Posted on 05/29/2019 5:50:09 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
In a major breakthrough in what could be the most fascinating story of our time, five U.S. Navy F/A-18 Super Hornet crewmen have recounted a number of incredibly strange encounters with unidentified flying objects off the East Coast of the United States. Two of the pilots went on the record. The surreal craft they encountered had performance that defies known propulsion and aerodynamic capabilities, and are described as looking like something akin to special effects you would have seen in a sci-fi movie circa the late 1980s. The pilots' accounts also point to a major sensor upgrade on their aircraft that made the presence of these craft even detectable at all.
What's even more important is that these events took place as recently as 2015, over a decade after the now famous Nimitz incident with the so-called 'Tic Tac' craft occurred. This is all coming to light—at least officially—just weeks after the U.S. Navy said it is changing its procedures for its service members reporting unexplained phenomenon in their operating environments.
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Lt. Ryan Graves, an F/A-18 Super Hornet pilot who has been in the Navy for a decade has come forward after talking to the Navy and Congress about the events he and his squadron mates witnessed between 2014 and 2015.
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“These things would be out there all day... Keeping an aircraft in the air requires a significant amount of energy. With the speeds we observed, 12 hours in the air is 11 hours longer than we’d expect.” Source: NYTimes article.
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According to Graves, Naval Aviators really began noticing the objects in their training areas after a major technological leap in air combat capability was fielded across much of the U.S. Navy's combat aircraft inventory [the AN/APG-79 Active Electronically Scanned Array radar].
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We examined this peculiar move by the Navy [the Navy's strange public announcement that they were changing the reporting procedures for these types of encounters] and the odd timing of it in great detail in my last article on the subject, and this series of events likely had something to do with it. Regardless, with all this in mind, what can we take away from these new on the record revelations?
First off, they are a huge deal. We are talking about two more Navy fighter pilots on the record and another three talking to The New York Times on background. And this was not some account that occurred a decade or more in the past, this was just a couple years ago. Yet what strikes me the most is that once again, this series of encounters occurred in tightly sanitized airspace over the ocean where the military does its most advanced and complex training and testing, just like the Nimitz's Tic Tac incident many years earlier on the west coast. In that case, the gear and personnel involved were also preparing for a major deployment.
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Actually, that is a completely rational question.
I think the pilots who have encounter these phenomena have stated that that question pretty much sums up their opinions thus far.
No one is suggesting aliens per se, but they are honestly curious as to what it is...and therein lies the newsworthiness of this matter.
If these "craft" are ours, why interfere with our training missions in restricted training zones in a way that might cost the lives of pilots and equipment?
If they are our enemies', they are in our restricted training zones and air space important to our national security. That's a BIG problem.
If they are something else entirely, well, that's an unknown, unknown and, as such, a different matter/risk altogether.
The REAL mystery lies somewhere in the middle with the evidence, such as it is.
Experience tells us that there is most likely a plausible explanation for this phenomena. But experience isn't always correct.
The important thing here is that national security is involved.
Personally, I don't think we have enough evidence to draw any conclusions yet. And I imagine that this is what is keeping folks in the Pentagon awake at night.
If they’ve been “visually confirmed” then they certainly should be recordable on video shouldn’t they? This UFO thing has been going on for decades and is kind of up there with the sasquatch question.
Agreed
And I imagine that this is what is keeping folks in the Pentagon awake at night.
I doubt that.
When I was deployed to Aviano in 1998, I happened upon a chat site at JPL where the scientists were debating the cat/buttered toast issue. They had all sorts of analytical data and supposition depending upon the type of cat, induced and parasitical friction, even down to which type of bread and butter. The best theory had to do with a hairless cat covered in goats butter, which lead to the discovery of perpetual motion and endless energy supplies.
Understood. Electricity is bi-polar and everything has a specific gravity. Gravity itself is mono-polar and has no mass, nor specific gravity since it is not a particle but a phenomena. Much like centrifugal force does not exit, but centripetal does, gravity cannot be studied directly but only by inference.
You don’t think those in the Pentagon would lose sleep if they thought our enemies had drones that could enter our airspace in ways that are basically undetectable and had been doing so for the last 16 years (not sure if the USS Nimitz phenomena were actually in our airspace, but they seem to have had that ability)?
LOL just picturing that...
They don’t worry about things until its a verified threat. They focus on the missions they are budgeted for. If you ever worked for DoD, you would know this. The real world is not the Hollywood world.
Virtue signaling is beneath you.
Discounting my own experience as 'virtue signaling' is a liberal silencing tactic.
The upper atmosphere has a lot of physics we don’t understand very well.
Ill expand your statement. The entire universe is filled with lots of physics we don’t understand.
No one is discounting your experience. But BTW virtue signaling is something liberals do...and something conservatives call them on.
Using your own experience to brag is what is known as virtue signaling.
No one is "discounting your experience." If you have experience with the DOD that others at FR don't have, I think we would all benefit from that.
Using experience to explain something is not virtue signaling. Virtue signaling is, for example, claiming that I am better than you because I drive an electric car to save the environment (I don't and it doesn't), or looking down on another because I buy all my clothes from the natural fiber store (again, I don't).
I don't know here you got 'bragging' from my comment. But I am not going to battle stations over it.
Heheh. Yeah, right.
+. Most likely an undocumented feature!
Like it. My favorite movie.
There is a great deal of lore regarding those things, and physical evidence does exist. One interesting story is Train hits UFO
Mockery is a frequent tool used on folks who have witnessed unusual sightings or even on those who would prefer to have a serious conversation. Instead of mocking people, do some reading. There is substance to UFO stories, certainly thousands of credible witnesses.
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