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Meat-heavy low-carb diets can 'shorten lifespan': study
Daily Mail ^ | August 16, 2018 | AFP

Posted on 08/18/2018 11:03:44 AM PDT by fireman15

Middle-aged people who get roughly half their daily calories from carbohydrates live several years longer on average than those with meat-heavy low-carb diets, researchers reported Friday. The findings, published in The Lancet medical journal, challenge a trend in Europe and North America toward so-called Paleo diets that shun carbohydrates in favour of animal protein and fat. Proponents of these "Stone Age" diets argue that the rapid shift 10,000 years ago -- with the advent of agriculture -- to grains, dairy and legumes has not allowed the human body enough time to adapt to these high-carb foods. For the study, receiving less than 40 percent of total energy intake from carbohydrates qualified as a low-carb regimen, though many such diets reduce the share to 20 percent or less. At the other extreme, a 70 percent or higher share of carbohydrates -- such as pasta, rice, cakes, sugary drinks -- can also reduce longevity, but by far less, the scientists found. "Low-carb diets that replace carbohydrates with protein or fat are gaining widespread popularity as a health and weight loss strategy," said lead author Sara Seidelmann, a researcher at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston. "However, our data suggests that animal-based low carbohydrate diets might be associated with shorter overall lifespan and should be discouraged." Replacing meat with plant-based fats (such as avocados and nuts) and proteins (such as soy products and lentils) reduces the risk of mortality, Seidelmann and her team found. The optimal balance of food groups for longevity remains hotly debated. Many studies have concluded that eating carbohydrates in moderation -- 45 to 55 percent of total calorie intake -- is best, but others report improved short-term, cardio-metabolic health with high-protein, high-fat diets.

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TOPICS: Education; Food; Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: atkins; carbs; diet; longevity; lowcarbdiet; meat; protein; replaceallmeat; saraseidelmann; soy; soyispoison; vegan; veganpropaganda; vegetarians; vegetariansonfr
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To: TheStickman

If you don't mind, could you please share exactly what you do eat now? Is it just meat, or meat & cheese, (no vegetables at all), or what? Thanks!

61 posted on 08/18/2018 12:03:31 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: grania

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She needs to drop the half&half, and switch to raw whole milk.

Pasteurized dairy products are deadly.


62 posted on 08/18/2018 12:03:59 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: kiryandil

160g carbs a day ???? And this is what they call low carb???? Holy crap, that would be like me adding 6 Krispy Kreme donuts to my daily diet!!!!!!!

What a joke.


63 posted on 08/18/2018 12:04:09 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: grania

Can you see my previous posts on this thread? I know exactly what is bothering your friend. To the keto diet she needs to feed her gut biome some resistant starch and I laid out how in another post I just wrote to another keto guy.


64 posted on 08/18/2018 12:05:36 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Mad Dawgg

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The garlic is better for you raw!

Just chew it while sipping water. Most powerful antibiotic on the planet.

It will clear out pnuemonia within a week. (usually quicker)


65 posted on 08/18/2018 12:07:21 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: TheStickman

My son in law has done what you did and he’s lost about 70 lbs. Meanwhile, I have a friend pushing this Octavian diet???? She loses some 5+ pounds per week!!! Seems a little high to me as you’d think slower is better.


66 posted on 08/18/2018 12:09:12 PM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: erlayman

“High protein’ diet is a misnomer. The only thing we really need to survive would be protein (our bacterial biome needs some carbs or starch) in its natural state,which always comes with the right amount of fats. But “high” is ridiculous. Every person depending on size and activity level needs x amount of protein, and it would not be high, to keep going with strength, growth, function. People might eat more than they need. But a serious athlete might do best on a diet with a relatively high weight of protein in it. No one needs more protein than their body needs to keep itself going.


67 posted on 08/18/2018 12:10:59 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: erlayman
High fat, medium protein, low carb.

That's what the diet is .

68 posted on 08/18/2018 12:11:40 PM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: katana

Yes, I was being a little facetious. I know that life expectancy is determined by a lot more than simply one’s diet.

I’d agree that genetics has a lot to do with it, and that if you live long enough, you’re going to die of something. I don’t worry too much about what I eat, but try to stay fairly active. Am I capable of doing what I could 40 years ago? Hell no, but I do get through each day without (much) assistance.


69 posted on 08/18/2018 12:12:13 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: Yaelle

You will have some vivid dreams and a bit more well being


Isn’t it interesting how diet affects dreaming?

When I take a B vitamin supplement my dreams become epic length Hollywood productions.


70 posted on 08/18/2018 12:13:05 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: grania

Grass fed meat/chicken and dairy is best...avoids some of nasties of cafo raised animals


71 posted on 08/18/2018 12:13:57 PM PDT by goodnesswins (White Privilege EQUALS Self Control & working 50-80 hrs/wk for 40 years!)
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To: editor-surveyor

Well, I guess that answers my question, then.

/eye-roll


72 posted on 08/18/2018 12:14:18 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: cicero2k

Sounds like the old push toward vegan. Whatever.

I can’t eat nuts so I will stick to good meat from healthy animals.


73 posted on 08/18/2018 12:14:23 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yardstick

Lettuce is worthless as fiber too.


74 posted on 08/18/2018 12:15:24 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: fireman15

No reason for paleo or keto to be particularly high protein.


75 posted on 08/18/2018 12:15:25 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

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Nothing can answer a question that begs beyond reality.

Keep your eyes rolling, they can’t see anything anyway.


76 posted on 08/18/2018 12:16:28 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: TheStickman

Meat is poison if you have gout.


77 posted on 08/18/2018 12:17:24 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: fireman15

These guys weren’t low carb in any sense of the word, and comparing low-carb and regular-carb guys of the same weight is a FALSE comparison. You have to compare the 210 low carb guy with the 275 high-carb guy because that’s what low carb does: gives fat guys (and to a lesser extent fat women) a hack that lets them achieve and maintain weightloss that balanced-macro diets have never been able to deliver.


78 posted on 08/18/2018 12:18:18 PM PDT by only1percent ( who)
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To: Songcraft

I only eat animal sourced foods: meat, eggs, milk, drink water & use salt.

Breakfast these days is 6-8 oz of ground beef fried in bacon grease and/or butter with 4-5 strips worth of bacon.

Lunch will be the same except I will use a different brand of bacon for a taste variance.

Dinner is always 3 fried or scrambled eggs with 6-oz of some fried or broiled meat. Mostly beef but we do have pork chops on Sundays & we usually eat a good ribeye or new york strip once a week & the rest of the week is steaks cut from a larger chunk of london broil.

Most evenings after 8pm I will fry up 4-5 slices of bacon.

I only eat when I am hungry. I only eat what my body wants & that makes me feel good. I eat as much as I want at every meal. The numbers will vary from day to day depending on how hungry I am.

If I feel sluggish through the day (almost never happens) I will eat some pemmican & that always gives me the boost I need to make it to the next meal.


79 posted on 08/18/2018 12:18:34 PM PDT by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: editor-surveyor

Sure, whatever you say.


80 posted on 08/18/2018 12:19:15 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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