Posted on 06/08/2005 4:41:38 AM PDT by echoBoomer
JERUSALEM (Reuters) - An Israeli researcher has challenged the popular belief that Jesus died of blood loss on the cross, saying he probably succumbed to a sometimes fatal disorder now associated with long-haul air travel.
Professor Benjamin Brenner wrote in The Journal of Thrombosis and Haemostasis that Jesus's death, traditionally believed to have occurred 3-6 hours after crucifixion began, was probably caused by a blood clot that reached his lungs.
Such pulmonary embolisms, leading to sudden death, can stem from immobilisation, multiple trauma and dehydration, said Brenner, a researcher at Rambam Medical Center in Haifa.
"This fits well with Jesus's condition and actually was in all likelihood the major cause of death by crucifixion," he wrote in the article, based on religious and medical texts.
A 1986 study in the Journal of the American Medical Association mentioned the possibility that Jesus suffered a blood clot but concluded that he died of blood loss.
But Brenner said research into blood coagulation had made significant strides over the past two decades.
He said recent medical research has linked immobility among passengers on lengthy air flights to deep vein thrombosis, popularly known as "economy-class syndrome" in which potentially fatal blood clots can develop, usually in the lower legs.
Brenner noted that before crucifixion, Jesus underwent scourging, but the researcher concluded that "the amount of blood loss by itself" would not have killed him.
He said that Jesus, as a Jew from what is now northern Israel, may have been particular at risk to a fatal blood clot.
Thrombophilia, a rare condition in which blood has an increased tendency to clot, is common to natives of the Galilee, the researcher wrote.
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I don't remember everybody I meet on here, so I don't really recall our past run-ins.
Have a good evening in any case.
I guess the scientific method in medical schools has succombed to mere hypothesis. After all, nothing says "science" like wild-ass conjecture!
I guess the scientific method in medical schools has succombed to mere hypothesis.
After all, nothing says "science" like wild-ass conjecture!
My favorite part of that movie is when
Chief finally talks!!
' LOL! I like the fishing trip.
Now you've gone and made me want to see it AGAIN!!
But I should remind you that I am one of the "daughters of the Canaanites". There's all sorts of biblical warnings about our wiles. ;)
True story.
About 7 years ago, I was walking into my banch (in LA), and I overheard some guy with this incredibly whiny, but vaguely familiar sounding, voice saying, "No, I want to close my account NOW!"
I turned, did a double-take, and lo and behold it was the actor who played Cheswick! You remember, the "I want my cigarettes NOW" guy! And he sounded just like the character he played!
Whoops. That's supposed to be "bank", not "banch".
That is an invitation, an instruction on how to be saved. The elect will hear it and understand and be saved. The unelect will see that and see it as foolishness.
Epesians 1: 3 Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ. 4 For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love 5 he predestined us to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will— 6 to the praise of his glorious grace, which he has freely given us in the One he loves. 7 In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace 8 that he lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding. 9 And he made known to us the mystery of his will according to his good pleasure, which he purposed in Christ, 10 to be put into effect when the times will have reached their fulfillment—to bring all things in heaven and on earth together under one head, even Christ. 11 In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will, 12 in order that we, who were the first to hope in Christ, might be for the praise of his glory.
And while we're at it, you are being quite judgemental yourself. Why not get your Catholic friends in line, or is it just open season on Proddies?
There is no "degree" of sin. A lie gets the same punishment (hell) as genocide or adultery.
The reprobate is judged on his sin. the elect are judged on their faith.
Scripture to back up this statement, please.
What is sin and how does this relate to the idea of a God with an unthwartable will?
SD
"The unelect will see that and see it as foolishness"
I accept predestination to heaven, for some.
However, my question is about double predestination. That is, God creating people with no chance of salvation. God knows what we will do. He knows many will not hear.
But did God create people who have no chance of salvation? Create them for the purpose of sending them to hell?
Are you suggesting that God is in Heaven wringing his hands hoping we will be good little people and that everything will work out in the end?
I believe your personal faith is quite real and heartfelt. I just don't accept the tenets of Calvinism.
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