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Insight into competitive advantage of modern humans over Neanderthals
EurekAlert! ^ | September 29, 2019 | Tohoku University

Posted on 10/07/2019 7:33:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

A team of Japanese and Italian researchers, including from Tohoku University, have evidenced mechanically delivered projectile weapons in Europe dating to 45,000-40,000 years - more than 20,000 years than previously thought. This study, entitled "The earliest evidence for mechanically delivered projectile weapons in Europe" published in Nature Ecology & Evolution, indicated that the spearthrower and bow-and-arrow technologies allowed modern humans to hunt more successfully than Neanderthals - giving them a competitive advantage. This discovery offered important insight to understand the reasons for the replacement of Neanderthals by modern humans.

Apparently, Neanderthals and modern humans coexisted in Europe for at least 5,000 years. However, little is known about why modern humans could increase their population size after migrating to Europe and successfully occupy new territories, while autochthonous Neanderthals went extinct ~ 40,000 years ago...

Furthermore, fourier transform-infrared (FTIR) spectromicroscopy of residues on several pieces demonstrate that the backed pieces were hafted using a complex adhesive, including ochre, plant gum, and beeswax, which stabilized the hafting. "Comparison with FTIR spectroscopy analyses of several red deposit and soil samples recovered from Grotta del Cavallo ruled out organic contaminants from the burial environment and confirmed the presence of ochre as a mixture of silicate and iron oxides", said Chiaramaria Stani (Elettra-Sincrotrone Trieste).

(Excerpt) Read more at eurekalert.org ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: archaeology; godsgravesglyphs; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals
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To: SunkenCiv

I’m glad you said cause I’ve been feeling pretty cave man lately.


21 posted on 10/07/2019 8:14:07 PM PDT by Track9
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To: SunkenCiv
***the backed pieces were hafted using a complex adhesive, including ochre, plant gum, and beeswax, which stabilized the hafting***

The original Gorilla glue! :)

22 posted on 10/07/2019 8:16:52 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: minnesota_bound
Modern humans have assault rifles.

Damned Iron Age.

23 posted on 10/07/2019 8:34:37 PM PDT by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: wildcard_redneck; SunkenCiv
***smaller populations invent things less quickly because there's not enough people inventing***

But then there is Göbekli Tepe... or perhaps Puma Punku...

24 posted on 10/07/2019 8:35:27 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: Track9

I didn’t even know there were pretty cave men.

/rimshot


25 posted on 10/07/2019 8:46:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Dave Wright

More meat means more cancer and more heart attacks, which means shorter life spans. My mostly vegetarian parents & grand parents in India (they could afford only 1 meal with meat during the week) all lived 93-103 years, with zero history of cancer. I arrived in USA at age 20 and soon gained 50 lbs! I need to cut down on T-bones and rib-eye but it is addicting. My diet almost killed me, but then I took up walking 30 miles every week at age 58, and now feel great nearing age 80.


26 posted on 10/07/2019 8:47:28 PM PDT by entropy12 (You are either for free enterprise or for government price fixing. Can't be for both as convenient.)
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To: Bob Ireland

Of course, they had to hunt the bees one at a time, with tiny bows and arrows, that went on for thousands of years before someone got a better idea.


27 posted on 10/07/2019 8:47:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

May have looked pretty but the body odor would have made you pass out. Can you imagine no soap, no showers, walk many miles in African sun?


28 posted on 10/07/2019 8:50:00 PM PDT by entropy12 (You are either for free enterprise or for government price fixing. Can't be for both as convenient.)
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To: umgud
Yeah, they probably didn't even have a pc then, just cut a notch on a stick until the abacus was invented.

29 posted on 10/07/2019 8:50:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: entropy12
They were hidin' in caves, so, y'know, poor lighting, looks weren't that important. And without the aromas, they couldn't find one another. ;^)

30 posted on 10/07/2019 8:52:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Bob Ireland
I've begun to think the ancestors or potential ancestors built those amazing structures just to show off for their distant descendants. It worked. :^)

31 posted on 10/07/2019 8:55:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv
***they had to hunt the bees one at a time, with tiny bows and arrows, that went on for thousands of years before someone got a better idea***

:^D Add me to your ping list - if you have one, pls.

32 posted on 10/07/2019 8:59:21 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: HighSierra5
Hey, quit pickin' on Neandertals! Al Green isn't a slob, only because that would be insulting to slobs.

33 posted on 10/07/2019 9:11:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Bob Ireland

Welcome aboard. I know it’s past my bedtime, because the hunting bees image struck me as so funny I laughed for ten minutes.


34 posted on 10/07/2019 9:13:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv
***I've begun to think the ancestors or potential ancestors built those amazing structures just to show off for their distant descendants***

:^) That works as well, for me, as the current analysis: meager hunter-gatherers worked for 2000 years to build Göbekli Tepe... with no written language, no drafting materials, no engineering skills. Color me skeptical.

Of course there were those ancient aliens, also, coaching their ancestors. !:^0

35 posted on 10/07/2019 9:16:43 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: SunkenCiv
***the hunting bees image struck me as so funny I laughed for ten minutes***

...as did I with the gorilla glue - and the bees. True, I gotta fall in to the arms of Morpheus. nite

36 posted on 10/07/2019 9:21:15 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: SunkenCiv

“technologies allowed modern humans to hunt more successfully than Neanderthals - giving them a competitive advantage”

THERE it is - that nasty idea of “competitive advantage”. There should have been weapons control laws. That way, we’d still have Neanderthals running rampant, creating no-go zones, crime-ridden communities and such. Oh wait - we DO have those.


37 posted on 10/07/2019 9:53:18 PM PDT by bluejean (I'm becoming a cranky old person. It really annoys me.)
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To: Track9
There'a actually evidence from comparing the genes of modern Europeans that any admixture of Neanderthal genes in the genes that deal with speech and higher brain function were actively selected against, because these areas show almost zero admixture of Neanderthal genes.

What we got from Neanderthals were genes for the immune system (useful for humans who migrated out of Africa) and oddly enough some skin and hair color: one of the two genes for pale skin found in most people of European descent comes from Neanderthals as do the genes for red hair.

38 posted on 10/07/2019 9:58:48 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: SunkenCiv

Neanderthals went extinct due to their toxic masculinity. ;-)

By the way, Neanderthals had larger brains than modern humans. Intuitively, most people assume intelligence has an evolutionary advantage. Maybe not.

Those who are interested in evolutionary theory should check out the research by Donald Hoffman which includes a mathematical proof based on evolutionary game theory that perceiving reality as it is does NOT give an evolutionary advantage. He also supports a theory of reality in which space-time is purely a mental construct. This is not some new age idea or pseudo-science. He is extremely well respected for his scientific work and credentials.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYp5XuGYqqY

(A TED Talk.)


39 posted on 10/07/2019 9:59:39 PM PDT by unlearner (Be ready for war.)
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To: SunkenCiv

The Neanderthals aren’t gone, they’re still here. And the whiter you are, the more Neanderthal that’s in you. We didn’t out-compete them, we cross-bred with them until their phenotype became indistinguishable from ours.


40 posted on 10/07/2019 10:00:47 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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