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To: Modernman
***Why would God reward people for having faith that he had pre-destined them to have? They did not choose to be faithful, so what's the point of rewarding them for it?***

Sigh,

We all have free will. The reprobate will always choose to rebel against God. The degree of the rebellion is the only variable.

Once born again (which the Holy Spirit brings about) the elect sees their sin for what it is. They then begin to live in faith, which is what pleases God.

The reprobate is judged on his sin. the elect are judged on their faith.
414 posted on 06/09/2005 3:37:53 AM PDT by Gamecock (We don't beat "nice" people to a bloody pulp, nail them onto a cross and then watch them suffocate.)
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To: Gamecock
The degree of the rebellion is the only variable.

There is no "degree" of sin. A lie gets the same punishment (hell) as genocide or adultery.

The reprobate is judged on his sin. the elect are judged on their faith.

Scripture to back up this statement, please.

415 posted on 06/09/2005 5:33:39 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Gamecock
The reprobate is judged on his sin.

What is sin and how does this relate to the idea of a God with an unthwartable will?

SD

416 posted on 06/09/2005 6:48:22 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Gamecock
We all have free will. The reprobate will always choose to rebel against God. The degree of the rebellion is the only variable.

Not according to Calvinism. The elect are saved and will live a Godly life, the non-elect are not saved, never have the spirit enter them and are destined to live an ungodly life.

424 posted on 06/09/2005 8:25:07 AM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
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