Posted on 07/18/2009 11:30:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
Edited on 07/18/2009 11:48:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
* * R O U G H * * D R A F T * *
(continuing my remarks from prior thread)
Here is our recourse as declared by our Founding Fathers:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
It cannot be denied that the central government has become destructive of our unalienable rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and our rights to live free. The government is no longer responsive to we the People. They have stretched and shredded the constitution to the point that they have illegally seized for themselves virtually unlimited powers over the citizens and act as if we have no rights and no powers of our own. They are acting without our consent.
Our Founders established that when our government becomes destructive of our rights then it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
We have reached the point where the government's long train of abuses and usurpations has achieved absolute Despotism, therefore it is our right, it is our duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for our future security.
Therefore, We the People of America choose to exercise our right to throw off and alter the abusive government by peacefully recalling and removing from office the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States and all U.S. Senators and U.S. Representatives effective immediately.
An interim provisional Chief Executive and congressional representatives will be established as follows:
The Secretary of State shall immediately assume the office of interim Chief Executive. The Chief Executive shall appoint and the interim Senate shall confirm an interim Vice President.
An immediate election shall be held within each state legislature to appoint two interim senators to represent each sovereign state.
A special election shall be held by all states within 30 days to elect interim members of the House of Representatives.
Elections for regular government offices shall be conducted in November, 2010 as previously scheduled, except that elections will be held for all elective offices, including President, Vice President and all U.S. Representatives. U.S. Senators will be elected per class schedule by the various state legislatures.
We alter the government to provide new Guards for our future security as follows:
The Constitution of the United States must be kept intact and must be adhered to and strictly followed by all government entities as originally intended. The government has stretched the constitutional limits well beyond those intended by our founders. We must take steps to ensure that this is corrected and that the out of control government is reined in and that sufficient measures are introduced to maintain the limits, checks and balances on government and that government powers are strictly limited to those enumerated in the constitution and that our rights are reestablished, reaffirmed, re-secured and safeguarded. We must restore and reestablish the sovereignty of the people and the states and restore the constitutional balances between the central government, the various states and we the people. The constitution severely restricts government powers and guarantees unalienable freedom and Liberty to the people.
As we restore constitutionally limited government several wrongs must be righted:
The central government has illegally expanded its powers. They've done this by ignoring or stretching their constitutional limits. They have usurped powers limited to the states and the people. We must reestablish and reaffirm the enumerated powers and limit the central government strictly to just those powers. They've built huge power bases by allowing senators and representatives to be full time professional career positions. We eliminate this by establishing strict qualifications for office and term limits.
We must reestablish and reaffirm the powers to the states and the people as defined by the 9th and 10th amendments.
The central government has denied the states their constitutionally guaranteed republican form of government by introducing the 17th amendment which alters the way the senators which were to represent the sovereign interests of the various states to the central government. We must reestablish that representation by repealing the 17th amendment and allowing the state legislatures of the various states to elect their own senators as intended by our founders. This was never intended to be a function of the people. We the People are represented to the central government by our elected representatives in the House of Representatives. The sovereign states were to be represented by the state's senators to keep central powers and encroachment in check. Power is from the people to the states, and from the states to the central government. They've turned this upside down and inside out. We must correct it.
We hereby repeal the 17th amendment.
The central government has expanded well beyond the limits established for it by the founders and pay for that expansion by directly taxing the people and severely restricting our rights through an enslaving income tax.
We hereby repeal the 16th amendment.
The IRS and all sub departments and agencies are hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed.
The newly elected congress will establish rules and schedules for assessing and collecting fees, tariffs and excise taxes to support the armed forces and all constitutionally authorized departments of The United States Government per the Constitution of the United States (see schedule).
The central government is hereby stripped of all illegal powers and all departments and agencies not authorized by the constitution are hereby dissolved and disbanded. Their current budgets are hereby withdrawn. All disbanded department funds and liquid assets are to be immediately returned to the US Treasury. A list and methods for achieving this is provided in schedule xxx.
Ownership and responsibility for all federally held buildings, lands, parks, waterways, oceans, seas, etc, other than those in Washington, D.C. or military bases, forts, reservations, or local federal buildings owned by valid constitutional federal departments (see schedule) are hereby transferred to the sovereign state governments within which they reside or are located.
Responsibility for all natural resources found within any of the various states or within lands, oceans, lakes, rivers, waterways, seas out through our international boundary limits are hereby returned to the various states. All laws for mining, drilling, logging, or otherwise capitalizing on any minerals or natural resources are to be determined by the various states within which said resources are found.
The social security system is hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed. All social security funds being held by the federal government are to be returned to the private retirement accounts of the individuals owning them. A special fund will be establish for all current recipients and new recipients according to schedule xxy and the social security system shall be phased out accordingly. The funds to support current social security benefits shall become the responsibility of the states within which the recipients reside.
No revenues accruing to the federal government shall be disbursed to any state, city or local government for any reason whatsoever. Or used to subsidize or benefit any government or private entity, organization or person, other than those explicitly authorized and enumerated in the constitution.
All states are hereby solely responsible for any and all revenues or funds required to operate their sovereign states. The central government is not obligated to and shall not interfere in state government or local affairs.
The interstate commerce clause shall be applied strictly to regulating interstate commerce as originally established and intended by our founders. No stretches or reinterpretations of any kind shall be allowed.
Our first unalienable right is the right to life. Protecting Life and Liberty shall be of paramount importance to our central government. Roe v Wade and all congressional acts, regulations, court opinions allowing legalized abortion or the taking of innocent human life are hereby rescinded, overruled, repealed, nullified and voided. Life is fully protected by the U.S. Government.
The Federal Reserve.
Border security.
Medicare.
FAA, FDA, FCC, various federal ABC departments agencies and agencies. Which to close, which to remake with constitutional limits and authority, etc.
Federal Pensions.
Etc, etc, etc.
Need lots of help with this document, folks. Please chime in. Would love to see a committee formed of members of every state to complete and finalize it. Then we should form and send delegates to a special national congress to work out the kinks and plan its presentation and execution.
This concept is an entirely peaceful altering of our despotic government per our unalienable right and duty. No where do I call for violence. The only force I call for is the force of numbers. We need millions of our citizens to sign on to this petition and execute its provisions. Will require millions to march on D.C. to block the government's ability to do business as usual. This is our right and duty as Americans.
We need to organize Buses and group discounts for our cause, as well as set up travel funds for those with modest means...some conservatives are not wealthy, or even middle class
Even Hitler knew the power of people.
It cannot start at the top...a million man march in DC (went nowhere didn't it?).
Like Iran, it must gain momentum locally and supporters must see the local movement and be heartened by it.
It is a bonfire that must start small and be fed by the passion of believers.
A million man/woman march on DC without an agenda or momentum will go absolutely nowhere.
This cause is right. People are willing to march locally at first and, as momentum builds, regionally...then nationally. They are willing to die for this cause.
It must be peaceful and they must be willing martyrs.
They must die so freedom can live...and so that Obama is exposed for what he is!
But to start nationally is naive. The movement must gain momentum first...it must ferment and mature before it bursts on the national scene.
that’s me for sure.
yes I agree too.
Welcome to Free Republic!! You will LOVE it here.
What to do with a million people in Washington? You all could present the Congress with a the text of a bill that imposes real penalties on them whenever they introduce, vote for or pass unconstitutional legislation. Real penalties like fines that hurt and they have to pay, not their campaign chests, canceling of their health care, investment and pension plans paid for by the public, and named jail or prison times for the most egregious bills.
Then make them introduce that bill to Congress, vote for it and enact it.
We should also write a bill that authorizes a budget so that the new law is funded and can be exercised.
Finally bring sample legislation that revokes all the unconstitutional clearly Marxist government programs and executive branch appointees and bureaucrats. Make it a crime to appoint a ‘czar’ with a clear penalty for failing to obey.
That’s probably all you’ll have time for.
Well, it’s a damn good think I’m not advocating force, violence or an overthrow of the government then. Just stating my desire to see a return to constitutional government and discussing how that could be done within our first amendment rights to peaceable assembly and petition of grievances.
The day the government makes it illegal to print or to quote or refer to the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution or the founding of America is the day totalitarianism has completely arrived.
After my second pass, I was still excited about the concept and the possibilities but began to think about the details of implementing these actions and the possible consequences of such. (Yeah, yeah, we totally could do this. It could work if we did it peacefully and without violence. What about the half of the country that actually likes the government that is currently in place? Would they be willing to recognize as legitimate a new form of government? Given the chance to elect new government representatives would they elect representatives of the same character and mentality of those currently serving? Would we be right back where we started with an evenly divided set of government representatives?)
After my third pass, the excitement had worn off and reality began to sink in. Questions lingered. (Hey, wait a minute. What if the elected officials currently in place refused to go? What if half the country refused to recognize a new government and therefore refused to participate in electing new representation for themselves. Wouldn't they see the new government as not representative of their own rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? Would they feel forced to take action as we did? Would they do so peacefully or violently?)
After my fourth pass, complete and utter dread set in. (Oh no, there is no chance at a peaceful reformation and resolution with half of the country. There would be terrible violence and bloodshed. The entire country would shut down upon itself.)
After my fifth pass, I began to negotiate with myself and offer compromises within the current system that didn't lead to total chaos and bloodshed the likes of which we've not seen and could not imagine. (If the problem is that two halves of the country have completely different mindsets, ideas, and values, would we be more successful integrating change within the current system so as not to alienate half the country and instigate violence on their part? How could we do that? Could we some mandate that the new session of Congress after the 2010 elections immediately address our primary concerns as their first order of business and forbid them to take any other actions, pass any other laws? How could we do that?)
After my sixth pass, I'm left feeling that the only avenue to successful (and peaceful) change, reformation, and reduction of the current system of government will only be possible within the framework of the system in place today.
I'm going to read it again. Did you consider any of these scenarios in your head? Did you ask yourself any of these questions? Did you come to the conclusion that peaceful, nonviolent change could be successfully implemented? If so, how did you reach that conclusion? I need to understand that thought process. (It's an honest, sincere question and is absolutely not intended to be sarcastic or antagonistic in any way.)
Bookmark for later review.
I’m in. If this be treason, let us make the most of it.
Same with welfare.
A girl can dream.....
“A Constitution is a thing antecedent to a Government, and a Government is only the creature of a Constitution. The Constitution of a country is not the act of a Government, but of the people constituting a Government. It is the body of elements, to which you can refer, and quote article by article, and which contains the principles on which the Government shall be established. Then manner in which it shall be organized, the powers it shall have, the mode of elections, the duration of Parliments, or by what other name such bodies may be called, the powers which the executive part of the Government shall have, and in fine, everything that relates to the compled organization of a civil Government, and the principles on which it shall act, and by which it shall be bound. ...the Government is in like manner governed by the Constitution.” Rights of Man, by Thomas Paine
The Looters, who have seized the citadel of our nation, each pledge to honor and defend our constitution. They have failed to fulfill that pledge of office. Without a Constitution we have no law, no civil government, and no security in our inalienable rights to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.
We should perhaps recall the words of Sam Adams, on the eve of the Minute Men gathering on the green at Lexington, “If ye be men, take up your arms and arrest the King’s officers.”
The question we must each answer, for ourselves, in the near future is, “Are we the men our forefathers were?”
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No flame here-
You show good sense my Liberty Loving friend. A cloud of tear gas and a panicked crowd is no place for a child or even a semi-invalid.
Please read through the comments... To DC we go....
No problem with that...which is why we need at least a million people in D.C. September 10-12. And those who cannot make it to D.C. need to march on their state capitol or the nearest major city. It needs to be countrywide so we make it very clear that we hate what these idiots are doing to our country.
We don’t want to overthrow our government, we want to get it back to it’s original state.
is this not endorsing the overthrow of the present administration ?
by whatever means possible ?
and is not the actual intent of the second amendment "right to keep and bear arms" written law in order to secure this ability to overthrow such a rogue government as the Obama Administration ?
because the founders knew this was bound to happen and that "peaceful means" would be futile ?
The system in place today is corrupt. Think ACORN. How will we ever have a valid vote again?
So what? Our spiritual forebears were called traitors and rabble by King George and his bullies.
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