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Multiple F/A-18 Pilots Disclose Recent UFOs Encounters, New Radar Tech Key In Detection
thedrive.com/the-war-zone ^ | Tyler Rogoway

Posted on 05/29/2019 5:50:09 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

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To: Magnum44

You know full ell that UFO does not directly indicate aliens. The US government does have another identification for those: IAC, Identified Alien Contact.


81 posted on 05/29/2019 12:38:35 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK
UFO does not directly indicate aliens

My point exactly.

82 posted on 05/29/2019 12:41:04 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: JimRed
Makes good sense to shoot one down, being that they have the technology to come here from great distances. Provoking a war with the unknown is excellent tactics. < /sarcasm>

On the other hand, lore has it that such attempts were made, resulting in downed jet fighters. One such intercept was that of an F-89 Scorpion over the Great Lakes. The fighter did not return.

Telephone linemen are all over the country, ready to observe what appears in the sky. Those fellows are called together from time to time for training or other purposes. They talk off topic as they get the chance. A lineman told me that a fellow he knows saw an F-4 Phantom being hauled out of the woods on a flatbed truck. As it moved, soldiers were in the process of pulling a tarp in place. The surfaces of the F-4 he saw looked like the hole patterns of pegboard, except black. Rumors around Fort Campbell at the time surrounded an F-4 intercept of a UFO over the "Bird Cage".

83 posted on 05/29/2019 12:50:58 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Magnum44

It also seems that “the more you know the less you know”.


84 posted on 05/29/2019 1:00:46 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

Terribly sorry, I suspect you missed the semi-seriousness behind the snark there.

If you want to know what I really think, it’s more like this. We live in a (mostly) three dimensional world. If we look at a two dimensional world, like a piece of paper, it is very simple in comparison.

If a two-dimensional creature were living in that paper world, and we were to interact with it by, oh, pressing our fingertip against it, or several, swiping it like a smartphone, what would that two dimensional creature think? Would it be confused and astounded? Perhaps.

A similar thing could be happening here. Extra-dimensional beings could be interacting with us in ways that we do not understand. Why? Well, perhaps they’re aliens from Ice Planet X. Perhaps they’re angels and demons. Will we ever know for sure? I dunno.

But you’re more inclined to believe the latter, and have read the book, you might just suspect what’s coming.

And if you suspect what’s coming, you can suspect what their message is.

Worship the beast.
Wear his mark.
No-one can buy or sell without his mark.

And how do we get there?

Socialism

And how do we get socialism?

Well, for starters, disarm the patriots, because they’re all that’s left, the last line of defense, so to speak.

And why do our ‘friends’ on the left seem to pursue their agenda with such a ‘religious’ fervor? I dunno, but sometimes, stuff like this makes me wonder. Because it sure seems like they act as though they’re answering to a higher power, and it’s (apparently) not the same one that I believe in.

So, yeah, UFOs, sure, whatever. I’ll believe it when the LGMs step out on the White House lawn and demand a meeting with the President. In the meantime, we have our own aliens, angels and demons to deal with, and it would probably be best if we spent our time and focus on that, because the LGM aren’t coming to save us.

(No snark intended this time. Have a good day. :)


85 posted on 05/29/2019 1:13:36 PM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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To: Kommodor

Nice recap, and very sensible.


86 posted on 05/29/2019 1:18:11 PM PDT by GingisK
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Realclearpolitics picked up this UFO story line today with a link to an article in the Washington Examiner from yesterday.

Here is the better part of it (link to the Examiner embedded in title)...

Why the UFO story is far more interesting than you think

by Tom Rogan

| May 28, 2019 03:41 PM

The New York Times has made waves with a new report on sightings by U.S. Navy aviators of unidentified flying objects between 2014 and 2015. But the UFO issue, which follows a similar 2017 story, is far more interesting than the reporters let on.

The U.S. government does not know what these UFOs actually are. The report focuses on witnesses of so-called "Tic Tacs," but other shapes and sizes of UFOs have also been credibly recorded by the U.S., British, Chinese, Russian, and other governments for the past 65 years. But what are these strange things?

Most informed individuals I have talked to believe that the Tic Tac-like UFOs are unmanned vehicles operating under direction from either a manned or larger unmanned vessel. A particularly interesting evidentiary point here is the witness testimony by Cmdr. David Fravor during his time as commanding officer for a naval fighter squadron assigned to the Nimitz carrier strike group. In the November 2004 Nimitz incident, Fravor describes seeing both the Tic Tacs and "something in the water... looks like waves are going to crash over the top and you're going to get this white-water."

Some discredit these witness reports. The New York Times report, for example, interviews astrophysicist Leon Golub. Golub suggests that the aircrew testimony is a result of "bugs in the code for the imaging and display systems, atmospheric effects and reflections, neurological overload from multiple inputs during high-speed flight."

I strongly disagree, because the credible witness statements are numerous, matched to data recordings, and associated with a far larger set of similar incidents currently not public. But while natural phenomena such as that under the theoretical phenomena of ball lightning is a strong possibility in some UFO cases, I strongly believe other UFOs reported by naval aviators and other military professionals are not natural phenomena.

First, UFOs have repeatedly shown what seems to be intelligence in their operation and behavior-response to manned aircraft and monitoring systems in their vicinity. I am led to believe that the Russians (including in the Soviet era) have repeatedly tried and failed to shoot down UFOs, which have practiced evasive techniques.

In addition, UFOs have shown an ability to travel at hypersonic speeds with anti-gravity characteristics. Some underwater phenomena are also capable of supercavitation speeds of hundreds of miles per hour underwater. Note that when it comes to underwater objects, the recorded size indicates they are not torpedoes or vessels of any known type.

Third, UFOs manifest a continuing and special interest in military-nuclear technology (I believe it is notable that credible sightings began following the first use of atomic weapons). Former nuclear forces officers have testified that UFOs have, on occasion, even deactivated U.S. nuclear missiles during test operations.

Fourth, UFOs often show evidence of plasma manipulation, possibly in relation to manifested cloaking capabilities.

I am also extraordinarily confident these UFOs are not the creation of any current government or private interest. They are definitely not U.S. in origin, and they are far in advance of Chinese and Russian capabilities — including in the field of hypersonic capabilities (which the Russians lead in).

Read the rest of the article at the Washington Examiner.


87 posted on 05/29/2019 5:03:25 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Ozark Tom

Borg cubes with cloaking devices. We are F’d!


88 posted on 05/29/2019 5:38:19 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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