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EU says internet could fall apart
guardian ^
| Wednesday October 12, 2005
| Richard Wray
Posted on 10/13/2005 3:08:55 PM PDT by postaldave
.Developing countries demand share of control
·US says urge to censor underlies calls for reform
A battle has erupted over who governs the internet, with America demanding to maintain a key role in the network it helped create and other countries demanding more control.
The European commission is warning that if a deal cannot be reached at a meeting in Tunisia next month the internet will split apart.
(Excerpt) Read more at technology.guardian.co.uk ...
TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: china; dns; eu; europeanunion; internet; russia; un; unitednations
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This whole things is a HUGE big deal. I honestly can't understand why no one is talking about this. What is at stake is handing over the internet(we control) over to the UN and china and all the other dirtbag speech nazis in the world.
If you the word "nazi" is to strong then you don't understand what countries like china would do to the internet if they got their hands on it.
To: postaldave
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posted on
10/13/2005 3:09:50 PM PDT
by
dennisw
(You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
To: postaldave
Ok. Let it split. We keep the conservative sites such as FR. They can have the socialist/communist/homosexual/child porn/all other porn/liberal sites. That means we have the good stuff and they have the garbage.
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posted on
10/13/2005 3:11:01 PM PDT
by
RetiredArmy
(All democrats are ENEMIES of the Republic!)
To: postaldave
The internet can't be controlled (by anyone). Darpa designed it to withstand nuclear war. The internet views censorship as damage, and routes around it.
/john
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posted on
10/13/2005 3:11:26 PM PDT
by
JRandomFreeper
(D@mit! I'm just a cook. Don't make me come over there and prove it!)
To: postaldave
RockinRight to UN and China:
Bite Me. You can have my internet when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.
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posted on
10/13/2005 3:11:35 PM PDT
by
RockinRight
(I am beginning to think conservatism is buried somewhere under New Orleans mud...)
To: postaldave
Let them split it. I bet world commerce will trust US services better than say Russia's.
To: postaldave
The European commission is warning that if a deal cannot be reached at a meeting in Tunisia next month the internet will split apart.Excellent! That's exactly what they should do. Let them build their own Internet and shut the $#@% up!
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posted on
10/13/2005 3:12:38 PM PDT
by
AntiGuv
(™)
To: postaldave
I don't have the exact figures, but probably 90% of the internet is American. If the Euros want to fence themselves off in the own little ghetto, so be it. The last thing we need is a bunch of left-wing bureaucrats running things from Brussells and Beijing.
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posted on
10/13/2005 3:13:13 PM PDT
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: postaldave
Viviane Reding, European IT commissioner, says that if a multilateral approach cannot be agreed, countries such as China, Russia, Brazil and some Arab states could start operating their own versions of the internet and the ubiquity that has made it such a success will disappear. In other words, if we don't "share" control (meaning appease them UN style) over what WE invented, then they'll stop participating and go invent their own, right? And the problem with this is????????
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posted on
10/13/2005 3:13:13 PM PDT
by
Vigilanteman
(crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
To: postaldave
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posted on
10/13/2005 3:14:12 PM PDT
by
socal_parrot
(Fear the monkey.)
To: postaldave
fine. Let it split.
They will find out that network outages, dead birds, routers, squirrels on power lines, power poles getting nailed by cars, etc can play absolute hell with a network.
Anyone want to bet on them doing this stupid split and then blaming the US when it doesn't work??
To: postaldave
No one is talking about it because it isn't going to happen. The US has too much reliance on the Internet for internal business use to allow any level of control to be turned over to the UN. Some nations are just looking for another reason to bash the US when we don't release the Internet to the UN. We offered them Al Gore but they just laughed.
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posted on
10/13/2005 3:14:49 PM PDT
by
Ben Mugged
(Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil. - Thomas Mann)
To: RetiredArmy
i'm with you, we would be better off splitting it then hand over control to them.
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posted on
10/13/2005 3:15:07 PM PDT
by
postaldave
(i've given up on being mad in exchange for bitter sarcasm.)
To: postaldave
If the Internet did split, would that mean that we in US would not have access to the news in China, EU, etc?
To: postaldave
Viviane Reding, European IT commissioner, says that if a multilateral approach cannot be agreed, countries such as China, Russia, Brazil and some Arab states could start operating their own versions of the internet and the ubiquity that has made it such a success will disappearLet them.
They need us far more than we need them.
To: postaldave
They need to open discussions with Gore.
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posted on
10/13/2005 3:16:53 PM PDT
by
mtbopfuyn
(Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
To: postaldave
"EU says internet could fall apart""Arsonist says buiding may burn down."
Talk about complaining about the consequences of one's onw actions!
Patient: "It hurts when I do that."
Doctor: "Then don't do that."
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posted on
10/13/2005 3:16:53 PM PDT
by
sourcery
(Givernment: The way the average voter spells "government.")
To: postaldave
Thank God Jimmy Carter isn't president.
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posted on
10/13/2005 3:17:06 PM PDT
by
Mulch
(tm)
To: Vigilanteman
Domain names, and DNS interfaces, are the problems.
In other words, they would CLONE their "version" of an internet, not split off part of it.
You know what happens when you have to install an upgrade to a software program, right? The ability to talk with another internet would become the mother of all upgrades.
To: socal_parrot
where on earth did you find that site? LMAO!!!
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posted on
10/13/2005 3:17:12 PM PDT
by
postaldave
(i've given up on being mad in exchange for bitter sarcasm.)
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