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To: Carl Vehse
"The estimated probable number is likely very close to the experimentally known value of one."

Good post but conclusion is wrong. "Life" exists elsewhere than Earth. The sole question is did their sentiency last long enough to get off the planet.

Earth is 4.5B; Big U is 13B; M-class stars with suitable planetary systems would have started forming 5-6B later.

That gives a 3B head start to other ur-Earths, which is enough time, enough chances, for a carbon-based, water-dependant humanoidish society to either get off their planet and get going, OR singularize with silicon-based forms and get off their planet and get going.

Then the question is, how many, where did each start from, and did any acheive interstellar flight.

3B is a looong time. YUGE. You could have hundreds of thousands of cycles where sentient carbon-based forms arose and failed to acheive interstellar flight. We may very well do the same thing.

47 posted on 12/28/2022 12:14:54 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: StAnDeliver
"'Life' exists elsewhere than Earth."

Given that your sentence is in the present tense and given the space-time distance to other stars and galaxies, evidence supporting such a claim would seem to be limited to actual visits to Earth by extraterrestrial beings.

64 posted on 12/28/2022 12:53:49 PM PST by Carl Vehse (A proud member of the LGBFJB community)
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