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Another little John Kerry Vietnam story. See if you can detect why it's another Kerry lie.
humaneusa.org ^ | 9/13/2004 | Jim Curtis

Posted on 08/13/2004 7:18:34 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis

Do you have any pets that have made an impact on you personally? Kerry: I have always had pets in my life and there are a few that I remember very fondly. When I was serving on a swiftboat in Vietnam, my crewmates and I had a dog we called VC. We all took care of him, and he stayed with us and loved riding on the swiftboat deck. I think he provided all of us with a link to home and a few moments of peace and tranquility during a dangerous time. One day as our swiftboat was heading up a river, a mine exploded hard under our boat. After picking ourselves up, we discovered VC was MIA. Several minutes of frantic search followed after which we thought we'd lost him. We were relieved when another boat called asking if we were missing a dog. It turns out VC was catapulted from the deck of our boat and landed confused, but unhurt, on the deck of another boat in our patrol.


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To: jigsaw

The dog's name was Teresa......

That's another dog story. That dog is from Pittsburgh, not Vietnam.


221 posted on 08/15/2004 7:32:14 AM PDT by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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To: Baynative

Do you think the Hillary & Co. may have an October surprise planned for Bush or Kerry?


224 posted on 08/15/2004 8:09:14 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: MojoWire

Well, you see, the dog served with Kerry before ....BOOM!....he didn't serve with Kerry.


226 posted on 08/15/2004 8:52:15 AM PDT by WSGilcrest (jus' one of them racin' deals, i guess)
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To: G-Bob

Talking Heads

Road to Nowhere

WELL WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOIN'
BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'VE BEEN
AND WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE KNOWIN'
BUT WE CAN'T SAY WHAT WE'VE SEEN
AND WE'RE NOT LITTLE CHILDREN
AND WE KNOW WHAT WE WANT
AND THE FUTURE IS CERTAIN
GIVE US TIME TO WORK IT OUT

We're on a road to nowhere
Come on inside
Takin' that ride to nowhere
We'll take that ride

Feelin' okay this mornin'
And you know,
We're on the road to paradise
Here we go, here we go

We're on a ride to nowhere
Come on inside
Takin' that ride to nowhere
We'll take that ride

Maybe you wonder where you are
I don't care
Here is where time is on our side
Take you there...take you there

We're on a road to nowhere
We're on a road to nowhere
We're on a road to nowhere

There's a city in my mind
Come along and take that ride
and it's all right, baby, it's all right

And it's very far away
But it's growing day by day
And it's all right, baby, it's all right

Would you like to come along
and you could help me sing this song?
And it's all right, baby, it's all right

They can tell you what to do
But they'll make a fool of you
And it's all right, baby, it's all right
[x2]

We're on a road to nowhere


227 posted on 08/15/2004 10:22:29 AM PDT by sully777 (Our descendants will be enslaved by political expediency and expenditure)
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To: G-Bob
Your concern has materialized ...

Records Counter a Critic of Kerry <-- Link

Thurlow's Bronze Star citation mentions enemy small arms fire.

228 posted on 08/19/2004 4:24:14 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

This was exactly what I was worried about. If there was a legitimate explanation they should have had it out there from the beginning.


229 posted on 08/19/2004 8:51:24 AM PDT by G-Bob
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To: G-Bob
This was exactly what I was worried about. If there was a legitimate explanation they should have had it out there from the beginning.

That would certainly have reduced the credibility impact against Thurlow and by implication, SBVFT. At the same time, leaving an opening for the media, bait if you will, the complete story is more likely to make national prominence.

Perhaps a good explanation will be forthcoming, I don't know. The recommendation for Thurlow's Bronze Star medal was approved in June 1969, some months after the incident, and perhaps he "blew off" what it said, since Kerry was gone from his life. But Thurlow did not put himself in, so didn't "lie" to get the award. At worst he is to be faulted for not raising a ruckus and attempting to return it when he received it and the citation letter.

And, even if Thurlow is tarred, that doesn't mean Kerry shouldn't be tarred, even worse IMO for recommending an award with materially inaccurate testimony.

230 posted on 08/19/2004 10:07:43 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Jim_Curtis
VC surfaces

"A new four-legged angle — actually a dog named "VC" — has suddenly materialized surrounding Sen. John Kerry's swift boat service in Vietnam. In a 2004 presidential candidate questionnaire for Humane USA, Mr. Kerry was asked whether any pets have had an impact on his life. "I have always had pets in my life, and there are a few that I remember very fondly," Mr. Kerry replied. "When I was serving on a Swift Boat in Vietnam, my crewmates and I had a dog we called VC. "One day as our Swift Boat was heading up a river, a mine exploded hard under our boat," he continued. "After picking ourselves up, we discovered VC was MIA (missing in action). Several minutes of frantic search followed, after which we thought we'd lost him. We were relieved when another boat called asking if we were missing a dog." Said Mr. Kerry: "It turns out VC was catapulted from the deck of our boat and landed, confused but unhurt, on the deck of another boat in our patrol." J.J. Scheele, program director of Humane USA, confirmed yesterday that her organization did, in fact, receive the above statement from the Kerry campaign. No military records on Mr. Kerry's Web site, which aides say is a complete accounting, mention a mine exploding under his boat or any dog. The only report of a mine detonating "near" Mr. Kerry's PCF 94 was March 13, 1969, when Mr. Kerry says he was injured and a man knocked overboard."

231 posted on 08/25/2004 7:30:40 AM PDT by spycatcher
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To: G-Bob
John Kerry is the biggest and worst liar that I have ever seen.This is the guy the sick fools in the media want in charge of our country?I don't understand their thinking.One of the main qualifications for becoming the democratic nominee is being a serial liar who makes outrageous claims.They choose the candidate who tells the most unbelievable lies.This is another blatant lie that the media will ignore.I would email it to Bill O'Blowhard but I won't waste my time.
232 posted on 08/25/2004 7:39:47 PM PDT by rdcorso
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To: Baynative; neverdem; Congressman Billybob
"...Why is John "Frenchie" Kerry willing to take all of this abuse and ridicule over his faked war experience and service record? My guess is there is something really big in his past that he is happy no one is stumbling on while we harp away at something that doesn't even matter to his faithful dems and uneducated undecideds.

Nope.

Kerry has noting else EXCEPT Vietnam, and is obsessed (almost irrationally/psychotically ?) with HIS OWN distorted and irrational view of Vietnam.

To the point of building a "shrine" in his Senate office of his medals, of getting his citation re-signed 15 YEARS after Vietnam by Lehman, of getting his DD214 modified in 2001 to add EVEN MORE decorations to his chest, to adding EVERY TIME a more "cute stories" like this in answer to EVERY personal description ...

Does that sound "healthy" to you?

233 posted on 08/25/2004 7:49:31 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!))
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To: MojoWire; Jim_Curtis
Well duh!

How could the dog claim to serve ON Kerry's boat iffen it was gettin' launched OFF Kerry's boat every time Kerry's boat hit a mine?

Hell! If I were Kerry's crewman I'D worry about more about falling OFF Kerry's boat than servin' ON Kerry's boat: Seems like everybody else kept fallin' OFF his boat evry time he turned around..

234 posted on 08/25/2004 7:53:49 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!))
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To: Cboldt

Several hundred yards away??????

And THAT'S where Kerry claims Rassmun was in the water (when he turned around to get him?


235 posted on 08/25/2004 7:58:33 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!))
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Several hundred yards away??????
And THAT'S where Kerry claims Rassmun was in the water (when he turned around to get him?

Kerry and Rassmann have quite a few different versions for the events of that day. Rassmann was in the water for several minutes, and in one account, says he saw Kerry's boat returning "from around the bend." Also, there is no evidence that Kerry's boat hit a mine. PCF-3 hit a mine, and was damaged badly enough as a result that it had to be towed back to port. PCF-94, Kerry's boat, did the towing that day.

Here is a good post, in a good thread re: the many incarnations of the Bronze Star incident:
Bronze Star <-- But check the whole thread

There are other threads that cover the same subject, including one that dissects the Washington Post story (the story with the graphic, that fails to mention ZERO bullet holes, and the one hour+ time on scene).

To your narrow point about several hundred yards, the MINIMUM distance between the boats would have them immediately opposite each other in the 75 yard wide channel. I'd say a fair minimum distance is 50 yards. But the dog story is pure, unadulterated BS.

236 posted on 08/26/2004 3:58:08 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Jim_Curtis
To my knowledge, Kerry's boat never took a direct hit except for a few grains of self inflicted rice.

I would think that a swift boat taking a direct hard hit as a result of a mine would have at least disabled it and at worst destroyed and sunk it.

237 posted on 08/26/2004 4:07:57 AM PDT by slimer ("The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato)
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To: slimer

John Kerry will be elected President when dogs fly.


238 posted on 08/26/2004 10:46:58 AM PDT by spycatcher
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To: spycatcher

Well, I've heard of a "shaggy dog story" before, but that's just ridiculous! God help us all if this pathological liar gets into the White House.


239 posted on 08/27/2004 5:23:54 AM PDT by CavalierX (http://guardian.blogdrive.com - Cavalier's Guardian WatchBlog)
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To: Jim_Curtis
What was a dog doing on a Swift boat patrol in the first place when one bark could betray a position and get lots of men killed?

Leni

240 posted on 08/27/2004 5:37:29 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Stop Global Whining)
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