Posted on 03/23/2019 9:03:01 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Cutting carbs has become a go-to strategy for runners and cyclists looking to cut weight. Now, research suggests it might be wise to cut that out, or at least approach cutting carbs with caution.
That’s because people consuming a low proportion of their daily calories from carbohydrates like grains, fruits, and starchy vegetables appear to be significantly more likely to develop atrial fibrillation (AFib)—an irregular heart rhythm that can raise your risk of blood clots or stroke, according to preliminary research set to be presented at the American College of Cardiology’s annual meeting.
The study analyzed the health records and dietary intake of nearly 14,000 people from 1985 to 2016. At the beginning of the study, none of the participants had AFib. Nearly 1,900 were diagnosed with the condition over the course of 22 years.
The researchers discovered that those who reported having a low carbohydrate intake were the most likely to develop AFib. Specifically, those who ate fewer than 45 percent of their diet from carbs were 18 percent more likely to develop AFib than those who had a moderate carb intake of 45 to 52 percent of daily calories from carbs. They were also 16 percent more likely to develop the heart rhythm disorder than those eating a high-carb diet of more than 52 percent of calories from carbs.
“Low carbohydrate diets were associated with increased risk of incident AFib regardless of the type of protein or fat used to replace the carbohydrate,” said the study’s lead author Xiaodong Zhuang, M.D., Ph.D., a cardiologist at the hospital affiliated with Sun Yat-Sen University in Guangzhou, China, in a press release.
(Excerpt) Read more at runnersworld.com ...
I ate low carb for years. I also lifted weights and jogged for most of my life. On 12/26/18 I had a massive heart attack. EMTs did 6 minutes of CPR and shocked me twice. I am only here because 3 things went exactly right. What got me? Genetics. My father died of a heart attack one year younger than I am now. Low carb may work for you, maybe it won’t. All the studies in the world can’t say what will work for YOU. I believe you will lose weight eating low carb, but I don’t have a clue as to how it will affect your long term health, and no one else does either.
What is the difference between arguing and debating?
*** “Please consider your approach to discussion. Through this thread, you’ve:
- Insulted those who disagree with you;
- Appealed to authority by claiming a plurality of studies supports your condition;
- Declined to cite said studies, claiming a bias among search engines
- Claimed special knowledge of the subject but refused to share either any knowledge or the means by which someone might share your conclusions (e.g., a search phrase? “Search X AND Y -Z” isn’t domain specialized knowledge)” ***
Pretty much sums it up, I would only add arguing in this setting is akin to attempting dialog with a 3 year old throwing a temper tantrum on isle 4 of the local Walmart.
Sometimes you just walk away to correct the situation.
“If you know anything about FR you’ll know the community is very good at getting at truth.”
Destroying your logic in one sentence:
Search FR for pit bull. Furthermore, I was banned from FR years ago for questioning the status quo on a particular POTUS, my vindication represented with numerous metaphorical scars. People believe what they want to believe and there is always one who...eh. I really don’t care to parry with a nattering nabob. You truly do not understand the psychology of health; there’s a reason people adhere to their decisions no matter the consequences which are, as cited, easily-accessible to anyone who chooses to look.
If you have your health, kudos. I now do after years of decline. I chose to share my experience by writing a blog post; it turned into a quarter million words, 1000+ references and 4 volumes as a result of understanding both why my health declined and how what I did recovered my health. In the process I have managed to reach people who bothered to undergo my methodology and achieve like-results.
That stated, it’s come at significant expense: I’ve expended years and hundreds of hours engaging people with chronic health conditions THAT I REVERSED and, even though they sit right in front of me and have a solution within arms’ reach (literally), they retreat to the disturbed comfort of their illness.
Case-in-point: I reversed a lifetime of seasonal allergies. Gone. Cured. No shots, no tricks. It was an unintended side-effect of my methodology. I never set out to cure my allergies; I’d accepted them as normal (there’s a lesson in there).
I’ve spoken to and reached hundreds of people who also suffer debilitating seasonal allergies.
Guess how many of those have approached me for help in curing their own allergies: Not a one. There again is that ‘lesson’.
It would literally take a federal declaration of danger by keto to make any impact with some adherents, thus any reference provided openly by little old me is a total waste of time. To-wit, it takes a hammer to get people’s’ attention on health matters; I’ve been rather reserved, I respond when asked for help and have done so kindly in response.
And, by the way, the key to all of this is top-secret. I haven’t even told myself in the mirror the new title of my 4th volume, let alone the approach. If you can’t appreciate guarding my own intellectual property by avoiding ‘loose lips’ mentality (the latter being the epitome of self-gratification), I don’t know what to tell you.
If the solution to everyone’s health issues was in a box, bottle or ‘diet’, it would be national policy. They so-called ‘Food Pyramid’...er, ‘MyPyramid’...er ‘MyPlate’...yeah, those really nailed the dietary issues facing America, didn’t they? There’s a reason I refer to the ‘trifecta’ aligned against us all. Ironically, there’s a rather Conservative approach in my efforts, but you’ll have to wait for the details.
I submit that the solution to most everyone’s health problem lies outside the box. I also submit that there are incredible pressures to get people to retreat ‘within’ the box, some of them self-reinforcing. At that moment people become victimized. Think about it...
The study analyzed the health records and dietary intake of nearly 14,000 people from 1985 to 2016. At the beginning of the study, none of the participants had AFib. Nearly 1,900 were diagnosed with the condition over the course of 22 years.
Nothing was stated as to how the population and the sample was taken. Was it taken from purely athletes or a combination of athletes and non-athletes. Nor were ages specified. The older one gets, the less athletic they are thus the higher chance to go into afib. Also what about hereditary factors. Heart disease-prone individuals are more likely to show heart disease in the family. This study is incomplete until more factors are taken into consideration and is repeatable. As low carb diets have, through more than one study, to be more beneficial due to the diet intake. Athletes who want to lose weight and go on a low carb diet may possibly not getting enough carbs to fuel their activities. Depending on the level of activity determines how much carbs one should take in. Bicyclists are said to need to replace certain things in their bodies, carbs being one if their activity is high and goes on longer than the amount of energy stored in their body. (trying to keep this simple.) This research is in serious doubt as it is another attack on low-carb/high protein diets. What is the alternative? McDonald’s? The food pyramid? The food pyramid is what makes people fat just by looking at it. What about diabetics? They need a low-carb high protein diet to maintain their glucose levels. Are some of these people not athletes as well? Carbs (mostly starches) are processed into glucose in the body. Ever see the results of a diabetic eat egg pasta or a baked potato? Their levels spike! Again this research is highly questionable.
I guess I shouldn’t trust my own lying eyes. keto has worked great for me and my family.
Tell us what vital nutrient is lost in not eating carbs. Your research is lacking...
How much fiber do you think the traditional Inuit, Masi, Souix, or Mongol diet contained? Fiber is not key.
What is the fat, protein, carb composition you are advocating.
What fat is in your recommendation? Saturated, or vegetable?
What vegetables? One cannot eat enough green vegetables to maintain weight. What are you suggesting?
Your free advice is incredibly lacking coming from such a enlightened perspective.
There’s exponentially more fuel in fat than glucose stores in muscle and blood.
This “new” trend is actually the standard diet of many cultures.
There are no vital nutrients found in carbs, nor are there long term health issues from cutting them. At least from what I’ve found. Tell me what I’m missed no from your research in the necessity of carbs..
Are you a dietitian, or a doctor to retain such idiocy and advocate it in public?
Must have been difficult being a Souix Indian prior to their introduction to carbs. Wonder why diabetes is now an issue when it wasn’t heard of 100 years ago?
In early or mid-2017, I was diagnosed with Type 2. That scared me. I lost 20 lbs and changed my diet and added many herbs to my daily food intake.
Moringa powder, bitter melon, flax, chia, maca root powder, ginger, Ceylon cinnamon, ginger, cayenne pepper, avocado oil, coconut oil, olive oil, vinegar with the mother, Santa Cruz brand lemon juice, 1,560 mg omega 3 from fish oil, raw cacao, turmeric, garlic oil, figs, walnuts, almonds, dried apricots, coconut sugar, Medjool dates and goji berries.
I like Dr. Josh Axe and trust his opinion as much as anyone. www.draxe.com - You can search for the health benefits of the stuff in the above paragraph above. Not all are for fighting diabetes.
Junked all our Teflon cookware and now use only cast iron and carbon steel.
No more toothpaste containing fluoride. My family is now using 2 brands, Jason and Hello.
About 1 year later, I went in for a physical and was told my blood sugar was now normal. The Doc told me whatever I was doing, keep doing it.
If I cheat a few days straight, I get on a virtual no sugar diet for 7 days.
When sugar is necessary to make food or beverages edible or drinkable, it’s Dates, coconut sugar, or raw unfiltered honey.
But our home doesn’t have ANY processed cane sugar...no Splenda or any lab-created artificial sugars. We did have a box of Sweet Leaf Stevia, but that’s all gone and I won’t be buying any more.
I will look it up. Sounds interesting.
I’m glad you’re better. As it is, since I’m a runner, the whole low carb thing is kinda moot for me — I need some carbs to fuel my workouts. I’m just putting this article out there.
Ignorance is bliss, dude. Tell me why healthy-looking - even athletic - people drop dead of heart attacks, why those same people are more likely to express a multitude of serious conditions, including cancers.
Tell me why at the height of my health recovery with the epitome of a clean & whole-food diet my health became precipitously-worse.
You cannot, for no more complicated reason than you can’t even see the recklessness of starving the body of needed nutrients for mere vanity. Keto - as it is defined/outlined - is a path to disease for many people. The signs are stealthy with few indicators before serious symptoms express.
Don’t say no one ever warned you. Engaging bias to reinforce preconceived notions due to emotional reinforcement of short-term perceived benefits without balancing all of the spin/hyperbole with all of the other available information out there on a dietary regimen which they STILL cannot fully explain...is just a bit reckless.
Oh, by the way: Millions of people got sucked into the “fat is bad for you” mantra and thought it worked great for them, too...until a couple decades passed.
Look at our health landscape among those in the age bracket 50-70 today and you might get my point.
Or maybe not. /s I provided enough information to get anyone who wants to started.
That stated, since you demanded an answer and apparently don’t know how to use your browser to your benefit:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK499830/
“A ketogenic diet may be followed for a minimum of 2 to 3 weeks up to 6 to 12 months. Close monitoring of renal functions while on a ketogenic diet is imperative, and the transition from a ketogenic diet to a standard diet should be gradual and well controlled.”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1198735/
“The medical consequences of the ketogenic diet are another formidable but less well documented hurdle. Although underdocumentation is not altogether unusual in the case of newer therapies, the paucity of large-scale, long-term adverse-effect data for a well-established treatment regimen is disconcerting. Clinical studies and reviews of the ketogenic diet more often report quantitative measurements of efficacy, whereas relatively less information is available regarding medical complications. Exceptions exist: Balaban-Gil et al. reported a 10% rate of serious complication in 52 children with refractory epilepsy (9), and anecdotal reports of coma and death are often attributed to unmasked metabolic disorders (10,11). Although most clinicians are cognizant of the risks associated with the diet, an information gap remains regarding the prevalence of serious medical complications.”
Emphasis on the lack of available study of the adverse consequences. However, they do exist.
Perhaps you’ve never seen the terms “nutrient deficiency” and “metabolic acidosis” in any of the fawning articles promoting this reckless ‘diet’:
This article is by Dr. Loren Cordain, Professor Emeritus of the Department of Health and Exercise Science at Colorado State University in Fort Collins, Colorado.
https://thepaleodiet.com/ketogenic-diets-long-term-nutritional-and-metabolic-deficiencies/
It is your job to read the whole thing. After all, the health and safety of your family is at stake. My pull-quote from his summary:
“Amazingly, few objective nutritional guidelines for designing and evaluating the nutritional adequacy of contemporary ketogenic diets currently exist. Accordingly, millions of healthy people in the U.S. without symptoms of CVD or the metabolic syndrome are now recklessly following ketogenic diets, that are seemingly created by the whims of on-line bloggers and cookbook authors who have little knowledge of the nutrient makeup of the very diets they promote – diets which promote multiple nutrition deficiencies and increase the risk for many chronic diseases.”
Preemptive: I challenge anyone choosing to cite a bias in the latter article by the author to do so publicly and directly to the author.
And...just to be clear, I’m not too fond of many aspects of ‘paleo’ either. However, for those who absolutely must follow a ‘diet’ I recommend easing into Paleo and modifying according to my methodology.
There is no single ‘diet’ to be prescribed for all and there are a multitude of physical conditions which prescribe certain dietary restrictions. Phytates & Lectins name but a couple. Goitrogens are another critical concern.
One more thing for those who still takeaway my feedback on keto here as ‘hostile’:
This isn’t an opinion game on politics or the Constitution: This is life & death.
How would you feel if I sat idly-by and never wrote a word, holding my knowledge close to my chest until I could profit from my books when I have potentially life-saving advice on a reckless dietary regimen which opposes “what someone read on the internet”???
That’ll be $1984.00. /s
Yes.
When you put it that way, I have to agree. 900+ calories is quite decent for anyone doing an athletic pursuit, and I suspect that it is the MINIMUM required for such.
Thanks. Wouldn’t actually take much for the soy boys to become real men, either. Simply cut back your fattening carbs some and replace them with protein and fat, with rigorous workouts to increase your strength AND enhance testosterone production.
I loooooove OJ. Unfortunately, I inherited the tree sloth metabolism on my mother’s side of the family, so the only caloric liquid that I usually drink is beer. Other than that, just black coffee, unsweetened tea and water.
Thanks. The “you” in my reply was directed toward the reader, not necessarily the poster. Good post. Thanks again.
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