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Neanderthal sex boosted immunity in modern humans
BBC ^ | August 26, 2011 | Matt McGrath

Posted on 08/26/2011 10:40:58 AM PDT by decimon

Sexual relations between ancient humans and their evolutionary cousins are critical for our modern immune systems, researchers report in Science journal.

Mating with Neanderthals and another ancient group called Denisovans introduced genes that help us cope with viruses to this day, they conclude.

Previous research had indicated that prehistoric interbreeding led to up to 4% of the modern human genome.

The new work identifies stretches of DNA derived from our distant relatives.

In the human immune system, the HLA (human leucocyte antigen) family of genes plays an important role in defending against foreign invaders such as viruses.

The authors say that the origins of some HLA class 1 genes are proof that our ancient relatives interbred with Neanderthals and Denisovans for a period.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; History
KEYWORDS: denisovans; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; moochelle; multiregionalism; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals
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To: decimon
This is what slays me about so much "science" reporting.

whereas the recent migrants from Africa wouldn't have had these genes,

Why not? Who says? They just drop a dubious fact into the mix without support or explanation.

21 posted on 08/26/2011 11:39:02 AM PDT by DManA
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To: BUGSWOL

http://www.rense.com/general45/immune.htm

“These factors include resistance to HIV replication within CD4 immune cells as well as a mutation, so far found only among Caucasians, in a receptor on immune cells that may make these cells tougher for the virus to infiltrate.”


22 posted on 08/26/2011 11:40:14 AM PDT by NorthStarStateConservative (Springtime in America will arrive on January 21, 2013.)
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To: Jonty30
"Just guessing us wanting to have sex with them probably wasn’t on our bucket list."

Ever seen a beautiful woman with a butt ugly man?

23 posted on 08/26/2011 11:40:53 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Jonty30

It was a few years back in Louisville Kentucky. I met a family of Russian-Jewish immigrants. They had an attractive daughter in her early 20s but the entire family I swear to God had a lot of the physical attributes one thinks of as Neanderthal; the brow ridges, big noses, weak chins and stocky builds. I remember thinking at the time, 20 years ago, there must be an isolated village in Russia where Neanderthal survived.

Even with all these traits they were not unintelligent or unattractive. As a matter of fact I found the daughter very attractive.


24 posted on 08/26/2011 11:42:57 AM PDT by BUGSWOL (No one was ever burned at the stake for saying the Earth was flat)
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To: donhunt

“I think I updated my immune system when I was in the Navy.”

Nothing the Corpsman couldn’t take care of with one of those big “Silver Bullet” shots I hope.


25 posted on 08/26/2011 11:56:23 AM PDT by Nakota
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To: decimon
Cro-Magnum, I mean Cro-Magnons mating with Neanderthals. Possible I guess. After all I read somewhere that AIDS came for a bunch of Africans trying to mate with monkeys. As an after thought, that gives a whole new meaning to "Monkey-Butt".
26 posted on 08/26/2011 11:58:31 AM PDT by Tupelo ( 2012 TEA PARTYER but no longer a Republican)
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To: decimon

Denisovan's tooth

27 posted on 08/26/2011 11:58:57 AM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: Jonty30

Neanderthals are not a different species.

They are Homo Sapiens Neanderthalensis as compared to our Homo Sapiens Sapiens.

We are of the same species, different family, so there is no reason why they couldn’t interbreed.


28 posted on 08/26/2011 12:03:35 PM PDT by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: seowulf

I personally doubt they were really from a different family.

We were probably, maybe not quite, but as closely related as the different ethnicities are today.


29 posted on 08/26/2011 12:16:32 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Tupelo
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30 posted on 08/26/2011 12:36:19 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Time to get me some immunity!)
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To: Jonty30

Projectile weapons such as slings, atlatls, and bows probably made homo sap a superior fighter.


31 posted on 08/26/2011 2:08:09 PM PDT by darth
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To: decimon

“our ancestors”

My understanding of genetics is that there is not just one genome,so to say “our ancestors” is introducing a universalism that is not warranted.

All the anti-white propaganda coming out of supposedly unbiased academia is sickening,and it`s been going on for decades.


32 posted on 08/26/2011 2:09:39 PM PDT by MikeyPorter76
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To: darth

I’m sure that helped.

But if they got a hold of you, you were screwed, in more ways than one. :)


33 posted on 08/26/2011 2:11:42 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: DannyTN; Jonty30

“Ever seen a beautiful woman with a butt ugly man? “

So...you’re saying the Neanderthals were rich?


34 posted on 08/26/2011 2:20:03 PM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: Mr Rogers
"So...you’re saying the Neanderthals were rich?"

Possibly..! Lol They carried the biggest clubs around.

35 posted on 08/26/2011 2:24:37 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
Maybe the knuckles of the Neanderthals weren't the only things that was dragging the ground?
36 posted on 08/26/2011 2:28:01 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: decimon; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks decimon. There were two other Neandertal articles online, not sure everyone would appreciate if I posted the accumulated backlog from last night's downtime though. ;')
The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve

in local libraries
Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]
To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


37 posted on 08/26/2011 3:09:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: decimon
The Jimmy Castor Bunch!

Troglodyte

38 posted on 08/26/2011 3:56:55 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: decimon

It’s sorta funny. A few years ago, not very many in fact, we were being assured that DNA testing positively PROVED that modern man and Neanderthals never mated AND couldn’t interbreed.

One theory advanced, if I recall correctly, was that modern men woukd have found Neanderthals sexually unattractive.

Seeing that men have been known to mate with walruses, I found that idea a little thin, myself.


39 posted on 08/27/2011 7:15:36 AM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
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To: decimon; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; Battle Axe; null and void; ...
Thanks decimon -immunology ping

The Shaping of Modern Human Immune Systems by Multiregional Admixture with Archaic Humans

40 posted on 08/27/2011 7:42:54 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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