Posted on 10/14/2025 11:45:40 AM PDT by ransomnote
Bondi/Patel are actively investigating Hillary Clinton's email server, and the manner in which James Comey and the FBI investigated (or didn't investigate it). Below are the Cliff's Notes version I am using to come up to speed on what the big deal was. And yes, it does seem like a big deal. I thought I'd let it soak over night before I post it as a thread tomorrow.
### Greatest Risks Involved in Hillary Clinton's Email Server Mishandling
The greatest risks from the mishandling of TOP SECRET/Special Access Program (SAP) materials on Hillary Clinton's private email server centered on potential exposure of U.S. nuclear intelligence, foreign hacks compromising national security, details of weapons programs, and missile launch data, which could endanger U.S. assets, reveal sources/methods, and aid adversaries in evading defenses.
- **Nuclear Issues and Weapons Programs**: Emails contained TOP SECRET/SAP intelligence on North Korea's nuclear weapons program, including missile launches and tests, potentially revealing U.S. surveillance capabilities and enabling North Korea to advance its arsenal undetected.
- **Hacks and Compromises**: The unsecure server faced hacking attempts from China and Russia, with suspicious activity logs suggesting possible intrusions; Russian intelligence reports referenced in unexamined evidence discussed email deletions and potential exfiltration of classified data.
- **Missile Launches and Defenses**: Discussions included U.S. warnings to "ring China with missile defense" if it failed to curb North Korea's threats, as well as SAP details on drone weapons programs in Pakistan, risking exposure of operational tactics.
- **Foreign Nations Involved**: North Korea (nuclear/missile intel), China (hacks and missile defense threats), Russia (intel reports on deletions and hacks), Pakistan (drone operations).
- **Financial Transactions Involved**: Russian-language foreign intelligence reports on thumb drives (ignored by FBI) referenced Clinton Foundation probes, implying potential links to financial dealings but unconfirmed in declassified materials.
- **Foreign Contacts**: Hacks attributed to Chinese actors embedded in a U.S. company, and Russian intel discussing Clinton's staff and DNC emails; no direct contacts confirmed, but risks from exposure.
- **Inappropriate Domestic Contacts**: Unexamined thumb drives contained Obama emails and references to Attorney General Loretta Lynch contacts, dismissed by FBI despite draft memos recommending pursuit, raising concerns of improper coordination.### Normal Handling of Confidential Materials
Under U.S. law and protocols (e.g., Executive Order 13526), TOP SECRET/SAP materials like nuclear intelligence or drone programs must be handled in secure, compartmented environments to prevent unauthorized access or compromise.
- **Secure Systems**: Transmitted only via government-approved classified networks (e.g., SIPRNet, JWICS), not private servers or unencrypted email.
- **Access Controls**: Requires "need-to-know" clearances, special "read-in" for SAPs, and storage in Secure Compartmented Information Facilities (SCIFs).
- **Marking and Transmission**: Must be clearly marked as classified; no forwarding to unsecure systems, with mandatory reporting of spills.
- **Audits and Oversight**: Regular IAEA/Intelligence Community inspections; violations lead to administrative or criminal reviews under 18 U.S.C. § 793.### Criticisms from Senators Grassley, Johnson, Nunes, and Others on DOJ's Handling
Information derived solely from critics like Senators Chuck Grassley, Ron Johnson, Devin Nunes, and administration figures highlights perceived DOJ/FBI failures in the Clinton server probe, including ignored evidence and bias.
- **Senator Chuck Grassley**: In July 2025, Grassley released declassified DOJ IG annexes showing FBI "cut corners" and exhibited "extreme lack of effort" by failing to fully search thumb drives with exfiltrated SAP data, Obama emails, and Russian intel on deletions; criticized Comey's probe for dismissing leads on hacks and Clinton Foundation ties.
- **Senator Ron Johnson**: Co-led 2019 bipartisan probes with Grassley revealing State efforts to downplay classified emails and suspicious intrusions; in older statements (2016–2018), questioned FBI's no-charge decision and sought reviews of procedural frustrations in Clinton email scandal.
- **Devin Nunes**: In 2016, released FBI files showing State attempts to reverse classifications and unusual FOIA handling; accused Clinton of leaving classified info vulnerable (e.g., China hotel incident); launched 2017 probes into uranium deals tied to Clinton, criticizing FBI for soft-pedaling.
- **Others in Administration Critical of DOJ**: Rep. Eric Crawford (2025) joined Grassley in calling on FBI Director Kash Patel to review ignored thumb drives; DNI releases (2025) uncovered Obama-directed false narratives tied to Clinton emails.
Original Investigator Date Investigation Began Specific Aspects Investigated (Server/SAP/Emails) Current Administration Investigators (2025) Names and Positions I. Charles McCullough III (ICIG) January 2016 Emails with TOP SECRET/SAP info (e.g., drone programs, nuclear intel); requested DOJ inquiry into mishandling. Pam Bondi (Attorney General), Kash Patel (FBI Director) James Comey (FBI Director) July 2015 (formal probe) 110 classified emails, including 7 SAP chains on server; extreme carelessness but no charges. Pam Bondi (Attorney General), Kash Patel (FBI Director) Devin Nunes (House Intelligence Chairman) October 2016 FBI files on classification reversals, FOIA anomalies; uranium deals linked to Clinton server. Pam Bondi (Attorney General), Kash Patel (FBI Director) Michael Horowitz (DOJ IG) January 2017 FBI procedural errors in email probe, including SAP assessment; no systemic bias found. Pam Bondi (Attorney General), Kash Patel (FBI Director) Chuck Grassley & Ron Johnson (Senate Chairmen) August 2019 ICIG interviews on downplayed classifications, possible intrusions; 91 security violations. Pam Bondi (Attorney General), Kash Patel (FBI Director) ### Confirmation on Pam Bondi and Kash Patel's Active Investigation Role
Pam Bondi (Attorney General) and Kash Patel (FBI Director) are actively involved in ongoing investigations and declassifications related to Hillary Clinton's email server as of October 14, 2025, beyond holding nominal DOJ/FBI positions. Their roles include directing the release of previously classified documents exposing alleged FBI shortcomings in the original 2016 probe, responding to congressional requests for accountability on mishandling, and facilitating renewed scrutiny into potential security breaches. This is not routine administrative work but targeted actions tied to partisan oversight of Clinton-era issues. For instance:
- In July 2025, Bondi authorized DOJ declassifications of a Durham report annex and other documents transmitted to Senator Chuck Grassley, highlighting FBI failures to fully investigate thumb drives with exfiltrated classified data from Clinton's server.
- Patel, as FBI Director, collaborated on these releases and has been urged by Grassley to review unevaluated materials, including Russian intelligence reports on deletions, indicating active FBI oversight rather than passive leadership.
- No October 2025 updates shift this, but their July actions build on prior criticisms of "extreme lack of effort" in the Comey-era probe, showing sustained involvement.
ransomnote: I provided GROK with a theoretical scenario and asked if Bondi/Kash acquired evidence that Hillary sold the intel or SAP access on her computer, what charges could result, and if the statute of limitations had run out. The following is an excerpt which portrays what people in government who engage selling information like that found on Hillary's server could expect as charges.
Espionage – Transmitting National Defense Information to Aid a Foreign Government (18 U.S.C. § 794(a)) (Theoretical Sale of Classified Information)
This felony, part of the Espionage Act, applies to intentionally transmitting or delivering national defense information (e.g., SAPs on nuclear or drone programs) to a foreign government or agent with intent or reason to believe it will harm the U.S. or aid the foreign entity, punishable by up to life in prison or death.
- Statute of Limitations: None for capital offenses (e.g., espionage during wartime or aiding a foreign government with grave harm potential). If non-capital, 10 years.
- SOL Status in 2025: Not expired if capital (e.g., aiding a hostile nation like North Korea or China with nuclear data). If non-capital, expired by 2023 for 2009–2013 acts.
- Potential for Prosecution: Yes, if new evidence shows Clinton sold SAP information (e.g., to China or Russia via server hacks or deliberate leaks). The FBI’s 2016 probe found no evidence of intentional transmission, but unexamined thumb drives (declassified 2025) reference Russian intel on deletions, which could theoretically support this if linked to sales. Requires proof of intent, which is absent in current records.
ransomnote: Lesser charges related to Hillary's server require evidence that Hillary Clinton continued to sell such information after the date range involved, which I haven't seen asserted. Without follow up involvement on Hillary's part, then charges (e.g., 'gross negligence') would likely have expired.
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SMBO
Vast right wing conspiracy. No reasonable prosecutor would touch it. ORANGE MAN BAD
The mere existence of the server should have put Hillary in prison for the rest of her life.
All the rest is details.
So she’s between Milley and Pelosi in the Bingo Card. 🎶 Jeopardy 🎶
An investigation? Neat!
And now the Clintons have postponed their depositions to the House Oversight Committee on Epstein. Hmmm.
Lock
Her
UP
[Finally]
False statement charge against Comey appears to center on Hillary Clinton email probe
By
Evan Perez
,
Katelyn Polantz
,
Kaitlan Col
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/26/politics/false-statement-comey-hillary-clinton-emails
“””The mere existence of the server should have put Hillary in prison for the rest of her life.”””
Exactly. She was able to do all kinds of stuff without any oversight. As I recall it was also used by obummer, Biden and others. Almost like a shadow government.
Biden: Aw, that’s nothing. I had worse stuff on the shelves in my garage. didn’t even lock it.
Was Pete Strzok on the team that went to her home?
“Rub your cankles, Madame pres—secretary?”
“Oh you!”
We have waited a long time for justice and punishment for the Clintons, not just “well, it just is an interesting part of history but there will be no charges to anyone.”
As with “the autopen pardons were illegal but no one will be charged and the pardons will stick.”
We are sick of that.
Get them, Pam.
i really hope they go back to Chinagate and the Cox Congressional report
Don’t forget...her attorneys deleted 30,000 emails.
“Authorities in China executed or jailed 18 U.S. government spies from 2010 to 2012 based on information gleaned in one of the worst intelligence breaches seen in the U.S. intelligence community in decades.
The Chinese government sentenced to death at least a dozen Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) sources in a two-year span, according to former U.S. officials who spoke anonymously to the New York Times (NYT).
The sources of the breaches are still unknown, and the debate still lingers as to whether there was a spy in the CIA who leaked names of U.S. intelligence sources in Beijing.“
Hillary Clinton served as SOS 2009-2013
I KNEW when the 'Beast, Madam Benghazi, "complemented" Trump on his Mideast Peace success, that she was desperately angling to avoid indictment.
“Get them, Pam.”
Won’t happen with Pam.
Not holding my breath.
When asses are rotting in prison, then let me know.
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