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Physicists Stunned: Lead-208’s Shape Just Broke a Fundamental Rule of Nuclear Physics
Scitech Daily ^ | March 14, 2025 | University of Surrey

Posted on 03/14/2025 6:02:07 AM PDT by Red Badger

Scientists have discovered that lead-208, once thought to be spherical, is actually elongated. This challenges nuclear theory and sparks fresh questions about atomic structure and stability. Credit: SciTechDaily.com

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For decades, scientists believed that lead-208, a “doubly magic” and highly stable atomic nucleus, was perfectly spherical. However, groundbreaking new research has shattered this assumption, revealing that its nucleus is actually elongated, much like a rugby ball.

By using an advanced gamma-ray spectrometer and high-speed particle collisions, researchers uncovered unexpected quantum behavior that contradicts long-standing nuclear theory. This revelation forces physicists to rethink fundamental principles of nuclear structure, potentially reshaping our understanding of heavy elements and their formation in the universe.

Lead-208: A Surprising Discovery

A team of international researchers, led by the University of Surrey’s Nuclear Physics Group, has overturned a long-held belief about lead-208 (208Pb). Scientists previously thought this atomic nucleus was perfectly spherical, but new findings show it is slightly elongated. This discovery challenges fundamental ideas about nuclear structure and could reshape our understanding of how the heaviest elements form in the universe.

Lead-208 is known for its exceptional stability as a “doubly magic” nucleus – the heaviest one identified so far. However, a study published in Physical Review Letters used high-precision experimental techniques to analyze its shape. Instead of being a perfect sphere, researchers found that lead-208’s nucleus is subtly stretched into a rugby ball-like shape (prolate spheroid).

Unveiling the Unexpected Shape

Dr. Jack Henderson, the study’s principal investigator from the University of Surrey’s School of Mathematics and Physics, explained:

“We were able to combine four separate measurements using the world’s most sensitive experimental equipment for this type of study, which is what allowed us to make this challenging observation. What we saw surprised us, demonstrating conclusively that lead-208 is not spherical, as one might naively assume. The findings directly challenge results from our colleagues in nuclear theory, presenting an exciting avenue for future research.”

Cutting-Edge Technology Uncovers Hidden Details

Using the state-of-the-art GRETINA gamma-ray spectrometer at Argonne National Laboratory in Illinois, USA, scientists bombarded lead atoms with high-speed particle beams accelerated to 10% of the speed of light – equivalent to circling the Earth every second. The interactions created unique gamma-ray fingerprints of the properties of excited quantum states in lead-208 nuclei – in other words, the nuclei were energized – which, in turn, were used to determine its shape.

A Rethink in Nuclear Theory

Theoretical physicists, including those at the Surrey Nuclear Theory Group, are now re-examining the models used to describe atomic nuclei, as the experiments suggest that nuclear structure is far more complex than previously thought.

Professor Paul Stevenson, lead theorist on the study from the University of Surrey, said:

“These highly sensitive experiments have shed new light on something we thought we understood very well, presenting us with the new challenge of understanding the reasons why. One possibility is that the vibrations of the lead-208 nucleus, when excited during the experiments, are less regular than previously assumed. We are now refining our theories further to determine whether these ideas are right.”

The Next Frontier in Nuclear Physics

The study, which brought together a team of experts from leading nuclear physics research centers across Europe and North America, challenges fundamental principles of nuclear physics and opens new avenues for research into nuclear stability, astrophysics, and quantum mechanics.

Reference:

“Deformation and Collectivity in Doubly Magic 208Pb”

by J. Henderson, J. Heery, M. Rocchini, M. Siciliano, N. Sensharma, A. D. Ayangeakaa, R. V. F. Janssens, T. M. Kowalewski, Abhishek, P. D. Stevenson, E. Yüksel, B. A. Brown, T. R. Rodriguez, L. M. Robledo, C. Y. Wu, S. Kisyov, C. Müller-Gatermann, V. Bildstein, L. Canete, C. M. Campbell, S. Carmichael, M. P. Carpenter, W. N. Catford, P. Copp, C. Cousins, M. Devlin, D. T. Doherty, P. E. Garrett, U. Garg, L. P. Gaffney, K. Hadynska-Klek, D. J. Hartley, S. F. Hicks, H. Jayatissa, S. R. Johnson, D. Kalaydjieva, F. Kondev, D. Lascar, T. Lauritsen, G. Lotay, N. Marchini, M. Matejska-Minda, S. Nandi, A. Nannini, C. O’Shea, S. Pascu, C. J. Paxman, A. Perkoff, E. E. Peters, Zs. Podolyák, A. Radich, R. Rathod, B. J. Reed, P. H. Regan, W. Reviol, E. Rubino, R. Russell, D. Seweryniak, J. R. Vanhoy, G. L. Wilson, K. Wrzosek-Lipska, S. W. Yates and I. Zanon, 14 February 2025, Physical Review Letters.

DOI: 10.1103/PhysRevLett.134.062502


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To: Bratch

Nailed it!


21 posted on 03/14/2025 6:45:18 AM PDT by HYPOCRACY (Long live The Great MAGA Kangz!)
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To: Red Badger

Physicists need to be humble when it comes to their “fundamental principles” and accept the fact that they may be wrong.


22 posted on 03/14/2025 6:53:15 AM PDT by I want the USA back (America is once again GREAT!)
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To: Red Badger

23 posted on 03/14/2025 6:54:23 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Red Badger
They should have asked me. I've known this most of my life. I could've gave them examples.


24 posted on 03/14/2025 7:00:18 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Whoever said "out of sight, out of mind" never had a snake disappear in their bedroom.)
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To: Candor7

This discovery was only made possible by halting the ten billion dollar NSAID funding for the Upper Volta Intersex Bluegill AquaFarming Next Generation Hook and Sinker (UVIBGHS-NG) project.

The research team had expected to publish it’s shocking findings in 2029 but were forced to unveil it early due to lack of electron microscope time and loss of their congressional sponsors.


25 posted on 03/14/2025 7:02:35 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: Red Badger

At least it’s not Brown 25


26 posted on 03/14/2025 7:11:24 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: Red Badger

“Broke a fundamental rule of nuclear physics”
No, they gained a better understanding of nuclear physics.


27 posted on 03/14/2025 7:13:02 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: 9YearLurker
You mean physicists don’t have it all figured out?

Hell, the left wing among them don't even know the difference between a boy and a girl.

28 posted on 03/14/2025 7:14:51 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: libertylover

Just when you think you’ve got it all figured out, God throws you a curveball!......................


29 posted on 03/14/2025 7:14:57 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Candor7

“Lead is long?”

Damn! Now you tell me. I just went short on Homestake Mining Company.


30 posted on 03/14/2025 7:16:47 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (Democrats who say ‘no one is above the law’ won’t mind going to prison for the money they stole)
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To: Red Badger

Didn’t break nothing.

The uncorrectness of the so-called rule was exposed.

I’ll read the article later...lol


31 posted on 03/14/2025 7:19:24 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: libertylover
Misinformation Warning! This post violated the EU, UN, WEF, Atomic Energy Commitee, Union of Concerned Scientists, UNNESCO, and Atlantic Council Rules and Standards for sharing false or misleading scientific info that might bring harm to some vulnerable communities receiving USAID funds for their very survival and besides did not explain how this research supports efforts to understand human caused Global Climate Change.
32 posted on 03/14/2025 7:55:58 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: Red Badger
I don't see any muslim names here. Lots of Jews, Hindoos, Chinese, Polish, Englishm etc.

by J. Henderson, J. Heery, M. Rocchini, M. Siciliano, N. Sensharma, A. D. Ayangeakaa, R. V. F. Janssens, T. M. Kowalewski, Abhishek, P. D. Stevenson, E. Yüksel, B. A. Brown, T. R. Rodriguez, L. M. Robledo, C. Y. Wu, S. Kisyov, C. Müller-Gatermann, V. Bildstein, L. Canete, C. M. Campbell, S. Carmichael, M. P. Carpenter, W. N. Catford, P. Copp, C. Cousins, M. Devlin, D. T. Doherty, P. E. Garrett, U. Garg, L. P. Gaffney, K. Hadynska-Klek, D. J. Hartley, S. F. Hicks, H. Jayatissa, S. R. Johnson, D. Kalaydjieva, F. Kondev, D. Lascar, T. Lauritsen, G. Lotay, N. Marchini, M. Matejska-Minda, S. Nandi, A. Nannini, C. O’Shea, S. Pascu, C. J. Paxman, A. Perkoff, E. E. Peters, Zs. Podolyák, A. Radich, R. Rathod, B. J. Reed, P. H. Regan, W. Reviol, E. Rubino, R. Russell, D. Seweryniak, J. R. Vanhoy, G. L. Wilson, K. Wrzosek-Lipska, S. W. Yates and I. Zanon, 14 February 2025, Physical Review Letters.

33 posted on 03/14/2025 7:57:29 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: Red Badger
I don't see any muslim names here. Lots of Jews, Hindoos, Chinese, Polish, Englishm etc.

by J. Henderson, J. Heery, M. Rocchini, M. Siciliano, N. Sensharma, A. D. Ayangeakaa, R. V. F. Janssens, T. M. Kowalewski, Abhishek, P. D. Stevenson, E. Yüksel, B. A. Brown, T. R. Rodriguez, L. M. Robledo, C. Y. Wu, S. Kisyov, C. Müller-Gatermann, V. Bildstein, L. Canete, C. M. Campbell, S. Carmichael, M. P. Carpenter, W. N. Catford, P. Copp, C. Cousins, M. Devlin, D. T. Doherty, P. E. Garrett, U. Garg, L. P. Gaffney, K. Hadynska-Klek, D. J. Hartley, S. F. Hicks, H. Jayatissa, S. R. Johnson, D. Kalaydjieva, F. Kondev, D. Lascar, T. Lauritsen, G. Lotay, N. Marchini, M. Matejska-Minda, S. Nandi, A. Nannini, C. O’Shea, S. Pascu, C. J. Paxman, A. Perkoff, E. E. Peters, Zs. Podolyák, A. Radich, R. Rathod, B. J. Reed, P. H. Regan, W. Reviol, E. Rubino, R. Russell, D. Seweryniak, J. R. Vanhoy, G. L. Wilson, K. Wrzosek-Lipska, S. W. Yates and I. Zanon, 14 February 2025, Physical Review Letters.

34 posted on 03/14/2025 7:57:29 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: Red Badger; 6SJ7; AdmSmith; AFPhys; Arkinsaw; allmost; aristotleman; autumnraine; bajabaja; ...
Thanks Red Badger. In the news biz, lead ("leed") is spelled "lede", whereas often it should be spelled "lied".


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35 posted on 03/14/2025 8:20:41 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I lead the lead with a LED...............


36 posted on 03/14/2025 8:27:17 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
"...once thought to be....." The history of science in a nutshell.

"Nothing. Nothing. IS. Ever. Settled."

37 posted on 03/14/2025 8:38:26 AM PDT by GOPJ (Corrupt MSM press ignored Biden's inflation almost to the end. With Trump they watch every day.)
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To: Red Badger

So that’s why my cast bullets are inaccurate.

I knew it was not me.


38 posted on 03/14/2025 10:17:26 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Running Rampant, and not endorsing nonsense; My pronoun is EXIT. And I am generally full of /S)
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To: Red Badger

“These highly sensitive experiments have shed new light on something we thought we understood very well,
= = =

Oh, wasn’t that ‘settled’?


39 posted on 03/14/2025 10:19:07 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Running Rampant, and not endorsing nonsense; My pronoun is EXIT. And I am generally full of /S)
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