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CRITICAL - The Devastating "Swift Boat Vets" Ad Must Stay on Television Until the Election!
Swift Boat Vets ^ | 8-4-04 | Bob J

Posted on 08/04/2004 5:40:42 PM PDT by Bob J

This is the type of commercial the pubs should be running, but won't.
It's devastating for Kerry and shows him to be the lying, cowardly traitor that he is.

WE FREEPERS NEED TO DO OUR PART TO MAKE SURE IT STAYS ON THE AIR UNTIL THE ELECTION!

Click here to view the video!



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To: conshack; nutmeg; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; JulieRNR21; patriciaruth
I'm a Nam vet that got to experience the joys of coming home from a war zone in 1971(after John Kerry did his treasonous acts) to be branded as a baby killer and getting my A$$ whooped by some folks in a bar that believed what Kerry had said and for defending the fact that I wasn't. The pain from that whooping has long since gone, but the memory of it hasn't.

I have made my contribution to the Swift Boat Vets in appreciation of your service and for the thousands of Vietnam veterans who served honorably but were grievously wronged by Kerry's lies.

I hope that with this ad and book (on order) the truth will come out and all Vietnam veterans will be held in the high esteem and honor they deserve.

461 posted on 08/05/2004 9:49:56 AM PDT by RottiBiz (Help end Freepathons -- become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: hoosiermama

Got through to McCain's Tucson office. Very nice female listened to my concerns about McCain using words like "dishonest" regarding this group.

I pointed to the May press conference the group held where they declared themselves as non-partisan and not affiliated with the Republicans. Their concern was John Kerry being put forth as the dem nominee and they find him "unfit" and that is their concern, not partisan "dirty tricks".

I said I was dismayed that McCain would so hastily imply there might be Republicans pushing the men forward. I said I watched the May press conference and I have seen the ad on the internet. I said these men had eyewitness stories to tell and that they were Vietnam Vets, too, just like John Kerry and Senator McCain and they deserved the respect and chance to have their voices heard. I added that I found the men serious and credible.

Finally I said it is frustrating to see attack after attack on GWB from Moore, Clarke, Wilson and so on, with charges that time after time turn out to be false, and I don't see Senator McCain stepping forward to as vociferously denounce those. I did say I was sure the media ran like the wind to get comment from him on this as it was about "Vietnam" and I would like him to step back and not be so quick to denounce or use words like "dishonest" when to what I can see these men appear to have something to say that looks to be true.

She was nice and took my name and address. I'm sure I will receive the usual form letter thanking me for calling. I did ask if she'd heard about the ad and received other calls. She said yes, she'd received about 4 calls.


462 posted on 08/05/2004 9:50:54 AM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: Bob J

Thanks for starting this thread!

$100 contribution to Swift Boat Vets made.


463 posted on 08/05/2004 9:59:17 AM PDT by RottiBiz (Help end Freepathons -- become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: upcountry miss

My bad. It was not his brother in law, but, his good friend, George Butler-who I believe helped produce Kerry's DNC video.

" The Long War of John Kerry, " Joe Klein, the New Yorker, 2002

" By all accounts, the loss was devastating.
It was the first deviation from the career trajectory he had imagined for himself in prep school.
"He came to my home in New Hampshire that weekend," his friend George Butler, a documentary filmmaker who was then a freelance photographer, recalls.
"He wouldn't say a word to anyone. He sat there Friday night and built an entire model ship from scratch.
On Saturday, he and I climbed a mountain together.
He still wasn't talking...
He was the most despondent-looking human being I had ever seen."

We have no idea how long his muteness and withdrawal lasted or if it was part of a pattern. I'd bet money on the latter.


464 posted on 08/05/2004 10:08:49 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: RottiBiz

Rush just re-played ad.

*Says some libs are on hold.

He'll be talking to them shortly.


465 posted on 08/05/2004 10:10:07 AM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: cyncooper

Got through...TOld her I was from Indiana but had seen the AP story. Was concerned that McCain had taken this position....TOld her I'd been following this stsory since spring when they had their press release....how it was a bi-partisan group and how difficult it was for some of them to speak....

That they were truly heroes for using their first amendment rights and speaking up now was their patriotic duty....They had tried to be heard before the conventions no one was listening........

That McCain needed to sit down and talk with this group before he opened his mouth in judgment. Was EXTREMELY disappointed in him.

Form letter expected.


466 posted on 08/05/2004 10:13:24 AM PDT by hoosiermama (19 five * meals for $200---"The sKerry-- Real Meal Deal")
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To: All
type in http://www.swiftboatvets.com and a SALON hit piece against veterans pops up.

The unity of the Left means the VETS HIT A NERVE!

way to go!

This is the old article excerpt that is liked by the left

Smear Boat Veterans for Bush
The "swift boat" veterans attacking John Kerry's war record are led by veteran right-wing operatives using the same vicious techniques they used against John McCain four years ago.

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By Joe Conason

May 4, 2004 |

The latest conservative outfit to fire an angry broadside against John Kerry's heroic war record is "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth" , which today launches a campaign to brand the Democrat "unfit to serve as commander in chief." Billing itself as representing the "other 97 percent of veterans" from Kerry's Navy unit who don't support his presidential candidacy, the group insists that all presidential candidates must be "totally honest and forthcoming" about their military service.

These "swift boat vets" claim still to be furious about Kerry's 1971 Senate testimony against the war in which he spoke about atrocities in Indochina's "free fire zones." More than three decades later, facing the complicated truth about Vietnam remains difficult. But this group's political connections make clear that its agenda is to target the election of 2004.

Behind the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth are veteran corporate media consultant and Texas Republican activist Merrie Spaeth, who is listed as the group's media contact; eternal Kerry antagonist and Dallas attorney John E. O'Neill, law partner of Spaeth's late husband, Tex Lezar; and retired Rear Adm. Roy Hoffman, a cigar-chomping former Vietnam commander once described as "the classic body-count guy" who "wanted hooches destroyed and people killed."



467 posted on 08/05/2004 10:20:20 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Bob J
Devestating commercial.

The only way Kerry could recover from that ad is if the election is rigged.

468 posted on 08/05/2004 10:22:10 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: hoosiermama

Excellent.


469 posted on 08/05/2004 10:28:39 AM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Rush is now going to play excerpts of the press behavior toward Scott McClellan back when the issue of GWB's national guard service was resurrected.

Playing now.

(obviously to illustrate what the press DOES consider important and "newsworthy" and that they ARE willing to question the service of a public official)

I watched this thing when it took place back in February. We called them rabid jackals.


470 posted on 08/05/2004 10:38:08 AM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: cyncooper

How did you like the statement Rush read by Admiral Hoffman of the Swift Boat Vets in response to McCain's criticism?

Powerful stuff!!!!

Ended with "We served with John Kerry and you did not!"


471 posted on 08/05/2004 11:00:13 AM PDT by RottiBiz (Help end Freepathons -- become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: cyncooper

Good call to McCain. You made all the right points with his staff.


472 posted on 08/05/2004 11:02:57 AM PDT by carl in alaska (I am not a digital brownshirt. I had a brown shirt once, but my dog chewed it up.)
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To: Bob J
Do the Swift Boat vets have a right to speak? Yes.

Do they have a right to be heard? Yes.

But why should we pay any special attention to them? Because John Kerry put them on stage. He's the one who stood up in front of their picture, intimating that they supported his candidacy and his account of his actions in Viet Nam.

He did so again, just last week - after having received a "cease and desist" letter from those vets, who objected to that portrayal.

John Kerry put these vets pictures on the national stage, and John Kerry who asked us to ask the vets about what they thought of him.

He has absolutely no grounds for complaint if the vets choose to express their opinion.

473 posted on 08/05/2004 11:05:47 AM PDT by jdege
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To: RottiBiz
How did you like the statement Rush read by Admiral Hoffman of the Swift Boat Vets in response to McCain's criticism?

Powerful stuff!!!!

I was very impressed, yet not surprised. These men have decided they are going to make their views known and they will not be intimidated or silenced. They are real men. Serious and patriotic men.

It buoys my spirit to see honor and decency take the stage after the noxiousness of Moore, et al in the last few weeks.

474 posted on 08/05/2004 11:15:55 AM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: carl in alaska

Thank you.


475 posted on 08/05/2004 11:18:17 AM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: montag813
"I have seen men cut off limbs, forced them to injest foie gras which had been sitting out all day, made them drink Bordeaux which had reacted to the cork..."

LOL!

476 posted on 08/05/2004 11:25:19 AM PDT by talleyman (John Kerry: The Manurian Candidate)
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To: talleyman
I first now got on line, so I haven't read this thread yet.

On the 1:00 p.m. news (radio) from ABC, they said that Scott McClennan, speaking for the President, said that the President like John McCain, is AGAINST THIS AD ABOUT KERRY by the Swift Boat Vets. !!!!!!!!!!!!!

At that point, my head blew up.....WHAT ????....and they continued to speak about the President asking the men to take it off air. (paraphrased..."He should not have to battle this...." )

Keep an ear open. If this is right, and McClennan said it...then it is DEAD IN THE WATER ! And Bush helped Kerry get it off the air and stopped the book in its tracks.

After I hit "post", I will probably wish I stayed out of this...but boy am I mad !

477 posted on 08/05/2004 11:35:59 AM PDT by Neenah
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To: Neenah

Bush obviously supports the ad, he just must say he opposes. or maybe that's just spin.


478 posted on 08/05/2004 11:42:36 AM PDT by votelife (Calling abortion a women's issue is like calling war a men's issue!)
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To: Bob J

bUMPITIY


479 posted on 08/05/2004 11:48:53 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody got a peanut.....)
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To: votelife

It can't be "spin", because they were quoting from a Press Conference.


480 posted on 08/05/2004 11:50:48 AM PDT by Neenah
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