drugs and other products, helps those proteins stray into the bloodstream, where they bind to a blood component called platelet factor 4, or PF4, forming complexes that activate the production of antibodies.

I don't want my EDTA straying. I want it corralled.

[Bigg Red]

Look at #6.

[absalom01]

Could it also be the case that on occasion, and in error, the injection hits a vein or artery, and the vaccine gets directly into the bloodstream?

Seems that the numbers would work out about right.

[Nifster]

Women most likely to be on birth control.....

[Jan_Sobieski]

Wonder what this guy’s issue is…

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.abc4.com/news/local-news/draper-teenager-hospitalized-with-blood-clots-after-covid-19-vaccine-shot/amp/

[zlala]

Any effect or studies on ppl on blood thinners?

[Myrddin]

The EDTA link seems suspicious. Using an IV containing EDTA as a chelating agent to remove heavy metals from the bloodstream has been an accepted practice. The amount in a vaccine dose serving as a "preservative" is minuscule in comparison.

Chelation therapy for heart disease: Does it work?

[heavy metal]

there’s a heavy metal floating around here that’s been suspicious of this entire scam from the beginning...

[Nifster]

Probably a gym rat using steroids

[bitt]

p

[grey_whiskers]

+1