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Betelgeuse Is Neither as Far Nor as Large as We Thought, And It's a Total Bummer
www.sciencealert.com ^ | MIKE MCRAE 16 OCTOBER 2020

Posted on 10/16/2020 8:42:10 AM PDT by Red Badger

(ALMA - ESO/NAOJ/NRAO, E/O'Gorman/P.Kervella)

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In the wake of recent fluctuations in Betelgeuse's brightness, astronomers have rigorously examined the star's vital statistics, and come up with a bit of a surprise.

According to the team led by researchers at Australian National University (ANU), the results change a few important things about our favourite red giant.

"The actual physical size of Betelgeuse has been a bit of a mystery – earlier studies suggested it could be bigger than the orbit of Jupiter," says astronomer László Molnár from the Konkoly Observatory in Hungary.

"Our results say Betelgeuse only extends out to two thirds of that, with a radius 750 times the radius of the Sun."

Betelgeuse has always been somewhat difficult to map with much accuracy. Forget the textbook picture of a star, spinning neatly as a relatively smooth sphere, and picture something more like a pulsating blob with fuzzy edges.

In 1920, interference patterns among its light waves were used to come up with an angular diameter – the width of Betelgeuse's starlight as it hangs in our sky – of close to 47 milliarcseconds.

Based on an assumed distance of around 180 light years, the red star was initially thought to have a diameter equivalent to around two and a half times the distance between Earth and the Sun.

Since then there have been many more attempts to drag a metaphorical measuring tape around Betelgeuse's butt.

Revisions of its location in the past few years pushed it further back to a distance of 724 light years away, where those 47 milliarcseconds represented something more like 1,300 times the diameter of the Sun; a diameter that would see Betelgeuse swallow up planets roughly in Jupiter's orbit.

Such numbers, including numerous stabs at its overall mass, paint a picture of a supergiant star rapidly approaching a stage in its life when it will theoretically collapse and explode in a shining ball of amazing that would be visible to the naked eye.

Unexpected dimming in the star's luminosity in recent years even drew excited whispers of whether it was some sort of Betelgeuse death wheeze, turning all of us stargazers into ghoulish relatives at a rich aunt's hospital bed.

It's now believed that clouds of dust were responsible for at least one of the events. And the other one, it seems, shows just how healthy our old Aunt Betelgeuse is.

"We found the second smaller event was likely due to the pulsations of the star," says ANU astrophysicist Meridith Joyce, who led the study.

Pulsations like those observed in Betelgeuse are typically the result of pressure waves coursing through the burning innards of a star. Our own Sun has waves rippling throughout its body, which tells a lot about its makeup deep inside.

Using information collected with the space-based Solar Mass Ejection Imager prior to Betelgeuse's recent drop in luminosity, the research team developed models of the star's activity to come up with a better sense of just how close to retirement it really was.

"It's burning helium in its core at the moment, which means it's nowhere near exploding," says Joyce.

"We could be looking at around 100,000 years before an explosion happens."

The results also allowed the researchers to deduce the giant's radius, shaving a third off its previous girth. Based on this new figure, Betelgeuse can't be more than 700 light years away, either.

"Our results show it's a mere 530 light years from us – 25 per cent closer than previous thought," says Molnár.

Look, we're all a little disappointed. It's been four centuries since a supernova has been observable to the naked eye, and we feel we're owed a decent star funeral.

Now that we know Betelgeuse is even closer to us than we thought, it's sure to be one heck of a display when it does eventually collapse. If you're at all concerned about the new seating arrangements, at 530 light years we still won't be close enough to feel the heat of its radiation either.

For whatever passes for a scientist in 100,000 CE, these front row seats will certainly be an opportunity.

"It's still a really big deal when a supernova goes off. And this is our closest candidate. It gives us a rare opportunity to study what happens to stars like this before they explode," says Joyce.

This research was published in The Astrophysical Journal.


TOPICS: Astronomy; Education; History; Science
KEYWORDS: astronomy; australia; betelgeuse; science; stringtheory; supernova
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To: Red Badger

If Betelgeuse is 530 light years away, it could have exploded in 1492 and we will find out about it in a couple of years.


21 posted on 10/16/2020 8:59:37 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Army Air Corps; 6SJ7; AdmSmith; AFPhys; Arkinsaw; allmost; aristotleman; autumnraine; bajabaja; ...
Thanks Army Air Corps. I won't try posting one of the common jokes without checking the thread first. ;^)

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22 posted on 10/16/2020 9:00:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Red Badger

“For whatever passes for a scientist in 100,000 CE, these front row seats will certainly be an opportunity.”

Future Al Gore is excited.


23 posted on 10/16/2020 9:01:58 AM PDT by angmo (America invented the Moon, so we could go there.)
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To: NativeSon

It’s also an 1930’s-50’s antique car from Australia...................


24 posted on 10/16/2020 9:02:07 AM PDT by Red Badger (Sine Q-Anon.....................very............)
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To: Red Badger

Ah...the sure results of science...


25 posted on 10/16/2020 9:04:32 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: Red Badger

The diameter fluctuates with the brightness.


26 posted on 10/16/2020 9:05:54 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Getready

27 posted on 10/16/2020 9:06:27 AM PDT by Red Badger (Sine Q-Anon.....................very............)
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To: Red Badger

Wow! The light we’re seeing now was leaving Betelgeuse just as Columbus was getting his luggage together so he could go discover America!


28 posted on 10/16/2020 9:06:35 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The left hates President Trump most because he is a truth seeker and is on the Side of the Angels.)
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To: NativeSon
Ford Prefect lives practically around the corner.

Not where I want to be when a big red giant collapses.

I would be waiting in the Restaurant at the End of the Universe.

29 posted on 10/16/2020 9:07:19 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: Pontiac

Don’t Panic!


30 posted on 10/16/2020 9:07:36 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: smokingfrog

How do you know that it’s not vice versa?................


31 posted on 10/16/2020 9:07:50 AM PDT by Red Badger (Sine Q-Anon.....................very............)
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To: dfwgator

Too late

I forgot my towel.


32 posted on 10/16/2020 9:09:18 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: Red Badger
"We could be looking at around 100,000 years before an explosion happens."

So... I should hold off on popping the popcorn?

33 posted on 10/16/2020 9:11:15 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Savage Beast

More like the beginning of the Black Plague. I tell stoners that the light they see from Antares left around the time Columbus left for America. Blows their minds.


34 posted on 10/16/2020 9:13:38 AM PDT by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: angmo

In 100,000 AD the news will still be reporting that we have just 12 years to save the planet from Global Warming, and in just 5 years Flying Cars, the Cure for Cancer, Cure for Baldness, the Arctic will be ice free and re-newables will be competitive with fossil fuels all will happen!!


35 posted on 10/16/2020 9:13:55 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: MtnClimber

It’s a star. Pretty toasty.


36 posted on 10/16/2020 9:15:32 AM PDT by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: Red Badger
"Our results say Betelgeuse only extends out to two thirds of that, with a radius 750 times the radius of the Sun."

Poor little thing.

37 posted on 10/16/2020 9:18:45 AM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Red Badger
Well, them’s the breaks...I've always preferred Antares.
38 posted on 10/16/2020 9:22:01 AM PDT by PerConPat (A politician is an animal that can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground--Mencken)
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To: Red Badger

Now I’m depressed.


39 posted on 10/16/2020 9:34:02 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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To: Red Badger
Among other gems...

Since then there have been many more attempts to drag a metaphorical measuring tape around Betelgeuse's butt.

40 posted on 10/16/2020 9:51:00 AM PDT by Egon
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