Voters need to hear John Kerry's own traitorous words from 1971 indicting and convicting all other officers and troops except himself and see how he has not really changed at all:
[still being a tad edited]:
http://pro.lookingat.us/KerryReunion.html
Posted on 08/11/2004 10:35:19 PM PDT by The Shrew
We know that the Dems are planning to continue to politically attack the president. They are using their 527's to spend in excess of $400 million dollars to attack the President. They are also vigorously attacking the SwiftVets using Legal Terrorism
This is the Big Time, Freepers. This is the time when WE must step up and support. This is not yet the march in the streets we did in Florida and outside of Dick Cheney's house in 2000. This is a battle where the mainstream media are taking their marching orders directly from the DNC. They are going to crush this story; they are attacking the SwiftVets and their supporters.
Death threats, intimidation, email viruses and Denial-of-Service attacks against the Vets and their site are just the tip of the iceberg. It is going to get worse. Remember the Clinton Slime Machine? Therrrrrrre back!
Here is a summary of the attacks from James Hirsen ofThe Left Coast Reports
1. New Attack on Swift Boat Veterans
Top dog Democrats such as DNC ringleader Terry McAuliffe and Sen. Tom Harkin have publicly embraced Michael Moore's factually challenged waste of celluloid.
John Kerry recently used Moore-generated scenes to smear the president.
But curiously, when more than 200 decorated veterans created a one-minute TV spot expressing their views on the Dem candidate's war record, McAuliffe, DNC and buds squealed for the White House to declare war on these "partisan liars."
Sources indicate that a character assassination campaign is planned against Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, timed for the release of the book "Unfit for Command."
A preliminary counterattack has already begun. It is taking the form of an e-mail campaign titled "Swift Boat Vets are Dishonest, Dishonorable, Unpatriotic Liars," and comes from a group that calls itself the "Patriotic Veterans for Truth."
David Brock's Web site asks, "Who is Jerome Corsi, co-author of Swift Boat Vets attack book?" as it slimes Corsi with cherry-picked quotes that are taken out of context.
The Left Coast Report says, once again, the libs' slogan appears to be, 'Don't let the facts get in the way of attacks.'
Here is a thread focusing on Talking Points. I like Bob J's effort and want to link it to reemphasize that this Freeper Effort is about what we say and write to the media - not what the SwiftVets say and write to the media. Theirs is First Hand experience. They talk with a different legal level of authority than we - or Lanny Davis - speaks. Our mission here is to develop Freeper Answers for Letters to the Editor and talking points for Radio Talk Shows and other call in shows.
If you do nothing else, write or say "I support the Swift Boat Veterans. They have paid for their right to speak out on their experience in Vietnam with their service and their blood. They have every much a right to speak about their experience in Vietnam and with John Kerry as Senator Kerry does."
It is important to not overstate your case. I urge every Freeper to read the websites SwiftVets.com and WinterSoldier.com It is vitally important that we KNOW and understand the facts of this case. If you don't know - don't pretend that you know. Just state: "I support the Swift Boat Vets at SwiftVets.com" That is much better than stating something that is false or not current and then having your incorrect fact detract from your support.
What is all the fuss about? John O'Neill and Dr. Jerome Corsi have written a book titled: "Unfit for Command". Unfit for Command
This book details John Kerry's contemporaries in Vietnam and their experiences that relate to Kerry and his four and a half month service in Vietnam. It is a well researched personal testimony.
Consider these talking points:
1. The Swift Boat Veteran's have earned the right to tell their story.
2. John Kerry featured these same veteran's in his campaign literature even after 11 of them asked him to stop.
3. These men served close enough to John Kerry when he was using their photo for the last year in his campaign to describe his "Band of Brothers". Why is it now they were too far away to notice what he did?
4. John O'Neill - the primary author of "Unfit for Command" is giving any proceeds of royalties for his share of the book to Navy Relief.
5. These boats served in close proximity to one another - perhaps 5 - 25 yards. The enlisted men berthed, ate, slept and worked in close proximity. The officers worked, berthed, ate and slept in the same quarters. They knew John Kerry as well as anyone. It is his conduct out of the boats as well as his combat conduct that these men testify to. How he took his orders, how he carried out his orders, how he dealt with his peers and then how he commanded the men who served on his boat. These are all valid questions to ask a candidate for the office of Commander in Chief.
6. One member of the Swift Boat Veteran's served on Kerry's boat - Steve Gardner. "My name is Steve Gardner. I served in 1966 and 1967 on my first tour of duty in Vietnam on Swift boats, and I did my second tour in '68 and '69, involved with John Kerry in the last 2 1/2 months of my tour. The John Kerry that I know is not the John Kerry that everybody else is portraying. I served alongside him and behind him, five feet away from him in a gun tub, and watched as he made indecisive moves with our boat, put our boats in jeopardy, put our crews in jeopardy... if a man like that can't handle that 6-man crew boat, how can you expect him to be our Commander-in-Chief?" --Steven Gardner
7. How can a "seared" memory be a mistaken recollection? It's not. It's a lie. It was a lie in 1986, it was a lie in 1992. It's a lie today. Both the intial searing and the current recollection. Ergo - John Kerry is a liar.Kerry "Corrects Record," "Seared" Memory of Christmas in Cambodia Now "Mistaken Recollection" (Thanks to Egon)
8.Main anti-swift tactic now seems to be Corsi comments. Response? "Jesse Jackson called New York 'hymietown'. Does that invalidate the civil rights movement?" by Truecons. Sadly, a Freeper is the one who released this info to the other side. Let's hope this is the end of this. (Not Truecons.) Dr. Corsi is a Harvard trained historian. His qualifications are impeccable and this is a further example of the left attacking the messenger.
I'm not pretending to be an expert - if you have other suggestions, threads, links, etc. please post them here. We have lots and lots of "Guests" these days - demonstrate for them Internet Grassroots activism at its best!
I personally will be celebrating when mid-November rolls around and Hanoi John is defeated, the elections are over and the campaign BS is off the air - but then I’ll have to put up with the democrats whining about another “stolen” election.
I don't understand this part.
Who is "corsi" and "trucons" and what was said or done that makes it part of an anti-swift comment?
So, I am looking for some additional/new good talking points.
Much has been made of the fact that Kerry volunteered, although I know upon graduation Kerry first requested a deferment which was declined. I volunteered (ROTC) for the Army. I remember when I arrived in country, everyone said whatever you do, don't go to the (First) Cav. Soooo, when I got the 1st Cav, they said whatever you do, don't go to the 1/9th. So when I got to the First of the Ninth. . .
Anyway volunteering for the Navy would seem to have been safer than volunteering for the Army. I know Kerry first spent sometime offshore on a guided missile frigate in the Gulf of Tonkin. I remember reading somewhere that Kerry's first job was supervisoring deck crews stripping paint (or some other boring, unpleasant jobs) and that to avoid this he volunteered for swift boats which up until the time he volunteered had not been used in combat, but rather to deliver smail and supplies so it seemed like a good option, but that right after he volunteered, much to Kerry's surprise as he thought he was going to be the officer in charge of a small (pleasure) yacht, their mission changed putting them into heavy combat. Is this correct? Anyone know where to find more info on this?
Also, I understand just after Kerry chased and shot a wounded enemy solider in the back, he then went to the PX and bought a camera to go back and recreate and film it for later use in his political campaigns. I am not familiar with Navy/Marine uniforms, but again I remember reading that the uniform in this homemade movie was that of a Marine officer uniform that he was not authorized to wear. Is this correct? (Impersonating an officer is a serious offense although I suppose this will not matter to the general voting public (but perhaps it will to some Veterans.)
The issue of Kerry wearing a Marine Uniform is a new one to me, but I've heard it now a few times in the last few days. However, I watch very little TV, and last night I saw footage of Kerry in green fatigues, a combat helmet, and perhaps an M-16 (?). I'm sure of the green fatigues and helmet. It struck me as really odd because that is not a naval uniform. Perhaps it had been in Vietnam, but I sure don't remember it having been.
It certainly would have been a Marine uniform, however.
The only shows I watched last night were O'Reilly (11 PM) and Brit Hume (12 AM)....odds are that was where I saw the footage, unless I channel-surfed at a commercial.
Talking Points for Freepers Re:
Swift Boat Veterans for Truth - www.SwiftVets.com People please ping this thread out to your ping list.Lets help The Shrew to help the Swiftboat Vets.
Sure thing, Grampa! Thanks.
My thanks to Traumer, Arrowhead1952 and Conspiracy Guy for the concept of the above pic
Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my General Interest ping list!. . .don't be shy.
Great work here Shrew!
Bump
You guys are such studs!haha! Thanks. :^D
Just so we'll have it on this thread .....John Kerry wrote his Review for "Apocalypse Now" on Oct 14, 1979 in the Boston Herald.
Here is the article in JPG format.
Thank you, thank you FreeRepublic.com !
More stuff related to Kerry's 'service' and other BS .....
Watch this TV AD!
Swiftvets who served with John Kerry talk about
UNFIT, DISHONEST John Kerry
DRUDGE:ANTI-KERRY VETS GATHER FOR ASSAULT;
BOOK CLAIMS KERRY WAR 'FABRICATIONS'
Excellent anti-Kerry video laying out the VietNam case against him...
Great to forward and spread to the public.
http://www.stopjohn.com/movies/hanoi-john.htm
Drudge 08-08-2004
Exclusive: Swift Officers and Vets:
Kerry lied about spending Christmas in CambodiaKerry: I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by the Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the president of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia. I have that memory which is seared--seared--in me.
DRUDGE has learned from the accounts of Swift Boat officers and Kerry’s crewmembers that Kerry was never in Cambodia. UNFIT FOR COMMAND authors charge that Kerry made it all up.
“Despite the dramatic memories of his Christmas in Cambodia, Kerry’s statements are complete lies,” according to John O’Neil, co-author and the Swift Boat commander who took over Kerry’s boat. “Kerry was never in Cambodia during Christmas 1968, or at all during the Vietnam War. . . . he was more than fifty miles away from Cambodia.”
Kerry was stationed at Coastal Division 13 in Cat Lo. Coastal Division 13’s patrol areas extended to Sa Dec, about 55 miles from the Cambodian border. . . . Tom Anderson, Commander of River Division 531, who was in charge of PBRs (small river patrol crafts] confirmed that there were no Swifts anywhere in the area and they would have been stopped had they appeared.
All the living commanders in Kerry’s chain of command . . . deny that Kerry was ever ordered to Cambodia. They indicate that Kerry would have been seriously disciplined or court-martialed had he gone there. At least three of the five crewmen on Kerry’s boat, Bill Zaldonis, Steven Hatch, and Steve Gardner, deny that they or their boat were ever in Cambodia.
Kerry Fitness Reports in Vietnam Show Him Unfit for Command
(Explodes Central Kerry Campaign Lie)
Kerry’s FITREPs are awash in dings, and some of the reports border on the adverse, particularly his combat FITREPs. The FITREPs convey significant performance problems and suggest problems in conduct, so much so that it is surprising that the campaign chose to release them. This may suggest that the FITREPs held from public view are even more adverse.
In what would customarily be an opportunity for a glowing “swan song” FITREP, the Commanding Officer of USS Gridley (DLG-21) tacitly blasts Kerry on his departure for Swift Boat duty by ranking him significantly below the norm in desirability for virtually every Navy assignment possible -– command, staff, whatever. He is a ship handler who is dinged in ship handling. He is in line for command, but his CO doesn’t want him near the bridge. He is slammed in all performance areas –- most notably and significantly in initiative and reliability. The “nice” narrative emphasizes performance in collateral duties, but in the grades and marks, the CO is telling the selection board and detailer loud and clear that this officer is lazy, unreliable and not suited for command. 3 SEP 68 (W.E. HARPER).
should read "..... and other KERRY BS". Kerry is such a lying jerk !
Good morning Ed.
Bumping for donations to the Swift Boat Vet funds.
Donations to keep their tv ads going is as important as with our donations to Free Republic and to re elect GW.
Thanks Meek.
That movie review is like a giant newspaper rolled up to swat the critters of Komrade Kerry's Kerrorists/aka Lannie Davis and his boy friends, who are trying to smear these honorable vets.
Beautiful!
The TRUTH always prevails.
God Bless these vets for the heat they are going to take. I just ask God to protect and give them strength.
The left is desperate and they are falling apart daily.
The Good guys always wins in the end.
Looks like the DNC will regret messing with a Freeper! Ha ha. Good work you guys, you are awewome!
Good Morning Dave!
I'm sending another donation tomorrow.
Did you see the link I Freepmailed you?
Now, if we can get several thousand freepers to donate to the Swiftboat Vets funds to buy more tv ads, that will be another sharp stick in the maggot eyes of those monitoring FR.
Write me one and I will send it to our local paper
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