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Iraq al-Qaida Says Pope, West Are Doomed
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 9/19/06 | Anna Johnson

Posted on 09/18/2006 10:54:20 PM PDT by XR7

An al-Qaida-linked extremist group warned Pope Benedict XVI on Monday that he and the West were "doomed," as protesters raged across the Muslim world to demand more of an apology from the pontiff for his remarks about Islam and violence.

The Mujahedeen Shura Council, an umbrella organization of Sunni Arab extremist groups that includes al-Qaida in Iraq, issued a statement on a Web forum vowing to continue its holy war against the West. The authenticity of the statement could not be independently verified.

The group said Muslims would be victorious and addressed the pope as "the worshipper of the cross" saying "you and the West are doomed as you can see from the defeat in Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya and elsewhere. ... We will break up the cross, spill the liquor and impose head tax, then the only thing acceptable is a conversion (to Islam) or (killed by) the sword."

Islam forbids drinking alcohol and requires non-Muslims to pay a head tax to safeguard their lives if conquered by Muslims. They are exempt if they convert to Islam.

In Indian-controlled Kashmir, meanwhile, shops, businesses and schools shut down in response to a strike call by the head of a hard-line Muslim separatist leader to denounce Benedict. For the third day running, people burned tires and shouted "Down with the pope."

Protests also broke out in Iraq, where angry demonstrators burned an effigy of the pope in Basra, and in Indonesia, where more than 100 people rallied in front of the heavily guarded Vatican Embassy in Jakarta, waving banners that said the "Pope is building religion on hatred."

The pope...cited the words of a Byzantine emperor who characterized some of the teachings of Islam's Prophet Muhammad as "evil and inhuman" and referred to spreading Islam "by the sword."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


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To: XR7

were we not already "doomed" before this latest event too? lol
what a bunch of islamic douche bags.


41 posted on 09/19/2006 12:20:50 AM PDT by SoothSayerONETIME
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To: Bushwacker777
Are you planning on sending all eight and counting, I assume, children to college? If so, do you expect that they'll all get scholarships?

The reason that schools can offer scholarships, is because other parents pay full price.

Each to his/her own and YOU shouldn't tell others what how many children they SHOULD have.

Many Muslims have children to use as cannon/bomb/plane fodder.

Americans shouldn't.

42 posted on 09/19/2006 12:24:39 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons; Bushwacker777
Pretty self-righteous and condescending you are.
And, you write as if you've swallowed the lefties' EarthFirst, Zero-Population Growth propaganda hook-line-and-sinker.
43 posted on 09/19/2006 12:34:31 AM PDT by XR7
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To: stephenjohnbanker

We need to show extreme force just once in the middle east!


44 posted on 09/19/2006 12:45:23 AM PDT by patriciamary
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To: XR7
First...buy yourself a good dictionary and look up the meaning of the word "condescending".

Next get someone to help you to understand it and how to apply it.

Thirdly, don't make wild assumptions about someone you don't know and most assuredly, don't tell someone on a CONSERVATIVE forum, that they are a far lefty loon.

Some people enjoy having large families; others don't. Some can afford to send multiple children to the best schools and colleges, summer camp, piano or violin or whatever lessons; most can't. Telling others, in stentorian tones, that ALL CHRISTIANS should have at least THREE children is self-righteous, smarmy, and over the line. BTW, what about Jews? We have a lot of very nice FREEPERS who are Jewish.

Lots of people with m any children DO hope that all of their children will get scholarships. There is no other way that they can ever hope to send the children to college. I stated a simple fact......those that pay full price, ARE also paying for other people's kids. And no, endowments and scholarships don't cover all of the costs for scholarship kids.

Okay, so how many children do YOU have? :-)

45 posted on 09/19/2006 12:47:32 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
con·de·scend
Pronunciation: "kän-di-'send
Function: intransitive verb
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French condescendre,
from Late Latin condescendere, from Latin com- + descendere to descend
1 a : to descend to a less formal or dignified level :
UNBEND b : to waive the privileges of rank
2 : to assume an air of superiority

Hmm.
Describes you to a "T".
And, you hijacked the thread.

46 posted on 09/19/2006 12:58:39 AM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7
Nope, but is certainly describes the post I replied to.

Neither have I hijacked this thread; unlike you.

47 posted on 09/19/2006 1:01:09 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Well, I have two of college age. One is working and has not decided on what to do in life -- the other has entered a marketing and international finance program in university and yes, he has gained an almost full tuition scholarship.

The one issue that united Darwinian thought and traditional Christianity is that large families is a plus.


48 posted on 09/19/2006 1:03:12 AM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: nopardons

Oh, just for your information I paid my way through college and graduate school by...


HAVING A JOB!


49 posted on 09/19/2006 1:05:28 AM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: Bushwacker777
But YOU began this by pontificating on how EVERY CHRISTIAN ( what about Jews ?) should have at least three children.

I then explained that not everyone wants/can afford to have lots of children and that the Muslims have many kids, but use them for cannon fodder. Americans should have children in order to use them for suicide bombing missions.

Then, as I said, you expect your kids to get scholarships. I was not wrong in that assessment. Thank you for proving my point.

50 posted on 09/19/2006 1:14:55 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Bushwacker777
Sometimes that isn't possible today. It really depends on what college or university one goes to.
51 posted on 09/19/2006 1:16:01 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: tflabo

They don't make any sense to me. So if you pay a "head tax" (non-muslim) you're ok? But in the next breath if you don't convert you die? They need to make up their minds.


52 posted on 09/19/2006 1:22:52 AM PDT by Not just another dumb blonde
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To: XR7
Iraq al-Qaida Says Pope, West Are Doomed

Well, of course. After all, one of the "Signs of Qiyamah" is the Muslim conquest of Rome.

http://www.geocities.com/muslimapocalyptic/WebProphecies.htm
(not making a link so they don't trace hits back to this thread)

(Scroll halfway down page)

Conquest of Istanbul and Rome
...
“The Prophet said, ‘you will invade the Arabian Peninsula and Allah will grant it (to you). Then (you will invade) Persia and Allah will grant it (to you). Then, you will invade Rome and Allah will grant it (to you). Then, you will invade The Dajjal and Allah will grant him (to you).’"
...
“The Prophet Sallallahu ‘Alaihi Wa Sallam said, ‘The building of Bayt al-Maqdis (al-Aqsa in Jerusalem) will be followed by the destruction of Yathrib (Madinah), which will be followed by a fierce battle (great war), which will be followed by the conquest of Rome, which will be followed by the appearance of the Dajjal.’"

For more information about Muslim End-Time prophecies, see my FR Homepage.

53 posted on 09/19/2006 1:41:28 AM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Not just another dumb blonde

They've always done it that way. Usually they kill enough non-Muslims to make their point and then when the rest have surrendered, they collect the tax from and enslave them. This is because Muslims are incapable of running an economy and producing anything, so if they kill off all the productive Christians and Jews, they know they will cut off the money supply.

They have done this consistently in taking over new areas - first they kill, then they enslave.


54 posted on 09/19/2006 2:41:32 AM PDT by livius
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To: XR7
"These homicidal maniacs would kill us all if they had the right technology. Good thing there's plenty of ocean between us.

News flash .... they are here.

56 posted on 09/19/2006 2:58:03 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Religion of peace my arse - We need a maintenance Crusade)
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To: nopardons
There is no other way that they can ever hope to send the children to college.

Really? My niece just finished her BA last year -- worked full-time, went nights and paid for it herself. She'll be starting a Master's program this year.

57 posted on 09/19/2006 3:19:56 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Bushwacker777

Mark Steyn's new book, "America Alone", addresses the birth rate problem.


58 posted on 09/19/2006 3:29:22 AM PDT by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: devolve
Islam forbids drinking alcohol and requires non-Muslims to pay a head tax

This may be what is wrong with these young Islamo fascists........ they're getting no head.

59 posted on 09/19/2006 4:09:15 AM PDT by beyond the sea ( A tree fell in woods, a conservative wasn't around, would it still kill the liberal chained to it ?)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert
"... but perhaps now those (libs) who have been on the fence, or who are just too busy with their own lives to pay the attention they should to matters of this sort, will get the message."

It will never happen, sorry to say. They are perpetually locked in a 1960's Marxist mind set. They blame capitalist society for ALL the worlds ills. Our very existence and way of life has caused all this rage in the Islamic world, in their mind. To the liberal, Islam is the latest victim of capitalist globalization. In fact, they can identify more with Islam more than they can with you as a fellow American. We selfishly use all the worlds resources, don't you know? The sooner the U.S. is brought down, the sooner the world can start to heal. All this according to a very liberal niece of mine. Our Bolshevik members of congress also suffer from this malady.
60 posted on 09/19/2006 5:06:33 AM PDT by Gum Shoe
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