Posted on 04/10/2009 11:09:45 PM PDT by pissant
An official in the office of Kentucky's elections chief has referred to state Attorney General Jack Conway for investigation the issue of Barack Obama's eligibility to be president.
In a letter to Conway, Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Leslie A. Fugate noted the issue of "President Barack Obama's eligibility to be on the ballot in Kentucky."
There was no immediate word on the status of any investigative work that might be launched by investigators for Conway, the 49th attorney general for Kentucky, who was elected in 2007 and has made targeting cybercrimes a priority.
If a formal investigation actually is begun it apparently would be the first time the many lawsuit plaintiffs across the country would see a door opening to some answers about the murky circumstances surrounding Obama's eligibility to be president.
Among the typical responses to eligibility challenges WND has reported was a federal judge's dismissal of a case because the issue already had been "twittered."
Further, lawyers hired to defend against such cases also have begun threatening sanctions against plaintiffs' lawyers unless they agree voluntarily to leave the issue of eligibility unquestioned.
"Because our office does not have investigative powers … we are referring the matter to your office," she wrote.
The letter followed a visit to elections officials by California attorney Orly Taitz, who is working through her Defend Our Freedoms Foundation on several court cases challenging Obama's eligibility.
A committee of concerned citizens accompanied Taitz to Fugate's office to ask that the eligibility issue be investigated.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
...... let me add, why did he advertise the COLB in the first place? What was wrong with simply producing the original birth certificate.
0bomo keeps his birth certificate sealed because once he opens that up there will be demands to open up university transcripts, his thesis, his admissions records for evidence of affirmative action, records from his time as Illinois State Senator and so on down the line
0bomo is an expert at getting his opponents sealed divorce records open THUS he knows better than most that he should hide everything. Keep prying eyes away from his dubious past. There is no upside for 0bama opening up anything about his past
Ask the FBI what happened to the ACORN computers confiscated before the election? Are they stockpiled in Zero’s office or did Soros buy them back?
obumpa
People are asking, "Why won't Obama produce his original birth certificate?"
Obama will surrender to the pirates and fight the eligibility issue until his last breath.
NancyP, as chairperson of the Democratic Nominating Committee (different from DNC Chairman Howard Dean), signed an affidavit attesting to Obama’s nomination as the Democratic nominee for the Office of the President of the US.
That’s right, she could be charged with fraud and conspiracy if Obama is found to be ineligible.
That is why so many of her Congressional colleagues have deferred to her on Obama’s eligibility. You don’t call the Speaker of the House a liar unless you have proof.
So far, Obama has successfully hidden the truth.
Incidentally, Biden’s election by the Electoral College was a separate and unrelated event to Obama’s vote count. Biden becomes President and will probably name Jill Biden Vice President.
The President Pro Tempore of the Senate is Robert Byrd. So, you would have the first African-American President kicked out and replaced by the first KKK President.
-PJ
The same document as that from kentucky came from the state of Tennessee.
It is signed by Nancy Pelosi and certifies the Brown Clown was nominated by the DNC convention. It says nothing about qualifications.
The DNC had bilaws or rules or something that was posted here back in June or July 2007 that gave rules for nominations. So yes it would affect Pelosi signing off on it.
But to democrats fraud on this scale is just an embarrassment, not criminal. That’s why democrat judges won’t allow the truth to surface, it would embarrass their affirmative action messiah.
So, you would set the Constitution aside for this Kenyan klown! Figures. This is the attitude of rinos. You might want to change your name here since your obsequious pleadings betray your non-conservative nature.
Firstly - and for the record in this forum - the order of succession is as follows, by position, and person occupying that office:
Vice President - Joseph Biden
Speaker of the House of Representatives - Nancy Pelosi
President of the Senate, Pro Tempore - Harry Reid
Secretary of State - Mrs. William Jefferson Hillary Rodham Clinton
Secretary of the Treasury - Timothy Geithner
Secretary of Defense - Robert Gates
Attorney General - Eric Holder
Secretary of the Interior - Ken Salazar
Secretary of Agriculture - Tom Vilsack
Secretary of Commerce - Gary Locke
Labor Secretary - Hilda Solis
Secretary of Health and Human Services - Kathleen Sibelius
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development - Shaun Donovan
Secretary of Transportation - Ray LaHood
Secretary of Energy - Steven Chu
Secretary of Education - Arne Duncan
Secretary of Veterans’ Affairs - Eric Shinseki
Secretary of Homeland Security - Janet Napolitano
I know I am not the only (CONSERVATIVE) person who instinctively sees an enormous problem with this larger picture.
In this whole array we have but one “Republican”, Kathleen Sibelius, and based upon her pro-abortion record and several other criteria, I will safely assume that ALL of us in this forum regard her as an unqualified (in every sense of the word) R.I.N.O.
Robert Gates may be a Republican, but he is a holdover from the George W. Bush administration, and perhaps the only selection by zer0bama that ANY conservative in the country can stomach. Nonetheless, he was selected by, and serves at the pleasure of the President.
If Obama is disallowed as U.S. President, ALL actions taken by him since he insinuated himself into office (for the sake of this construct) by illicit means, are similirly invalid on their face.
Each and every Executive Order, every bill presented to him by Congress for his signature, every action taken and every word spoken by him to foreign leaders and dignitaries, any and every treaty, alliance, and/or trade agreement entered into him in behalf of the American people.
All are at once null and void, without further qualification.
So what then?
First and foremost, he would have to either resign, or face being forcibly removed from office.
Herein lies the first possible conundrum.
Correct me if I am wrong - anybody - but is it not true that should he fail to resign immediately (and Joseph Biden as Vice President along with him) the responsibility for removing him from office by force of legal authority wold fall upon the shoulders of the highest law enforcement officer in the land - currently sitting Attorney General, Eric Holder!?
Holder has already demonstrated his political-philosophical leanings, as well as his loyalty to Obama’s agenda. He would probably feel a tremendous amount of personal reluctance to exercise the authority of his office against the very man who appointed him to that office in the first place.
Nonetheless, he is sworn to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America as the highest law of this land. If he were to have any hope whatsoever of holding his head up among decent people in this country ever again, he would have to find himself under enormous pressure to act in behalf of the Constitution and of “We, the People” whom he is sworn to protect.
So does he remove Obama, and thus insure that he will himself sooner or later be forced to vacate the Attorney General post, as an invalid appointee? Or does he choose another direction, in apparent defiance of the will of the people and the direction of the law!?
If Holder obeys his Constitutional obligations in this scenario, who then will exercise further investigative authority and maintain jurisdiction over all which proceeds out of Obama’s and Biden’s removal?
Will that same body (The Justice Department, perhaps?) insist that all of the Cabinet appointees step down as well.
Will either Pelosi or Reid be found to have their fingerprints on any aspect of the cover-up of Obama’s origins and citizenship?
Will a Democratic Party dominated Congress exercise control over a situation which could easily permanently cripple or destroy public willingness to place ANY trust in any of them.
If Obama is established as a fraud, what is called for. A new election? How will the candidates be selected, or will we default to the same GOP ticket and the Democrat party runner-up, Mrs. William Jefferson Hillary Rodham Clinton?
She is the sitting Secretary of State, and like her or not, she is nothing if not a shrewd political operator. I would virtually guarantee that once she got wind of such an event, she would begin moving forward on two different fronts.
In the name of “political decency” or fairness or something, she would be among the very first to tender her resignation, calculated to distance herself as quickly and thoroughly as possible from the taint of such a scandal.
She would make some moving and probably tearful speech, invoke America, the Constitution, G_d, and family, common decency (remember she is shrewd!!)
Behind the scenes, her cadre of people would be moving at TOP speed to mobilize an “organic, grassroots movement” in her favor. She would want the support to appear to come from some distance away, politically speaking.
The most annoying and sickening part is that her supporters would be rightfully able to present her as a wronged/aggrieved party - a victim, cheated out of something which should have belonged to her.
SHe has played this card before, does anyone out there seriously think she would not play it now - from an infinitely stronger position of legitimacy?
It would also be reasonable to expect that all the dirt we all know her to have on her political opponents would come out of the dusty files and at risk of seeing the light of day, she would get a lot of “independent” acclaim, and lobbying in her behalf.
“Power abhors a vacuum”, and Hillary abhors being anywhere near power and not holding the reins.
We as Conservatives should not make the same mistake twice of underestimating our opponents and overestimating the strength of our own position.
We underestimate Hillary at our own extreme peril. WHere there is a will, there is a way, and it has long been obvious that she has a will to power.
Before a situation like this develops, we ABSOLUTELY MUST have a plan.
If we FAIL TO PLAN, we are essentially PLANNING TO FAIL.
Pointing our fingers publicly in this situation would not be good enough.
Saying, “We’re not those corrupt guys over there in that party...” would also not be good enough.
Howling about the wrong done to us all, and identifying every Democrat with Obama will not be good enough...
We have to (by we, I mean our Conservative elected leaders in the GOP) have an actual, workable plan. We must recognize that this is a transitory state which has never before existed in the 233 years - long history of our dear Republic, and we must collectively be (like Reagan was during trying times) the voices of calmness and consistency, the voices in favor of order and reason, the advocates for confidence and good cheer.
We should do well to remember who we are. We are America, and the whole world would undeniably be watching - watching to see our example, watching to see if we negotiated our way through a potentially grave crisis with maturity, gravitas, and clarity of vision - or if we would revert as so many nations have before, to the worse angels of our nature.
WE MUST HAVE A PLAN. It must be BETTER and MORE APPEALINGLY articulated than the plan the Democrats will offer...
Be sure that they will offer one...and expect that it will be a lie (or a series of lies), but know that presents no problem for them.
They’ve been lying for decades. They have no problem continuing to do something they have done for so long, and they certainly have no compunctions about engaging whatever “spin” may be necessary to market their lies.
Above all else they regard holding power as their birthright, and they will neither relinquish nor share it willy-nilly.
We must have a plan - without one, we might as well all stay home. Not having a plan got us here in the first place, because we perhaps just assumed we would triumph because we were right.
3 - 2 - 1 -
Confer, consult, and discuss!
A.A.C.
BTTT for morning read......thats a big brain bomb and I am off to bed.......Stay safe !
Sounds like a plan to me, right now we do not want to waste a crisis, in the upcoming tea parties the word should get out about expressing the facts of Obama’s failure to be a leader of the people, of dereliction of office and misuse of executive privileges.
What would it take to stop the piracy off of the Somali coast, sailing the USS Constitution out with a volunteer crew while defying calls to stand down like Obama has instructed the Navy?
Old Ironsides is a rally image I am using for the cause, the cause that Obama is evading because of his natal and religious loyalties.
Bite your tongue and don’t be an ass!
I am the furthest thing from obsequious.
My pleadings are for common sense and measured, reasoned actions as opposed to a headlong rush with no contingency plans - which would surely doom us as Conservatives, to failure.
This is TOO IMPORTANT for us to fail - don’t you agree?
We will probably NOT get a second “bite at the apple”, so to speak.
By that, I mean that if our actions are poorly conceived, poorly planned, or poorly executed - it may bring such significant discredit upon all of us that we would sacrifice all of the “political coin” of credibility we may have left.
Though they may be dying, we presently have the mainstream mass media lined up in ranks for zer0bama, and against us.
They will readily associate us ALL with the most marginalized of fringe groups, just like they have tarred members of nearly every Gospel-of-Jesus-believing, pro-life church member with the scant handful who have killed abortionists and blown up clinics -
and of course, we ALL handle poisonous snakes on weekends, abuse our children by spanking them and denying them scientifically sound medical care in favor of “antiquated” “faith healing”.
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That is how bad, how severe their “spin” will be to protect one of their own - especially their “chosen” one (barf!)
They will drag out every stereotype in their playbooks to use against us, to vilify us...and remember please - they have no compunctions about lying or fabricating stories from whole cloth if it suits their agenda.
If they dared to do so against George W. Bush (the “Rathergate” phony memos), there is little to stop them against us.
They have their operatives everywhere, and they will try as hard to trash us as they did Sarah Palin, and Joe the Plumber
I am DAMN sure not a rino - not now - not ever
NO way, shape or form. No how!
Learn to read before you EVER write another post like that to me; don’t be an idiot!
I stand completely and utterly for the US Constitution, and it grieves me to no end to see zer0 use it like toilet paper on a daily basis.
I advocate nothing so much as having a well and fully developed plan BEFORE we go on the attack.
“Half-baked” will not work. Our opposition is too shrewd, and they have already done too much to consolidate their own grip on power.
If they succeed in hijacking control of the census and its results, and giving away money to ACORN, even the midterm elections may not sweep the bass turds from power in the Congress, but if we cannot gain control of House and Senate...
Let me put it this way, Facts and truth be damned, (because that is the Democrats’ attitude) do you think that with a party majority behind them, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are simply going to roll over and give up? I don’t.
We will have to fight them for it. We need a plan, because right now, they have superiority of numbers, and that could trump us.
Look at the order of succession for the Presidency (my post #35). Pelosi comes right after Biden, and Reid follows her.
They are sadly, not so different from the group that had to be dragged into voting to impeach Bill Clinton (and Republicans had a majority at that time, even) and they could not be persuaded to remove him from office in the face of what should have been adequate evidence.
That situation was different of course, but a similar problem exists now - persuading the majority in power to do what is right - especially when it is against (the interests of) their party remaining in power.
Remember this, if you remember nothing else...I am talking about our need for a strategy.
Not just ANY old strategy, but a strategy for success.
We have our principles and that is good - great, or even laudable. But we must have an effective way to spread them and see them implemented.
Try reading my post # 35 and then get back to me. We need to think ahead - think of what comes “after”, or we will be perceived as creating a new problem as bad as the one we set out to solve.
We have to be prepared with a solution - offer a clear path through the mess, basically. If we do not show leadership, why should we expect to lead?
I am no rino - I am more Conservative than anyone I know - bar none...I am to the right of Barry Goldwater, Sr.
But I am a thinking Conservative who likes our side to win. I look at what we have done right, and what we have done wrong in the past for instruction.
If we seriously want to WIN, against the kind of opposition we are facing, we better be nothing less than ready, or they will destroy us.
We cannot telegraph our punches, we cannot leave any stone unturned, or any argument unaddressed. We cannot leave them an “out”. We must be ready to seize the opportunity and destroy them - and “look good” doing it.
We have truth and honor; they will lie at will and distort on-demand. We have to have that “something extra” to succeed.
A.A.C.
I’ve seen this, and it serve to further underscore his fraud, Pelosi’s fraud, and the rest of the DNC power brokers
Words, just words. You make all those claims but are missing the point of birthers standing up for the truth, and this affirmative action fraud has you willing to set aside the simplest Constitutional requirement and focus on other struggles, thus agreeing to accept his lie and negate OUR Constitution. Sorry, you don’t strike me as genuine. You have the twang of an Arlen Specter pleading ‘Scottish Law’ in order to not vote for the obvious.
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