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CDC Analysis: For age 18-44 yrs, once vaccinated, your all-cause mortality drops 72% and death from ALL diseases drops to ZERO, chance of dying in an accident decreases
gab.com ^ | 10/24/2021 | Steve Kirsch

Posted on 10/25/2021 10:07:23 AM PDT by ransomnote

[H/T Fractal Trader]

Steve Kirsch

Steve Kirsch@stkirsch
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OK, this is big. The CDC just released an analysis that after you get vaccinated, your all-cause mortality drops by 72% if you are age 18-44. Since 33% of deaths in that age group are from accidents, that means that it drives death from ALL diseases to ZERO and it ALSO reduces chance of dying in an accident. NOBODY in mainstream academia has criticized the study as nonsensical. This proves that the CDC can put absurd [redacted for FR] out, and the medical community and the press just eats it up without question. Truly stunning. See Table 2.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7043e2-H.pdf



TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: cdc; covid19; deaths
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To: edwinland
Does the underlying data make sense? 

I can answer that. NO. The CDC's data is so fake if laughable, and so are you.

Maybe it does maybe it doesn't.

That's the best you can do? Damning information posted about CDC and you're trying to make it sound like facts don't matter? Maybe? Or maybe not?

81 posted on 10/25/2021 10:57:03 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote
Today is the first day of my exile from the local bar because of a county vaccine mandate (Seattle area). Bar management has indicated they will not rigorously enforce the rule, if at all, but some of us are known to be unvaccinated, and some of the pro-vaccine people are pretty smug and huffy about it. Since I can't trust them not to squeal on the owners, I'll stay away.

And, in fact, some of the vaccinated are among the worst at not respecting your personal space, and I may have as much to fear from them as they do from me. Maybe more.
82 posted on 10/25/2021 10:57:38 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: bagster

No causal connection claimed by the paper. It implies the jab gives you longer life, but it’s a study in correlation. More CDC propaganda.

The only mention that sounds like a cause is in references 7 and 8 which are > 10 year old similar studies about the flu shot. Ie the distinction is between the behavior or life circumstances of those who CHOOSE jab/no-jab, not a medical effect of the jab. Correlation not causation.


83 posted on 10/25/2021 11:01:15 AM PDT by SiGeek
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To: roving
Yet you’re here...

 

Of course. I'm here offering helpful insight and advice to anyone who needs it.

84 posted on 10/25/2021 11:02:06 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I love my country. It's my government that I hate.)
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To: bagster
Vaccine boy, you are humble and lovable.

mRNA is not even a "vax", so I wouldn't be pro-vax even if I was in favor of it.

But I am against clickbait lies like this dumb article.

85 posted on 10/25/2021 11:05:43 AM PDT by edwinland
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To: proud American in Canada

„Vaccidents“= vaccine induced (car) accidents

https://lichtnahrung2015.wordpress.com/2021/05/02/vaccidents-vaccine-induced-car-accidents/


86 posted on 10/25/2021 11:05:56 AM PDT by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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To: Responsibility2nd
Of course. I'm here offering helpful insight and advice to anyone who needs it.

Firs time caller, long time listener. I need some helpful insight and advice, Mister Owl.

How'd you get your head that far up your butt?

I'd like to avoid your mistakes.

I'll hang up and take your answer off the air.


87 posted on 10/25/2021 11:08:06 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Political Junkie Too

That is just hideous. No other word can describe it. Absolutely hideous.


88 posted on 10/25/2021 11:08:55 AM PDT by LibertyWoman (Guard with jealous attention the public Liberty. Patrick Henry)
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To: edwinland
mRNA is not even a "vax", so I wouldn't be pro-vax even if I was in favor of it.

Alright.

Fauci boy it is.


89 posted on 10/25/2021 11:09:33 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Gnome1949
And then it makes you gay.

-PJ

90 posted on 10/25/2021 11:10:48 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: ransomnote
That's the best you can do? Damning information posted about CDC and you're trying to make it sound like facts don't matter? Maybe? Or maybe not?

Uhm. No. But thanks for playing.

I'm not making it sound like facts don't matter. In fact I believe facts do matter, that's why I highlighted the clickbait lie that is this article.

As to the CDC data I literally don't know if it makes sense or not. That's it. I don't know. I haven't seen the underlying data so I don't know. Why does that matter to you? Make your own judgement. You don't need to rely on me.

But as to the author's misstatement of the the CDC's conclusion, I have all the facts I need. I read the CDC's conclusion and I read the author's lie about what the CDC said and I can see it's a lie. If it's not a lie, fly to Japan and instantly lower your risk of heart disease.

91 posted on 10/25/2021 11:11:27 AM PDT by edwinland
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To: bagster

Cute emoji.

And here’s a little challenge for you: try to explain why my conclusion that this article is a lie is false.

I’ll wait.

And then fly to Japan and as soon as you get off the plane your risk of heart disease will drop 50%, and remain that low until you come back to the U.S.


92 posted on 10/25/2021 11:13:36 AM PDT by edwinland
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To: ransomnote

The date range for this data set is Dec. 14 through July 31. A lot of people were unvaccinated until around March and a number of younger people still unvaccinated until May.

I’d like to see this chart broken down month.

I think that would be really interesting.


93 posted on 10/25/2021 11:14:52 AM PDT by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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To: edwinland; ransomnote
I'm not making it sound like facts don't matter. In fact I believe facts do matter, that's why I highlighted the clickbait lie that is this article.

'Clickbait' seems to be the new majic word to make facts disappear in the twinkling of an eye.

This new vax troll is a one trick 'clickbait' pony. Everything's clickbait, therefore nothing is true. Which leaves us only with the Witch Doctor Fauci's 'truth.

As to the CDC data I literally don't know if it makes sense or not.

Then why are you opening your Fauci look-a-like contest winner's yap?

If it's not a lie, fly to Japan and instantly lower your risk of heart disease.

Flying to Japan is not the same as pumping poison into your body.

#FailedAnalogy


94 posted on 10/25/2021 11:16:49 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: SiGeek
The only mention that sounds like a cause is in references 7 and 8 which are > 10 year old similar studies about the flu shot. Ie the distinction is between the behavior or life circumstances of those who CHOOSE jab/no-jab, not a medical effect of the jab. Correlation not causation.

Dear Mister Geek,

Behavior and life circumstances may have affected chosing to be vaccinated for the flu in the past. In fact, I can see that connection.

But these are not normal times or normal circumstances. People are being forced to take the 'jab' by a combination of fear propaganda, peer pressure, governmment and workplace coercion these days.

So your theory is dooky.


95 posted on 10/25/2021 11:21:06 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: ransomnote
It must simply be a new form of the hoary old "No True Scotsman" Fallacy.

If you are vaccinated but nevertheless die - of anything - then it must be because you aren't really vaccinated.

Regards,

96 posted on 10/25/2021 11:22:23 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: bagster

97 posted on 10/25/2021 11:22:26 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: bagster; ransomnote
Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science?

Since you are so wise, please point me to the part in the CD report where it says that your mortality risk "drops by 72% after you get vaccinated" as opposed to the possibility that people who choose to get vaccinated might be more healthy to begin with.

I'll wait.

98 posted on 10/25/2021 11:24:16 AM PDT by edwinland
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To: edwinland

I believe the CDC is certainly implying mortality “drops” when you get the jab when they say “lower rates of mortality” without explaining the cause (because they don’t know the cause). They believe the study confirms the safety profile of the jab.

The cohort left out of the study (since this is humans and not beagles) are those from the vaccinated population who unknowingly got a placebo instead. IOW their life circumstances and behavior match the vaccinated group.

The mortality could be better, could be worse. It’s unknown based on this study.

If the mRNA cures accidents and other poor life choices or circumstances, the CDC should own it and promote it on that basis.

Also, what about long term side effects since the jab has been out < 1 year and vaccines are typically tested > 5 years before approval?

Also, what if mass vaccination of healthy people actually favors covid variants that prolong the pandemic and kill more people?


100 posted on 10/25/2021 11:32:14 AM PDT by SiGeek
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