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To: edwinland

I believe the CDC is certainly implying mortality “drops” when you get the jab when they say “lower rates of mortality” without explaining the cause (because they don’t know the cause). They believe the study confirms the safety profile of the jab.

The cohort left out of the study (since this is humans and not beagles) are those from the vaccinated population who unknowingly got a placebo instead. IOW their life circumstances and behavior match the vaccinated group.

The mortality could be better, could be worse. It’s unknown based on this study.

If the mRNA cures accidents and other poor life choices or circumstances, the CDC should own it and promote it on that basis.

Also, what about long term side effects since the jab has been out < 1 year and vaccines are typically tested > 5 years before approval?

Also, what if mass vaccination of healthy people actually favors covid variants that prolong the pandemic and kill more people?


100 posted on 10/25/2021 11:32:14 AM PDT by SiGeek
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To: SiGeek
I believe the CDC is certainly implying mortality “drops” when you get the jab when they say “lower rates of mortality” without explaining the cause (because they don’t know the cause). They believe the study confirms the safety profile of the jab.

I was hoping you would say that, because it's so easily disproven, which you would know if you read the CDC's discussion:

The lower mortality risk after COVID-19 vaccination suggests substantial healthy vaccinee effects (i.e., vaccinated persons tend to be healthier than unvaccinated persons) (7,8), which will be explored in future analyses. Mortality rates among Janssen vaccine recipients were not as low as those among mRNA vaccine recipients. This finding might be because of differences in risk factors, such as underlying health status and risk behaviors among recipients of mRNA and Janssen vaccines that might also be associated with mortality risk.

Among persons aged 12–17 years, mortality risk did not differ between Pfizer-BioNTech vaccinees and unvaccinated persons; only 12 deaths occurred in this age group during the study period. The unvaccinated group might be more similar to the vaccinated group in risk factors than are vaccinated and unvaccinated adults.

As to your other points:

Also, what about long term side effects since the jab has been out < 1 year and vaccines are typically tested > 5 years before approval?

Also, what if mass vaccination of healthy people actually favors covid variants that prolong the pandemic and kill more people?

Those are both real issues and should be highlighted. But if you want to be seen as credible when you highlight them, it's best to be able to display an ability to discern between real issues and lies.

106 posted on 10/25/2021 11:50:54 AM PDT by edwinland
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