If we could get millions of Americans to march on Washington, what would we do?

Prior thread ^ | July 18, 2009 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

* * R O U G H * * D R A F T * *

(continuing my remarks from prior thread)

Here is our recourse as declared by our Founding Fathers:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

It cannot be denied that the central government has become destructive of our unalienable rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and our rights to live free. The government is no longer responsive to we the People. They have stretched and shredded the constitution to the point that they have illegally seized for themselves virtually unlimited powers over the citizens and act as if we have no rights and no powers of our own. They are acting without our consent.

Our Founders established that when our government becomes destructive of our rights then it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

We have reached the point where the government's long train of abuses and usurpations has achieved absolute Despotism, therefore it is our right, it is our duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for our future security.

Therefore, We the People of America choose to exercise our right to throw off and alter the abusive government by peacefully recalling and removing from office the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States and all U.S. Senators and U.S. Representatives effective immediately.

An interim provisional Chief Executive and congressional representatives will be established as follows:

The Secretary of State shall immediately assume the office of interim Chief Executive. The Chief Executive shall appoint and the interim Senate shall confirm an interim Vice President.

An immediate election shall be held within each state legislature to appoint two interim senators to represent each sovereign state.

A special election shall be held by all states within 30 days to elect interim members of the House of Representatives.

Elections for regular government offices shall be conducted in November, 2010 as previously scheduled, except that elections will be held for all elective offices, including President, Vice President and all U.S. Representatives. U.S. Senators will be elected per class schedule by the various state legislatures.

We alter the government to provide new Guards for our future security as follows:

The Constitution of the United States must be kept intact and must be adhered to and strictly followed by all government entities as originally intended. The government has stretched the constitutional limits well beyond those intended by our founders. We must take steps to ensure that this is corrected and that the out of control government is reined in and that sufficient measures are introduced to maintain the limits, checks and balances on government and that government powers are strictly limited to those enumerated in the constitution and that our rights are reestablished, reaffirmed, re-secured and safeguarded. We must restore and reestablish the sovereignty of the people and the states and restore the constitutional balances between the central government, the various states and we the people. The constitution severely restricts government powers and guarantees unalienable freedom and Liberty to the people.

As we restore constitutionally limited government several wrongs must be righted:

The central government has illegally expanded its powers. They've done this by ignoring or stretching their constitutional limits. They have usurped powers limited to the states and the people. We must reestablish and reaffirm the enumerated powers and limit the central government strictly to just those powers. They've built huge power bases by allowing senators and representatives to be full time professional career positions. We eliminate this by establishing strict qualifications for office and term limits.

We must reestablish and reaffirm the powers to the states and the people as defined by the 9th and 10th amendments.

The central government has denied the states their constitutionally guaranteed republican form of government by introducing the 17th amendment which alters the way the senators which were to represent the sovereign interests of the various states to the central government. We must reestablish that representation by repealing the 17th amendment and allowing the state legislatures of the various states to elect their own senators as intended by our founders. This was never intended to be a function of the people. We the People are represented to the central government by our elected representatives in the House of Representatives. The sovereign states were to be represented by the state's senators to keep central powers and encroachment in check. Power is from the people to the states, and from the states to the central government. They've turned this upside down and inside out. We must correct it.

We hereby repeal the 17th amendment.

The central government has expanded well beyond the limits established for it by the founders and pay for that expansion by directly taxing the people and severely restricting our rights through an enslaving income tax.

We hereby repeal the 16th amendment.

The IRS and all sub departments and agencies are hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed.

The newly elected congress will establish rules and schedules for assessing and collecting fees, tariffs and excise taxes to support the armed forces and all constitutionally authorized departments of The United States Government per the Constitution of the United States (see schedule).

The central government is hereby stripped of all illegal powers and all departments and agencies not authorized by the constitution are hereby dissolved and disbanded. Their current budgets are hereby withdrawn. All disbanded department funds and liquid assets are to be immediately returned to the US Treasury. A list and methods for achieving this is provided in schedule xxx.

Ownership and responsibility for all federally held buildings, lands, parks, waterways, oceans, seas, etc, other than those in Washington, D.C. or military bases, forts, reservations, or local federal buildings owned by valid constitutional federal departments (see schedule) are hereby transferred to the sovereign state governments within which they reside or are located.

Responsibility for all natural resources found within any of the various states or within lands, oceans, lakes, rivers, waterways, seas out through our international boundary limits are hereby returned to the various states. All laws for mining, drilling, logging, or otherwise capitalizing on any minerals or natural resources are to be determined by the various states within which said resources are found.

The social security system is hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed. All social security funds being held by the federal government are to be returned to the private retirement accounts of the individuals owning them. A special fund will be establish for all current recipients and new recipients according to schedule xxy and the social security system shall be phased out accordingly. The funds to support current social security benefits shall become the responsibility of the states within which the recipients reside.

No revenues accruing to the federal government shall be disbursed to any state, city or local government for any reason whatsoever. Or used to subsidize or benefit any government or private entity, organization or person, other than those explicitly authorized and enumerated in the constitution.

All states are hereby solely responsible for any and all revenues or funds required to operate their sovereign states. The central government is not obligated to and shall not interfere in state government or local affairs.

The interstate commerce clause shall be applied strictly to regulating interstate commerce as originally established and intended by our founders. No stretches or reinterpretations of any kind shall be allowed.

Our first unalienable right is the right to life. Protecting Life and Liberty shall be of paramount importance to our central government. Roe v Wade and all congressional acts, regulations, court opinions allowing legalized abortion or the taking of innocent human life are hereby rescinded, overruled, repealed, nullified and voided. Life is fully protected by the U.S. Government.

The Federal Reserve.

Border security.

Medicare.

FAA, FDA, FCC, various federal ABC departments agencies and agencies. Which to close, which to remake with constitutional limits and authority, etc.

Federal Pensions.

Etc, etc, etc.

Need lots of help with this document, folks. Please chime in. Would love to see a committee formed of members of every state to complete and finalize it. Then we should form and send delegates to a special national congress to work out the kinks and plan its presentation and execution.

This concept is an entirely peaceful altering of our despotic government per our unalienable right and duty. No where do I call for violence. The only force I call for is the force of numbers. We need millions of our citizens to sign on to this petition and execute its provisions. Will require millions to march on D.C. to block the government's ability to do business as usual. This is our right and duty as Americans.

[Two Thirds Vote Aye]

bump

[Tennessee Nana]

Even worse if the so called “leader of the GOP”, Romney, was put in charge of the rebellion...

Romney wouldnt fight mind you...he’s a proven draft dodging coward...

Plus he’s scared of guns...

But you can just bet he would be there when it was all over to take credit and take over, like the carpetbagger he is...

[divine_moment_of_facts]

Thank you Jim. We women were wondering when our Men would come up with a plan to stop this insanity.

Our Founding Fathers intended.. a UNITED STATES of America.. Not a Federal Government controlling everything and everyone.

God Bless you.

[Winstons Julia]

Thanks. If we’re out of time...what’s the point?

I don’t think we’re out of time. But I also feel like there’s complete disarray on one side while the other side has a majority and the media in cahoots with them. But I sense that people ARE waking up to the realities of what has happened in a really short time.

I guess there’s a tendency for people to say, whatever Jim wants, they are with him and just shut up and cheerlead.

I DO cheerlead the idea of us low-level terrorists doing something while we can, but the specifics have to be clearly laid-out. Also, is this meant to be a group of concerned Americans whose views are conservative, or an armed group of people who are the FURTHEST right?

What’s the criteria for becoming a member of this group?

In short, what are the specific reasons people should join this protest?

[anniegetyourgun]

I’m sure FR is already monitored.

[TASMANIANRED]

Congress may not pass any legislation and then exempt themselves from it.

[A Navy Vet]

"And those who cannot make it to D.C. need to march on their state capitol or the nearest major city. It needs to be countrywide so we make it very clear that we hate what these idiots are doing to our country."

Yes, "countrywide", but State capitols are ineffectual. The socialists have grown use to it and would simply think, "Another day; another protest. So what."

Research should be done to see what local, state, and federal laws apply to protesting in front of or down the street from the traitorous Congresscritters' home residences.

If it's legal or at least not a felony, I suggest (as did a poster above) get in their face and see how they like being singled out, as they do with us Constitutionalists.

No threats on the signs; no threats via bullhorn; no threat of violence. Peacefully picket close to their homes during a recess and let them get an "up and personal" idea how it feels to lose their privacy and inherent right to be left alone.

If it's legal, it would have a bigger impact on these socialists than any gathering at a State capitol or WalMart parking lot, to quote a poster on this thread.

We need to take this to the next level. Jim Gilcrist of "Minutemen" had pro-illegal protesters outside his home just across the hwy from me some years back. I never heard of any prosecutions. I could be wrong. It's worth looking into such an effort.

As I've been saying for some time (others on this thread), we should start using the liberal/socialist handbook that has been so successful for them for decades.

[reasonisfaith]

“In short, what are the specific reasons people should join this protest?”

Simple. To reestablish the fact that rights flow from God to the people and from the people to the government.

And you can go ahead and drop the “low level terrorists” line. Nobody following the rules and basic tenets associated with FreeRepublic is a terrorist.

[alarm rider]

Just guessing, but scare the crap out of the left?

[upchuck]

BUMP!

We need a simple list with simple supporting documentation that can be disseminated far and wide.

It needs to be a strong attention getting device as most people (unfortunately) are very apathetic about this.

[DejaJude]

As I've been saying for some time (others on this thread), we should start using the liberal/socialist handbook that has been so successful for them for decades.

Yes, let's use that, "dissent is patriotic" line that they used.

[Winstons Julia]

Loved your post, agreed with most of it, although I believe that if the message is strong and well-written and the people gin to understand, a march on DC is a good idea.

[Envisioning]

All in, again............ping!

[Winstons Julia]

Au contraire. I’m a low-level terrorist. Drop that line? Are you kidding? The fact that the DOD would have a test that identifies public protest as the example of “low-level terrorism” is one HUGE rallying point right now. I went to a tea party. That makes me a low-level terrorist according to Obama’s DOD.

Trust me, even Democrats were stunned when THAT news broke.

And it might seem simple to you...but “we’re angry because God gives us the rights and we give you the power” is not enough of a message.

[central_va]

Jim: I have no desire to take over or try to reform the corrupt federal monster. Let them have their socialist utopia. They must let us leave in peace this time, no fighting no bloodshed.

"Secession belongs to a different class of remedies. It is to be justified upon the basis that the States are Sovereign. There was a time when none denied it. I hope the time may come again, when a better comprehension of the theory of our Government, and the inalienable rights of the people of the States, will prevent any one from denying that each State is a Sovereign, and thus may reclaim the grants which it has made to any agent whomsoever."

"The contest is not over, the strife is not ended. It has only entered upon a new and enlarged arena."

"The principle for which we contend is bound to reassert itself, though it may be at another time and in another form."

                                - Jefferson Davis Pres. CSA

[RushIsMyTeddyBear]

Now the DUmpsters think FR should be banned as a hate site:
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Meh. Let the ‘Squidwards’ at ‘KKKos’ and ‘DUmmyland’ squirm and blow ink.

[stockpirate]

not the usual ping

[BuckeyeTexan]

See, that’s where you’re mistaken. They’re not insecure with low self-esteem. They’re over-confident with delusions of grandeur. And that’s how we’ll take them down.

[trustandobey]

I’d march around the Capitol 7 times!

[reasonisfaith]

Understood.

But as for the flow of rights, its reversal is in fact the most basic problem here.

So the message should be the bullet points you mention which illustrate, in the most concise form possible, specific ways the government has reversed this most basic principle. Put forth in a way that makes it real and stirs emotions.

Problem is, enough people really have to be angry and this doesn’t tend to happen until they really know and feel the threat to life and liberty.