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If we could get millions of Americans to march on Washington, what would we do?
Prior thread ^ | July 18, 2009 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 07/18/2009 11:30:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Edited on 07/18/2009 11:48:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

* * R O U G H * * D R A F T * *

(continuing my remarks from prior thread)

Here is our recourse as declared by our Founding Fathers:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

It cannot be denied that the central government has become destructive of our unalienable rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and our rights to live free. The government is no longer responsive to we the People. They have stretched and shredded the constitution to the point that they have illegally seized for themselves virtually unlimited powers over the citizens and act as if we have no rights and no powers of our own. They are acting without our consent.

Our Founders established that when our government becomes destructive of our rights then it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

We have reached the point where the government's long train of abuses and usurpations has achieved absolute Despotism, therefore it is our right, it is our duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for our future security.

Therefore, We the People of America choose to exercise our right to throw off and alter the abusive government by peacefully recalling and removing from office the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States and all U.S. Senators and U.S. Representatives effective immediately.

An interim provisional Chief Executive and congressional representatives will be established as follows:

The Secretary of State shall immediately assume the office of interim Chief Executive. The Chief Executive shall appoint and the interim Senate shall confirm an interim Vice President.

An immediate election shall be held within each state legislature to appoint two interim senators to represent each sovereign state.

A special election shall be held by all states within 30 days to elect interim members of the House of Representatives.

Elections for regular government offices shall be conducted in November, 2010 as previously scheduled, except that elections will be held for all elective offices, including President, Vice President and all U.S. Representatives. U.S. Senators will be elected per class schedule by the various state legislatures.

We alter the government to provide new Guards for our future security as follows:

The Constitution of the United States must be kept intact and must be adhered to and strictly followed by all government entities as originally intended. The government has stretched the constitutional limits well beyond those intended by our founders. We must take steps to ensure that this is corrected and that the out of control government is reined in and that sufficient measures are introduced to maintain the limits, checks and balances on government and that government powers are strictly limited to those enumerated in the constitution and that our rights are reestablished, reaffirmed, re-secured and safeguarded. We must restore and reestablish the sovereignty of the people and the states and restore the constitutional balances between the central government, the various states and we the people. The constitution severely restricts government powers and guarantees unalienable freedom and Liberty to the people.

As we restore constitutionally limited government several wrongs must be righted:

The central government has illegally expanded its powers. They've done this by ignoring or stretching their constitutional limits. They have usurped powers limited to the states and the people. We must reestablish and reaffirm the enumerated powers and limit the central government strictly to just those powers. They've built huge power bases by allowing senators and representatives to be full time professional career positions. We eliminate this by establishing strict qualifications for office and term limits.

We must reestablish and reaffirm the powers to the states and the people as defined by the 9th and 10th amendments.

The central government has denied the states their constitutionally guaranteed republican form of government by introducing the 17th amendment which alters the way the senators which were to represent the sovereign interests of the various states to the central government. We must reestablish that representation by repealing the 17th amendment and allowing the state legislatures of the various states to elect their own senators as intended by our founders. This was never intended to be a function of the people. We the People are represented to the central government by our elected representatives in the House of Representatives. The sovereign states were to be represented by the state's senators to keep central powers and encroachment in check. Power is from the people to the states, and from the states to the central government. They've turned this upside down and inside out. We must correct it.

We hereby repeal the 17th amendment.

The central government has expanded well beyond the limits established for it by the founders and pay for that expansion by directly taxing the people and severely restricting our rights through an enslaving income tax.

We hereby repeal the 16th amendment.

The IRS and all sub departments and agencies are hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed.

The newly elected congress will establish rules and schedules for assessing and collecting fees, tariffs and excise taxes to support the armed forces and all constitutionally authorized departments of The United States Government per the Constitution of the United States (see schedule).

The central government is hereby stripped of all illegal powers and all departments and agencies not authorized by the constitution are hereby dissolved and disbanded. Their current budgets are hereby withdrawn. All disbanded department funds and liquid assets are to be immediately returned to the US Treasury. A list and methods for achieving this is provided in schedule xxx.

Ownership and responsibility for all federally held buildings, lands, parks, waterways, oceans, seas, etc, other than those in Washington, D.C. or military bases, forts, reservations, or local federal buildings owned by valid constitutional federal departments (see schedule) are hereby transferred to the sovereign state governments within which they reside or are located.

Responsibility for all natural resources found within any of the various states or within lands, oceans, lakes, rivers, waterways, seas out through our international boundary limits are hereby returned to the various states. All laws for mining, drilling, logging, or otherwise capitalizing on any minerals or natural resources are to be determined by the various states within which said resources are found.

The social security system is hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed. All social security funds being held by the federal government are to be returned to the private retirement accounts of the individuals owning them. A special fund will be establish for all current recipients and new recipients according to schedule xxy and the social security system shall be phased out accordingly. The funds to support current social security benefits shall become the responsibility of the states within which the recipients reside.

No revenues accruing to the federal government shall be disbursed to any state, city or local government for any reason whatsoever. Or used to subsidize or benefit any government or private entity, organization or person, other than those explicitly authorized and enumerated in the constitution.

All states are hereby solely responsible for any and all revenues or funds required to operate their sovereign states. The central government is not obligated to and shall not interfere in state government or local affairs.

The interstate commerce clause shall be applied strictly to regulating interstate commerce as originally established and intended by our founders. No stretches or reinterpretations of any kind shall be allowed.

Our first unalienable right is the right to life. Protecting Life and Liberty shall be of paramount importance to our central government. Roe v Wade and all congressional acts, regulations, court opinions allowing legalized abortion or the taking of innocent human life are hereby rescinded, overruled, repealed, nullified and voided. Life is fully protected by the U.S. Government.

The Federal Reserve.

Border security.

Medicare.

FAA, FDA, FCC, various federal ABC departments agencies and agencies. Which to close, which to remake with constitutional limits and authority, etc.

Federal Pensions.

Etc, etc, etc.

Need lots of help with this document, folks. Please chime in. Would love to see a committee formed of members of every state to complete and finalize it. Then we should form and send delegates to a special national congress to work out the kinks and plan its presentation and execution.

This concept is an entirely peaceful altering of our despotic government per our unalienable right and duty. No where do I call for violence. The only force I call for is the force of numbers. We need millions of our citizens to sign on to this petition and execute its provisions. Will require millions to march on D.C. to block the government's ability to do business as usual. This is our right and duty as Americans.


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To: Jim Robinson

Very succintly written Mr. Robinson and so many others share this deeply felt, fiercely held belief system. One of the concerns that I’ve expressed, is getting us all in one place. With the insanity going on, what in your opinion, would prevent this monster from calling in armed troops/thugs and killing us, or at the very least, herding us into prisons where we would never see the light of day again?
This event is no secret and is on the minds of many. The brazeness of this current government is astonishing and they are ‘pro-death’ anyway.
Very interested to hear if you’ve addressed this issue in your writings/thoughts.


41 posted on 07/18/2009 11:55:24 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (The Light at the end of the Tunnel, is the headlamp of an on-coming Train)
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To: lula

Unemployment will have to be dealt with at the state and local levels. Guess a whole shitpot load of ex government workers will be desperately seeking to learn a trade or learn how to establish lemonade or shoeshine stands.


42 posted on 07/18/2009 11:56:15 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: Jim Robinson

I really think it is going to take something like this.


43 posted on 07/18/2009 11:56:19 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (WWTHD - What Would The Hondurans Do?)
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To: Outlaw Woman

We get the military on our side.


44 posted on 07/18/2009 11:57:45 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: Jim Robinson

Houston, we have a problem.

“government’s long train of abuses and usurpations”

You have a certain amount of folks here who know what these are. You have other folks here, who agree, but can’t list them all. I fall into the latter group. It’s exhausting work.

But I think there’s a lot of soaring and borderline bellicose rhetoric.

While soaring rhetoric inspired when it came from the founding fathers, now, the general population is much less invested in caring about what DC does.

We have been numbed into apathy and ignorance.

I read in the BBC today that the US military actually did a study about tobacco use in the forces and was thinking about banning tobacco consumption in war zones, but had decided against it.

This one sort of shook me to my roots. What kind of government thinks it has a right to prohibit the use of a legal substance in its military? That’s just some crazy and scarily intrusive stuff!

And so, I see clearly on the horizon that our rights to our bodies will be trumped. We will be mandated to live as the government decides proper. Apparently, we’ll be allowed to be high on marijuana, though. That ought to dull the sharp revocation of our freedoms.

So, while I’m as concerned as you are, I think that FIRST we need to list in clear terms those things that the government has done which are in clear opposition to the constitution.

And following that, perhaps a court challenge is in order.

Right now, it seems that some people are fired up (but believe me when I say the general public is ignorant of a lot of this and mostly apathetic) but others cannot sense a clear and present danger to our constitution being presented by the current government and before it can be opposed, it must be articulated succinctly with bullet points and supporting documentation.


45 posted on 07/18/2009 11:58:25 AM PDT by Winstons Julia (doubleplusungood)
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To: Jim Robinson

We need General James Mattoon Scott.


46 posted on 07/18/2009 11:58:39 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century. I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Outlaw Woman

*succinctly* didn’t spell check...sorry.


47 posted on 07/18/2009 11:59:40 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (The Light at the end of the Tunnel, is the headlamp of an on-coming Train)
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To: 1035rep

Whoa... good stuff on that site! Thanks.


48 posted on 07/18/2009 11:59:47 AM PDT by nutmeg (How's all that "Hope" and "Change" working out for you, Comrade?)
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To: Jim Robinson; xzins
If we could get 1,000,000 patriots to march on Washington, I would suggest that, in accordance with our second amendment rights, we all bring our "sporting equipment" with us.

These Tyrants need to know just how serious We, the People, are about protecting our LIBERTY!

FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!

49 posted on 07/18/2009 12:00:19 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Jim Robinson

I would go and take my family.
My first demo was a tea party but with all this going on I am ready to go to DC.
Hopefully joined by gun right groups
civil rights groups
abortion groups
tax groups
etc
etc
etc

The media could never ignore all of us marching on there and blocking the place.
Obviously it would have to be weekends seeing as us on the right more or less work and are not paid thugs and demo organisers.


50 posted on 07/18/2009 12:00:40 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman , nothing else-- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Jim Robinson

Do we as well transfer the federal debt to the states dividing the liabilities by each states population ?


51 posted on 07/18/2009 12:01:57 PM PDT by Popman (Joe Biden REALLY can't be Vice President, can he ?)
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To: Jim Robinson

Time out...A funny thing happened on the way to the forum.

As I was coming to Free Republic just now, here’ are the first two topics to come up...

If we could get millions of Americans to march on Washington, what would we do?

Followed by

Kill the Old People


52 posted on 07/18/2009 12:02:28 PM PDT by IM2MAD
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To: Winstons Julia
Well, Julia, this is the mission of Free Republic. Those who have some other mission in mind are certainly welcome to go elsewhere. I'd never dream of asking you to sign on to a concept you don't believe in.

We believe in Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

Constitutional restoration has long been our primary mission on Free Republic.

53 posted on 07/18/2009 12:02:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: Winstons Julia

tell you now and this is from serving

if he tried to ban smoking in the military then that will be another issues which the military will get pissed off with.
We already have homos pushing to be openly homo and yet tell us it is their private business and now smoking.


54 posted on 07/18/2009 12:03:11 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman , nothing else-- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: nutmeg
For some reason this one irritates the libtards the most:)

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55 posted on 07/18/2009 12:03:19 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Jim Robinson; All

If we could just get MILLIONS of people off their blessed assurance to VOTE - there would never be another socialist, Marxist allowed to hold the office of President; nor a PROGRESSIVE in charge of the congress.

I’m praying Glenn Beck’s new book, “Common Sense”, and Mark Levin’s new book, “Liberty and Tyranny” - helps a lot of people return to the voting booth.


56 posted on 07/18/2009 12:04:00 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Michael Yon: "The U.S. military is the most respected institution in Iraq.")
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To: sonic109
"...cause eserious . "

It's worked in the past...it's what got the current crop of commies in power, starting in the 60's protests and civil rights marches. It got them their way.

It just depends on how long it will take Americans to get tired of the tail wagging the dog.
57 posted on 07/18/2009 12:04:04 PM PDT by FrankR (We are only enslaved to the extent of charity we receive....INCUMBENTS OUT!!!)
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To: P-Marlowe

I believe that it states in the constitution that the people have a right to gather etc.
So why are these towns and areas telling certain folks they cannot because of permit issues?


58 posted on 07/18/2009 12:04:25 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman , nothing else-- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Popman
Do we as well transfer the federal debt to the states dividing the liabilities by each states population ?

I'm in california (keep me in your prayers) and it already sucks to be us.

P.S. Would that be legal, working population? If so, I'd probably be okay.

59 posted on 07/18/2009 12:06:22 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: kabar

bookmarked


60 posted on 07/18/2009 12:06:51 PM PDT by freemama
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