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Physicists Stunned: Lead-208’s Shape Just Broke a Fundamental Rule of Nuclear Physics
Scitech Daily ^ | March 14, 2025 | University of Surrey

Posted on 03/14/2025 6:02:07 AM PDT by Red Badger

Scientists have discovered that lead-208, once thought to be spherical, is actually elongated. This challenges nuclear theory and sparks fresh questions about atomic structure and stability. Credit: SciTechDaily.com

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For decades, scientists believed that lead-208, a “doubly magic” and highly stable atomic nucleus, was perfectly spherical. However, groundbreaking new research has shattered this assumption, revealing that its nucleus is actually elongated, much like a rugby ball.

By using an advanced gamma-ray spectrometer and high-speed particle collisions, researchers uncovered unexpected quantum behavior that contradicts long-standing nuclear theory. This revelation forces physicists to rethink fundamental principles of nuclear structure, potentially reshaping our understanding of heavy elements and their formation in the universe.

Lead-208: A Surprising Discovery

A team of international researchers, led by the University of Surrey’s Nuclear Physics Group, has overturned a long-held belief about lead-208 (208Pb). Scientists previously thought this atomic nucleus was perfectly spherical, but new findings show it is slightly elongated. This discovery challenges fundamental ideas about nuclear structure and could reshape our understanding of how the heaviest elements form in the universe.

Lead-208 is known for its exceptional stability as a “doubly magic” nucleus – the heaviest one identified so far. However, a study published in Physical Review Letters used high-precision experimental techniques to analyze its shape. Instead of being a perfect sphere, researchers found that lead-208’s nucleus is subtly stretched into a rugby ball-like shape (prolate spheroid).

Unveiling the Unexpected Shape

Dr. Jack Henderson, the study’s principal investigator from the University of Surrey’s School of Mathematics and Physics, explained:

“We were able to combine four separate measurements using the world’s most sensitive experimental equipment for this type of study, which is what allowed us to make this challenging observation. What we saw surprised us, demonstrating conclusively that lead-208 is not spherical, as one might naively assume. The findings directly challenge results from our colleagues in nuclear theory, presenting an exciting avenue for future research.”

Cutting-Edge Technology Uncovers Hidden Details

Using the state-of-the-art GRETINA gamma-ray spectrometer at Argonne National Laboratory in Illinois, USA, scientists bombarded lead atoms with high-speed particle beams accelerated to 10% of the speed of light – equivalent to circling the Earth every second. The interactions created unique gamma-ray fingerprints of the properties of excited quantum states in lead-208 nuclei – in other words, the nuclei were energized – which, in turn, were used to determine its shape.

A Rethink in Nuclear Theory

Theoretical physicists, including those at the Surrey Nuclear Theory Group, are now re-examining the models used to describe atomic nuclei, as the experiments suggest that nuclear structure is far more complex than previously thought.

Professor Paul Stevenson, lead theorist on the study from the University of Surrey, said:

“These highly sensitive experiments have shed new light on something we thought we understood very well, presenting us with the new challenge of understanding the reasons why. One possibility is that the vibrations of the lead-208 nucleus, when excited during the experiments, are less regular than previously assumed. We are now refining our theories further to determine whether these ideas are right.”

The Next Frontier in Nuclear Physics

The study, which brought together a team of experts from leading nuclear physics research centers across Europe and North America, challenges fundamental principles of nuclear physics and opens new avenues for research into nuclear stability, astrophysics, and quantum mechanics.

Reference:

“Deformation and Collectivity in Doubly Magic 208Pb”

by J. Henderson, J. Heery, M. Rocchini, M. Siciliano, N. Sensharma, A. D. Ayangeakaa, R. V. F. Janssens, T. M. Kowalewski, Abhishek, P. D. Stevenson, E. Yüksel, B. A. Brown, T. R. Rodriguez, L. M. Robledo, C. Y. Wu, S. Kisyov, C. Müller-Gatermann, V. Bildstein, L. Canete, C. M. Campbell, S. Carmichael, M. P. Carpenter, W. N. Catford, P. Copp, C. Cousins, M. Devlin, D. T. Doherty, P. E. Garrett, U. Garg, L. P. Gaffney, K. Hadynska-Klek, D. J. Hartley, S. F. Hicks, H. Jayatissa, S. R. Johnson, D. Kalaydjieva, F. Kondev, D. Lascar, T. Lauritsen, G. Lotay, N. Marchini, M. Matejska-Minda, S. Nandi, A. Nannini, C. O’Shea, S. Pascu, C. J. Paxman, A. Perkoff, E. E. Peters, Zs. Podolyák, A. Radich, R. Rathod, B. J. Reed, P. H. Regan, W. Reviol, E. Rubino, R. Russell, D. Seweryniak, J. R. Vanhoy, G. L. Wilson, K. Wrzosek-Lipska, S. W. Yates and I. Zanon, 14 February 2025, Physical Review Letters.

DOI: 10.1103/PhysRevLett.134.062502


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KEYWORDS: 208pb; football; lead; lead208; physics; prolatespheroid; rugby; science; sphere; stringtheory
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1 posted on 03/14/2025 6:02:07 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: SunkenCiv

God Loves Football too!....................


2 posted on 03/14/2025 6:02:37 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

It took them THIS LONG to figure out the OBVIOUS?


3 posted on 03/14/2025 6:09:14 AM PDT by BobL (The people who hate Trump demand that you hate Russia)
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To: Red Badger

“How was work today, dear?”

“It was SO exciting! We discovered that the nucleus of lead-208 is not spherical, but it is shaped like a rugby ball! Can you believe that?”

“That’s nice, dear. Have a seat. Your mashed potatoes are getting cold.”


4 posted on 03/14/2025 6:11:30 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (Democrats who say ‘no one is above the law’ won’t mind going to prison for the money they stole)
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To: Red Badger
From the article ---- "...once thought to be....."

The history of science in a nutshell.

Happy Friday.

5 posted on 03/14/2025 6:11:54 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Red Badger

You mean physicists don’t have it all figured out?

Well, I’ll be.


6 posted on 03/14/2025 6:12:41 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

How can you have your pudding when you don’t eat your meat?


7 posted on 03/14/2025 6:14:03 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: Red Badger

Just when physicists think they have it figured out, Lucy snatches away the football.


8 posted on 03/14/2025 6:14:11 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: 9YearLurker

Medical science took until 2013 to discover this knee ligament:

https://www.nbcnews.com/healthmain/new-ligament-found-human-knee-8C11551563

So there’s that. Lol


9 posted on 03/14/2025 6:18:03 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: 9YearLurker

10 posted on 03/14/2025 6:18:14 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: one guy in new jersey; Red Badger

Ha!


11 posted on 03/14/2025 6:19:31 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: ClearCase_guy

12 posted on 03/14/2025 6:21:16 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

History: Lies agreed upon........................


13 posted on 03/14/2025 6:22:20 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger
This explains a great many things.



14 posted on 03/14/2025 6:26:01 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: Red Badger

Wait a minute.

Are they saying that the consensus was wrong?

I thought consensus was the gold standard of science...


15 posted on 03/14/2025 6:31:45 AM PDT by chrisser (I lost my vaccine card in a tragic boating accident.)
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To: Red Badger; Lazamataz

Lead is long? Who knew?


16 posted on 03/14/2025 6:35:48 AM PDT by Candor7 (Ask not for whom the Trump Trolls,He trolls for thee!<img src="" width=500</img><a href="">tag</a>)
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To: Red Badger
Looks like it’s back to square one..


17 posted on 03/14/2025 6:37:02 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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To: smokingfrog

Are we sure it’s ‘square’?..................


18 posted on 03/14/2025 6:41:24 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

And how does this affect my ability to use it to conquer the world?


19 posted on 03/14/2025 6:44:35 AM PDT by HYPOCRACY (Long live The Great MAGA Kangz!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Can’t get over the stunning shock of this revelation, walking aimlessly now, trying to imagine how we could be so wrong about something of this importance.

Maybe an early bourbon and fishing would clear my battered and bruised sensibilities...


20 posted on 03/14/2025 6:45:05 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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