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We've Never Found Anything Like The Solar System. Is It a Freak in Space?
Science Alert ^ | 29 December 2022 | By MICHELLE STARR

Posted on 12/28/2022 11:14:08 AM PST by Red Badger

Bold Colour Image depicting the Solar System (NASA)

Since the landmark discovery in 1992 of two planets orbiting a star outside of our Solar System, thousands of new worlds have been added to a rapidly growing list of 'exoplanets' in the Milky Way galaxy.

We've learnt many things from this vast catalogue of alien worlds orbiting alien stars. But one small detail stands out like a sore thumb. We've found nothing else out there like our own Solar System.

This has led some to conclude that our home star and its brood could be outliers in some way – perhaps the only planetary system of its kind.

By extension, this could mean life itself is an outlier; that the conditions that formed Earth and its veneer of self-replicating chemistry are difficult to replicate.

If you're just looking at the numbers, the outlook is grim. By a large margin, the most numerous exoplanets we've identified to date are of a type not known to be conducive to life: giants and subgiants, of the gas and maybe ice variety.

Most exoplanets we've seen so far orbit their stars very closely, practically hugging them; so close that their sizzling temperatures would be much higher than the known habitability range.

Artist's impression of an ultra-hot Jupiter transiting its star. (ESO/M. Kornmesser)

It's possible that as we continue searching, the statistics will balance out and we'll see more places that remind us of our own backyard. But the issue is much more complex than just looking at numbers. Exoplanet science is limited by the capabilities of our technology. More than that, our impression of the true variety of alien worlds risks being limited by our own imagination.

What's really out there in the Milky Way galaxy, and beyond, may be very different from what we actually see.

Expectations, and how to thwart them Exoplanet science has a history of subverting expectations, right from the very beginning.

"If you go back to that world I grew up in when I was a kid, we only knew of one planetary system," planetary scientist Jonti Horner of the University of Southern Queensland tells ScienceAlert.

"And so that was this kind of implicit assumption, and sometimes the explicit assumption, that all planetary systems would be like this. You know, you'd have rocky planets near the star that were quite small, you'd have gas giants a long way from the star that were quite big. And that's how planetary systems would be."

For this reason, it took scientists a while to identify an exoplanet orbiting a main sequence star, like our Sun. Assuming other solar systems were like ours, the tell-tale signs of heavyweight planets tugging on their stars would take years to observe, just as it takes our own gas giants years to complete an orbit.

Based on such lengthy periods of a single measurement, it didn't seem worth the trouble to sift through a relatively short history of observations for many stars to conclusively sift out a fellow main-sequence solar system.

When they finally did look, the exoplanet they found was nothing like what they were expecting: a gas giant half the mass (and twice the size) of Jupiter orbiting so close to its host star, its year equals 4.2 days, and its atmosphere scorches at temperatures of around 1,000 degrees Celsius (1800 degrees Fahrenheit).

Since then, we've learnt these 'Hot Jupiter' type planets aren't oddities at all. If anything, they seem relatively common.

We know now that there's a lot more variety out there in the galaxy than what we see in our home system. However, it's important not to assume that what we can currently detect is all that the Milky Way has to offer. If there's anything out there like our own Solar System, it's very possibly beyond our detection capabilities.

"Things like the Solar System are very hard for us to find, they're a bit beyond us technologically at the minute," Horner says.

"The terrestrial planets would be very unlikely to be picked up from any of the surveys we've done so far. You're very unlikely to be able to find a Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars around a star like the Sun."

How to find a planet

Let's be perfectly clear: the methods we use to detect exoplanets are incredibly clever. There are currently two that are the workhorses of the exoplanet detection toolkit: the transit method, and the radial velocity method.

In both cases, you need a telescope sensitive to very minute changes in the light of a star. The signals each are looking for, however, couldn't be more different.

For the transit method you'll need a telescope that can keep a star fixed in its view for a sustained period of time. That's why instruments such as NASA's space-based Transiting Exoplanet Survey Satellite (TESS) is such a powerhouse, capable of locking onto a segment of the sky for over 27 days without being interrupted by Earth's rotation.

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The aim for these kinds of telescopes is to spot the signal of a transit – when an exoplanet passes between us and its host star, like a tiny cloud blotting out a few rays of sunshine. These dips in light are tiny, as you can imagine. And one blip is insufficient to confidently infer the presence of an exoplanet; there are many things that can dim a star's light, many of which are one-off events. Multiple transits, especially ones that exhibit regular periodicity, are the gold standard.

Therefore, larger exoplanets that are on short orbital periods, closer to their stars than Mercury is to the Sun (some much, much closer, on orbits of less than one Earth week), are favored in the data.

The radial velocity method detects the wobble of a star caused by the gravitational pull of the exoplanet as it swings around in its orbit. A planetary system, you see, doesn't really orbit a star, so much as dance in a coordinated shuffle. The star and the planets orbit a mutual center of gravity, known as the barycenter. For the Solar System, that's a point very, very close to the surface of the Sun, or just outside it, primarily due to the influence of Jupiter, which is more than twice the mass of all the rest of the planets combined.

Unlike a transit's blink-and-you-miss-it event, the shift in the star's position is an ongoing change that doesn't require constant monitoring to notice. We can detect the motion of distant stars orbiting their barycenters because that motion changes their light due to something called the Doppler effect.

As the star moves towards us, the waves of light coming in our direction are squished slightly, towards the bluer end of the spectrum; as it moves away, the waves stretch towards the redder end. A regular 'wobble' in the star's light suggests the presence of an orbital companion.

Again, the data tends to favor larger planets that exert a stronger gravitational influence, on shorter, closer orbits to their star.

Aside from these two prominent methods, it's possible on occasion to directly image an exoplanet as it orbits its star. Though an extremely difficult thing to do, it may become more common in the JWST era.

According to astronomer Daniel Bayliss of the University of Warwick in the UK, this approach would uncover an almost opposite class of exoplanet to the short-orbit variety. In order to see an exoplanet without it being swamped by the glare of its parent star, the two bodies need to have a very wide separation. This means the direct imaging approach favors planets on relatively long orbits.

However, larger exoplanets would still be spotted more easily through this method, for obvious reasons.

"Each of the discovery methods has its own biases," Bayliss explains.

Earth with its year-long loop around the Sun sits between the orbital extremes favored by different detection techniques, he adds, so "to find planets with a one year orbit is still very, very difficult."

What's out there?

By far, the most numerous group of exoplanets is a class that isn't even represented in the Solar System. That's the mini-Neptune – gas-enveloped exoplanets that are smaller than Neptune and larger than Earth in size.

Rocky planet surrounded by purple haze and a star in the distance on the left

Illustration of the mini-Neptune TOI 560.01, orbiting its solitary star. (W. M. Keck Observatory/Adam Makarenko)

Most of the confirmed exoplanets are on much shorter orbits than Earth; in fact, more than half have orbits of less than 20 days.

Most of the exoplanets we've found orbit solitary stars, much like our Sun. Fewer than 10 percent are in multi-star systems. Yet most of the stars in the Milky Way are members of a multi-star systems, with estimates as high as 80 percent seen in a partnership orbiting at least one other star.

Think about that for a moment, though. Does that mean that exoplanets are more common around single stars – or that exoplanets are harder to detect around multiple stars? The presence of more than one source of light can distort or obscure the very similar (but much smaller) signals we're trying to detect from exoplanets, but it might also be reasoned that multi-star systems complicate planet formation in some way.

And this brings us back home again, back to our Solar System. As odd as home seems in the context of everything we've found, it might not be uncommon at all.

"I think it is fair enough to say that there's actually some very common types of planets that are missing from our Solar System," says Bayliss.

"Super Earths that look a little bit like Earth but have double the radius, we don't have anything like that. We don't have these mini-Neptunes. So I think it is fair enough to say that there are some very common planets that we don't see in our own Solar System.

"Now, whether that makes our Solar System rare or not, I think I wouldn't go that far. Because there could be a lot of other stars that have a Solar System-type set of planets that we just don't see yet."

An artist's illustration of many planets and stars in the Milky Way. This artist's illustration gives an impression of how common planets are around the stars in the Milky Way. (ESO/M. Kornmesser) On the brink of discovery The first exoplanets were discovered just 30 years ago orbiting a pulsar, a star completely unlike our own. Since then, the technology has improved out of sight. Now that scientists know what to look for, they can devise better and better ways to find them around a greater diversity of stars.

And, as the technology advances, so too will our ability to find smaller and smaller worlds.

This means that exoplanet science could be on the brink of discovering thousands of worlds hidden from our current view. As Horner points out, in astronomy, there are way more small things than big things.

Red dwarf stars are a perfect example. They're the most common type of star in the Milky Way – and they're tiny, up to about half the mass of the Sun. They're so small and dim that we can't see them with the naked eye, yet they account for up to 75 percent of all stars in the galaxy.

Right now, when it comes to statistically understanding exoplanets, we're operating with incomplete information, because there are types of worlds we just can't see.

That is bound to change.

"I just have this nagging feeling that if you come back in 20 years time, you'll look at those statements that mini-Neptunes are the most common kind of planets with about as much skepticism as you'd look back at statements from the early 1990s that said you'd only get rocky planets next to the star," Horner tells ScienceAlert.

"Now, I could well be proved wrong. This is how science works. But my thinking is that when we get to the point that we can discover things that are Earth-sized and smaller, we'll find that there are more things that are Earth-sized and smaller than there are things that are Neptune-sized."

And maybe we'll find that our oddball little planetary system, in all its quirks and wonders, isn't so alone in the cosmos after all.


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To: DouglasKC

I think any habitable planet would be so far out there that Earthlings could never get there. They’d have to build a network of space stations, and by the ttme they reached the planet, some of the space stations would have failed, so they’d have to start all over.

The stars out there are so far away and many of them cannot be used for navigation. So why would God create them?


41 posted on 12/28/2022 12:04:57 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: DouglasKC

Good post.

I’ve always thought the “others” were those in the angelic realm.

“He makes his angels winds,
His ministers of flame of fire”

CS Lewis said somewhere, “Possible worlds” are worlds God could have made, but didnt’


42 posted on 12/28/2022 12:06:24 PM PST by avenir (Information overload = Pattern recognition)
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To: Red Badger

Unless and until we either find life somewhere else or figure out how to make a living organism from scratch in a laboratory we have no idea how common or rare life may be in the rest of the universe.

Making complex organic molecules is easy. Just take hydrogen, carbon dioxide and a few other elements, put them under pressure with a heat source, and mix them around for a few million years. The atmospheres of most gas giants do nicely. How to make the jump from the most complex organinic molecules to the simplest living organism is the big unknown.

It is quite possible that the evolution of life took such a complex number of coincidental conditions that Earth is the only place it has ever happened, like the old saying that if you have an infinite number of monkeys banging on typewriters eventually one of them will reproduce all of the works of Shakespeare.


43 posted on 12/28/2022 12:06:34 PM PST by kennedy (No relation to those other Kennedys.)
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To: MtnClimber; dfwgator; Red Badger; SaveFerris; PROCON
Just look for the flaming globes.


44 posted on 12/28/2022 12:11:35 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: ifinnegan; P.O.E.
“There are considerable religious, philosophical, practical considerations in either case, especially in the long run.”

What are they?

IMHO, atheists must find advanced life outside of Earth to prove that a series of freak accidents could have resulted in our existence. The more we look and look and look without finding advanced life in space, the more it sees we were specially created by a Creator.

But Christians don't have that restriction. Whether or not advanced life exists elsewhere doesn't negate our belief that God created us. God could have created other advanced organisms elsewhere. And it's possible He didn't.

45 posted on 12/28/2022 12:12:01 PM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: dfwgator

“Doesn’t “The Heavens and the Earth”, imply with ‘Heavens’ that it is the entire Universe?”

“Heavens” is plural.


46 posted on 12/28/2022 12:12:13 PM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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To: Carl Vehse
"The estimated probable number is likely very close to the experimentally known value of one."

Good post but conclusion is wrong. "Life" exists elsewhere than Earth. The sole question is did their sentiency last long enough to get off the planet.

Earth is 4.5B; Big U is 13B; M-class stars with suitable planetary systems would have started forming 5-6B later.

That gives a 3B head start to other ur-Earths, which is enough time, enough chances, for a carbon-based, water-dependant humanoidish society to either get off their planet and get going, OR singularize with silicon-based forms and get off their planet and get going.

Then the question is, how many, where did each start from, and did any acheive interstellar flight.

3B is a looong time. YUGE. You could have hundreds of thousands of cycles where sentient carbon-based forms arose and failed to acheive interstellar flight. We may very well do the same thing.

47 posted on 12/28/2022 12:14:54 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: Red Badger

“If there were ‘others’ out there, wouldn’t we see some sort of evidence, direct or indirect, of their existence by now?................”

We don’t see what exists now. We see what existed eons ago.

Our transmissions have only reached a very few stars to this point.


48 posted on 12/28/2022 12:16:11 PM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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To: Nifster
There are those in the scientific community who can look at photos taken by Hubbell,the new satellite (I forget its name) and other telescopes and still refuse to accept the *possibility* that God exists.
49 posted on 12/28/2022 12:16:59 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (No Doubt Now: Stolen Election)
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To: scrabblehack
The stars out there are so far away and many of them cannot be used for navigation. So why would God create them?

We can certainly speculate about it. God does nothing in vain so they have a purpose. But that purpose may have nothing at all to do with our current physical reality. I'm a firm believer that the existence of the physical universe is a shadow of the real reality which exists in a realm that we can only describe as "spirit". Perhaps there is something going on in the spiritual realm that does or will involve these. But for now God created life here and his purpose is to bring many sons and daughters to glory.

50 posted on 12/28/2022 12:17:34 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

Maybe God learned from his mistakes and created better lives elsewhere?


51 posted on 12/28/2022 12:19:11 PM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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To: TexasGator
Maybe God learned from his mistakes and created better lives elsewhere?

God doesn't make mistakes. Only we do. God created us with free will. Unfortunately most have turned away from him. That is a mistake. But he took all of that into account.

52 posted on 12/28/2022 12:20:40 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Red Badger

Not really. We’re in a pretty inconvenient spot in the galaxy. And we’ve only had a rather small window that we’d even be able to detect others. Basically since radio was invented. IF said others used the same frequencies we use, which is actually a very small part of the spectrum. As for what we watch telescopically remember those images travel slow, and we’re really understanding more than we’re seeing. Like the article said we aren’t actually seeing most of these planets, we’re seeing the light of their stars fluctuating in a way that indicates planets. Even when we can see the actual planet we’re not looking at the planet now, we’re looking at the planet hundreds of years ago. Imagine somebody 400 light years away “looking” at Earth. They’d be “seeing” 1622, Jamestown Massacre, Huguenot Rebellion, 30 Years War. Not a lot of really visible stuff, heck they might not even manage to see evidence of humans.

Space is big. Our knowledge of it is small. Our footprint in it is small.


53 posted on 12/28/2022 12:31:26 PM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: Red Badger

Yes, our solar system was created by God specifically to be hospitable to life, and since He only created life here in this solar system, and made it basically physically impossible for us to escape the solar system, I doubt God tailored many other solar systems to the same parameters.


54 posted on 12/28/2022 12:32:16 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: HartleyMBaldwin
Which edition?

And of course, those editors in particular need a good telling-to. Not that their dictionary was in use too commonly.

Argumentum ad verecundiam BTW.
55 posted on 12/28/2022 12:33:46 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: DouglasKC

“God created us with free will.”

Apparently that was his mistake.


56 posted on 12/28/2022 12:34:24 PM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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To: dfwgator

He did warn us about the Brain Police.


57 posted on 12/28/2022 12:36:45 PM PST by CletusVanDamme (Everywhere is freaks and hairies, dykes and fairies. Tell me where is sanity?)
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To: SaxxonWoods; Red Badger

What the article misses, and so do 99% of people is they ignore how vast the universe is.

To reach the NEAREST Star from earth at supersonic speeds would require a hundred generations of humans breeding inside the space capsule. That is THE nearest star in Milky way galaxy.

So this article is extrapolating our limited ability to see much more beyond than the current science is capable of. It is like extrapolating the beach sand on Australian coast by an a sand fly from beach in Florida.


58 posted on 12/28/2022 12:36:55 PM PST by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: Red Badger

The Rare Earth hypothesis


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59 posted on 12/28/2022 12:38:44 PM PST by Paal Gulli (The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch and do nothing.)
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To: entropy12

It’s a great big universe
And we’re all really puny

We’re just tiny little specks
About the size of Mickey Rooney


60 posted on 12/28/2022 12:42:56 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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