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Multiple F/A-18 Pilots Disclose Recent UFOs Encounters, New Radar Tech Key In Detection
thedrive.com/the-war-zone ^ | Tyler Rogoway

Posted on 05/29/2019 5:50:09 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

In a major breakthrough in what could be the most fascinating story of our time, five U.S. Navy F/A-18 Super Hornet crewmen have recounted a number of incredibly strange encounters with unidentified flying objects off the East Coast of the United States. Two of the pilots went on the record. The surreal craft they encountered had performance that defies known propulsion and aerodynamic capabilities, and are described as looking like something akin to special effects you would have seen in a sci-fi movie circa the late 1980s. The pilots' accounts also point to a major sensor upgrade on their aircraft that made the presence of these craft even detectable at all.

What's even more important is that these events took place as recently as 2015, over a decade after the now famous Nimitz incident with the so-called 'Tic Tac' craft occurred. This is all coming to light—at least officially—just weeks after the U.S. Navy said it is changing its procedures for its service members reporting unexplained phenomenon in their operating environments.

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Lt. Ryan Graves, an F/A-18 Super Hornet pilot who has been in the Navy for a decade has come forward after talking to the Navy and Congress about the events he and his squadron mates witnessed between 2014 and 2015.

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“These things would be out there all day... Keeping an aircraft in the air requires a significant amount of energy. With the speeds we observed, 12 hours in the air is 11 hours longer than we’d expect.” Source: NYTimes article.

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According to Graves, Naval Aviators really began noticing the objects in their training areas after a major technological leap in air combat capability was fielded across much of the U.S. Navy's combat aircraft inventory [the AN/APG-79 Active Electronically Scanned Array radar].

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We examined this peculiar move by the Navy [the Navy's strange public announcement that they were changing the reporting procedures for these types of encounters] and the odd timing of it in great detail in my last article on the subject, and this series of events likely had something to do with it. Regardless, with all this in mind, what can we take away from these new on the record revelations?

First off, they are a huge deal. We are talking about two more Navy fighter pilots on the record and another three talking to The New York Times on background. And this was not some account that occurred a decade or more in the past, this was just a couple years ago. Yet what strikes me the most is that once again, this series of encounters occurred in tightly sanitized airspace over the ocean where the military does its most advanced and complex training and testing, just like the Nimitz's Tic Tac incident many years earlier on the west coast. In that case, the gear and personnel involved were also preparing for a major deployment.

(Excerpt) Read more at thedrive.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science; UFO's
KEYWORDS: astronomy; aviation; davidfravor; fringe; nimitzencounters; ohsomysteriouso; sanclemente; santacatalina; science; thenimitzencounters; tictac; ufo; ufos
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To: Magnum44
After all, if its not us, and its not our enemies, who else could it be?

Actually, that is a completely rational question.

I think the pilots who have encounter these phenomena have stated that that question pretty much sums up their opinions thus far.

No one is suggesting aliens per se, but they are honestly curious as to what it is...and therein lies the newsworthiness of this matter.

If these "craft" are ours, why interfere with our training missions in restricted training zones in a way that might cost the lives of pilots and equipment?

If they are our enemies', they are in our restricted training zones and air space important to our national security. That's a BIG problem.

If they are something else entirely, well, that's an unknown, unknown and, as such, a different matter/risk altogether.

61 posted on 05/29/2019 8:11:33 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Magnum44
I ignore the "fringe" posters who automatically jump to an alien explanation or automatically jump to a position which focuses on ridicule of those who jump to an alien explanation.

The REAL mystery lies somewhere in the middle with the evidence, such as it is.

Experience tells us that there is most likely a plausible explanation for this phenomena. But experience isn't always correct.

The important thing here is that national security is involved.

Personally, I don't think we have enough evidence to draw any conclusions yet. And I imagine that this is what is keeping folks in the Pentagon awake at night.

62 posted on 05/29/2019 8:20:18 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: atc23

63 posted on 05/29/2019 8:21:00 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: atc23

If they’ve been “visually confirmed” then they certainly should be recordable on video shouldn’t they? This UFO thing has been going on for decades and is kind of up there with the sasquatch question.


64 posted on 05/29/2019 8:21:13 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: RoosterRedux
I don't think we have enough evidence to draw any conclusions yet.

Agreed

And I imagine that this is what is keeping folks in the Pentagon awake at night.

I doubt that.

65 posted on 05/29/2019 8:22:47 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: Magnum44

When I was deployed to Aviano in 1998, I happened upon a chat site at JPL where the scientists were debating the cat/buttered toast issue. They had all sorts of analytical data and supposition depending upon the type of cat, induced and parasitical friction, even down to which type of bread and butter. The best theory had to do with a hairless cat covered in goats butter, which lead to the discovery of perpetual motion and endless energy supplies.


66 posted on 05/29/2019 8:24:22 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: NorthMountain

Understood. Electricity is bi-polar and everything has a specific gravity. Gravity itself is mono-polar and has no mass, nor specific gravity since it is not a particle but a phenomena. Much like centrifugal force does not exit, but centripetal does, gravity cannot be studied directly but only by inference.


67 posted on 05/29/2019 8:27:45 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Magnum44

You don’t think those in the Pentagon would lose sleep if they thought our enemies had drones that could enter our airspace in ways that are basically undetectable and had been doing so for the last 16 years (not sure if the USS Nimitz phenomena were actually in our airspace, but they seem to have had that ability)?


68 posted on 05/29/2019 8:29:28 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: rjsimmon
hairless cat covered in goats butter

LOL just picturing that...


69 posted on 05/29/2019 8:29:31 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: RoosterRedux

They don’t worry about things until its a verified threat. They focus on the missions they are budgeted for. If you ever worked for DoD, you would know this. The real world is not the Hollywood world.


70 posted on 05/29/2019 8:33:07 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: Magnum44
If you ever worked for DoD, you would know this. The real world is not the Hollywood world.

Virtue signaling is beneath you.

71 posted on 05/29/2019 8:39:09 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux
Imagining that hard working folks in the DoD, Pentagon or anywhere else, are losing sleep over some unverified UFO report that is still under investigation and may be nothing more than a new radar system bug, or likewise may be friendly operations of experimental systems by other agencies besides DoD, is, well, just imagination. The folks at DoD have their hands full assessing the many real threats in this world, and determining how to address those threats in a balanced way given limited resources.

Discounting my own experience as 'virtue signaling' is a liberal silencing tactic.

72 posted on 05/29/2019 8:46:17 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: Magnum44

The upper atmosphere has a lot of physics we don’t understand very well.


73 posted on 05/29/2019 8:47:50 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily

Ill expand your statement. The entire universe is filled with lots of physics we don’t understand.


74 posted on 05/29/2019 8:49:30 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: Magnum44
Discounting my own experience as 'virtue signaling' is a liberal silencing tactic.

No one is discounting your experience. But BTW virtue signaling is something liberals do...and something conservatives call them on.

Using your own experience to brag is what is known as virtue signaling.

No one is "discounting your experience." If you have experience with the DOD that others at FR don't have, I think we would all benefit from that.

75 posted on 05/29/2019 8:56:34 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux
Using your own experience to brag is what is known as virtue signaling.

Using experience to explain something is not virtue signaling. Virtue signaling is, for example, claiming that I am better than you because I drive an electric car to save the environment (I don't and it doesn't), or looking down on another because I buy all my clothes from the natural fiber store (again, I don't).

I don't know here you got 'bragging' from my comment. But I am not going to battle stations over it.

76 posted on 05/29/2019 9:02:14 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: Magnum44

Heheh. Yeah, right.


77 posted on 05/29/2019 9:03:40 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Yo-Yo

+. Most likely an undocumented feature!


78 posted on 05/29/2019 9:06:39 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Kickass Conservative
Tagline...

Like it. My favorite movie.

79 posted on 05/29/2019 9:37:25 AM PDT by Oatka
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To: Kommodor
There is nothing obvious regarding UFO sightings. If they were anxious to engage us in some manner, they certainly had many years to do so. Maybe instead they are here to enforce a quarantine.

There is a great deal of lore regarding those things, and physical evidence does exist. One interesting story is Train hits UFO

Mockery is a frequent tool used on folks who have witnessed unusual sightings or even on those who would prefer to have a serious conversation. Instead of mocking people, do some reading. There is substance to UFO stories, certainly thousands of credible witnesses.

80 posted on 05/29/2019 12:36:25 PM PDT by GingisK
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