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'It is the most exciting discovery in my 40-year career': Archaeologists uncover evidence that Neanderthals made fire 400,000 years ago in England
https://www.livescience.com/ ^ | 12/10/2025 | Kristina Killgrove

Posted on 12/10/2025 6:57:07 PM PST by bitt

Archaeologists have found the earliest evidence yet of fire technology — and it was created by Neanderthals in England more than 400,000 years ago.

Neanderthals were the world's first innovators of fire technology, tiny specks of evidence in England suggest. Flecks of pyrite found at a more than 400,000-year-old archaeological site in Suffolk, in eastern England, push back archaeologists' evidence for controlled fire-making and suggest that key human brain developments began far earlier than previously thought.

"We're a species who've used fire to really shape the world around us," study co-author Rob Davis, a Paleolithic archaeologist at the British Museum, said in a news conference on Tuesday (Dec. 9). "The ability to make fire would have been critically important" in human evolution, Davis said, "accelerating evolutionary trends" such as developing larger brains, maintaining larger social groups, and increasing language skills.

Since 2013, Davis and colleagues have been excavating an archaeological site in England called Barnham, which yielded stone tools, burnt sediment and charcoal from 400,000 years ago. In a study published Wednesday (Dec. 10) in the journal Nature, the researchers revealed that the site contained the world's earliest direct evidence of fire-making — and that this fire technology was likely pioneered by Neanderthals.

A big turning point Barnham was first recognized as a Paleolithic human site in the early 1900s due to the presence of stone tools. But recent excavations uncovered evidence of ancient human groups occupying the area more than 415,000 years ago, when Barnham was a small, seasonal watering hole in a woodland depression.

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1 posted on 12/10/2025 6:57:07 PM PST by bitt
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2 posted on 12/10/2025 6:57:29 PM PST by bitt (<IMG SRC=' 'WIDTH=500>)
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Ancient branch of man made fire. Film at eleven.... Ok.


3 posted on 12/10/2025 6:58:24 PM PST by Whatever Works
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The whole premise behind “Quest for Fire” was that Neanderthals couldn’t make fire.


4 posted on 12/10/2025 7:00:45 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: bitt
Iron pyrite plus flint equals fire starter.

But it probably happened long before.

5 posted on 12/10/2025 7:01:19 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (It's like somebody just put the Constitution up on a wall …. and shot the First Amendment -Mike Rowe)
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6 posted on 12/10/2025 7:02:09 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Telepathic Intruder
The movie was fiction.

Homo Erectus for sure and possibly before used fire. No reason Neanderthals wouldn't have done the same.

7 posted on 12/10/2025 7:02:57 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (It's like somebody just put the Constitution up on a wall …. and shot the First Amendment -Mike Rowe)
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And then immediately burned all their witches.


8 posted on 12/10/2025 7:05:36 PM PST by Bullish (My tagline ran off with another man, but it's okay... I wasn't married to it.)
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Only 400K years ago? I’d swear to have seen reports from the grooming sections of London, they were making fire in the last few years. Certainly looked like them, facial feature and teeth and all!


9 posted on 12/10/2025 7:06:33 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis )
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20,000+ generations ago.


10 posted on 12/10/2025 7:06:59 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (I have no answers. Only questions.)
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Thanks!

A vid showed up in the suggested vids tonight, but I konked out and missed most of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nlr7f9P_yo


11 posted on 12/10/2025 7:10:45 PM PST by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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Another blow to the out of africa pablum.


12 posted on 12/10/2025 7:11:13 PM PST by dennisw (There is no limit to human stupidity / )
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Thanks bitt.

13 posted on 12/10/2025 7:11:25 PM PST by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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Sacrificial Bonfire - XTC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59SM0tQvVIw


14 posted on 12/10/2025 7:13:02 PM PST by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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Nonsense. What were these “humans” doing for those 400,000 years? Playing games? With all that time, maybe they could have learned to write, yet we have no written history beyond 6,000 years. Why? Where are all the bodies? That is one hell of a long time to figure out how to procreate. And how was the date determined? It was published in the Journal Nature. Still trying to convince the world of evolution, and many are buying, believing this crap.


15 posted on 12/10/2025 7:14:29 PM PST by Fungi
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”The movie was fiction”

Are you telling me Ron Perlman isn’t a Neanderthal? Yeah, right.
16 posted on 12/10/2025 7:16:17 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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"Another blow to the out of africa pablum."

And "China was the first..."

17 posted on 12/10/2025 7:20:03 PM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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18 posted on 12/10/2025 7:46:50 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Communism and islam: failed in every country in modern history.)
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To: Fungi

“ With all that time, maybe they could have learned to write, yet we have no written history beyond 6,000 years. Why?”

Noah’s flood washed it all away.


19 posted on 12/10/2025 7:51:48 PM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH! )
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Are you telling me Ron Perlman isn’t a Neanderthal? Yeah, right.

The point goes to you my good sir.

20 posted on 12/10/2025 7:55:12 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (It's like somebody just put the Constitution up on a wall …. and shot the First Amendment -Mike Rowe)
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