Posted on 08/16/2022 7:51:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
Joe Rogan Podcast: Michio Kaku Explains Evidence For Intelligent Life In The Universe| August 9, 2022 | Joe Rogan Clips
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“there is no reason to believe that there is more than one universe.”
That is a highly controversial position to take these days—you can do your own web search to identify many very smart folks who do not agree with it.
“the number of known exoplanets has doubled approximately every 27 months”
Yup—this is a clue that we have no clue what is really out there...
Humans need to learn humility—and they need to learn it in a hurry.
Well I do know that most stars are unstable red dwarfs. Also that most are binary or multiple star systems. I also know that most exoplanets are not located in a habitable zone. That’s common knowledge.
It has been *estimated* that up to 85% of stars are binary or multiple, relationships apparently first suggested a couple hundred years ago by Herschel. But using your own professed standard, the sheer number of binary or multiple star systems isn't evidence of anything.
Most exoplanets found thus far have been in orbit around red dwarf stars -- because they are much easier to detect. So, again, the sheer number of exoplanets around red dwarf stars isn't evidence of anything.
[snip] In October 2016, deep-field images from the Hubble Space Telescope suggested that there are about 2 trillion galaxies in the observable universe, or about 10 times more galaxies than previously suggested... about 100 million stars in the average galaxy. [/snip] (Space.com)
If one believes that there is intelligent life out there, any evidence makes the belief seem more likely.
A good example was Schiaparellis’ discovery of “canali” on Mars. Our “evidence” for life out there may be just as unlikely. Nice pastime. Build a better spaceship and life model to find out.
“Many very smart folks” thought (think?) communism is the way to go also. What “many very smart folks” think is not an argument as far as I am concerned.
Michio Kauku - a non-serious populace scientist in all of the last two decades of his noteriety. Once he got so popular he has to tended more to the truly pure anti-emperical speculation. I barf every time I hear him on TV.
I'm sure he finds borderline literacy refreshing.
It's amusing to me how people dead-set against the possibility get spun up by topics about it.
:^)
In re: “and of the 5 000 planets maybe 20 of
them are earth-like”
Machio Kaku’s use of the term “earth like” is anti-science and he never validates it as to what in his view - what varialbles, how many variables and how many important variables are needed to truly, empirically qualify any planet anywhere as “earth like”. All the populist “scientists” like Kaku speculate “earth like” on so few variables that they cannot stand up to the requirements of any true earth like planet.
Mere type of start a planet orbits, the mere distance from the star it orbits, physical size of the planet, existence of water, and other few similar attributes CANNOT in so few number qualify a planet as “earth like”. But that is the sort of think Kaku does.
The true count how many planets we have discovered orbiting 5,000 stars as possibly being “earth like” may in fact be zero and not 20. Multiply 100 billion stars times zero and you still get zero. But give the 5,000 stars .00000002% chances of hosting an “earth like” planet and you might get a possibility of maybe Kaku’s 20, out of his 100 billion star count.
None of that is evidence. It is conjecture and discussion of probabilities.
I am not saying you are wrong about “one universe”—you should just be aware that your view is highly controversial.
Personally I don’t think we have a clue either way.
Ooh, temper temper.
I read that a former head of Lockheed’s Skunk Works (Ben Rich, I think) said yes, UFO’s are real but they’re ours.
But that's just an anecdotal account from a friend of his and who knows if it's true or not.
I wouldn't put much stock in it.
Given that, it is understandable that some people who are drawn to this topic will deny it consciously while at the same time their unconscious minds are trying feverishly to get a grip on it.
As Budd Hopkins said to John Mack (I paraphrase), what we know is going to change human reality itself entirely, but somehow we still have to go about our daily lives until that happens.
People adapt in their own ways. Some accept it and try to digest it, others deny it but are attracted to it like a car crash.
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