Posted on 12/11/2010 4:28:00 PM PST by NoGrayZone
To make a long story short.... as a child, my brother saw a demon outside our window (back then you had to have the tv by a window because of heat generated). He saw this demon "dancing" around our window. He has been plagued w/ nothing but horror.
Now, in these days, he has over come his demons; however, his first born son has seen this demon, a few months ago, outside his window. His first born son described to him ( at first reluctant that he would not be believed) the same thing my brother saw as a child. My brother was stunned.
We need help. I truly believe in satan and his demons to be as real as we are. What can we do? Who do we turn to?
Some may see this as nonsense, but we are living this in real life. Can anyone help us or at least lead us to someone who can help?
Unless mental illness is telepathic, that's not realistic.
This guy's son described the same thing he saw. That gives it a LOT of legitimacy in my book.
I'm presuming that the father never shared with him what he saw. There's no other way for the son to know it unless he saw it too.
Yes- vain repetition will cure all.
But I will pray for your family.
>> The father and son saw the same apparition ...
Just throwing out some alternatives to the prevailing demon theories.
My point was that they all belong to the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry, a group of pests who go around and insult anyone who believes in God or the supernatural or the paranormal.
And don’t get me wrong. I think Uri Geller is a total fraud. If he could really bend spoons and all that, he wouldn’t need to keep suing his critics.
I also use sea salt to sprinkle around my property and house.
Ok but Randi is not a pest (is he still alive?) he debunked people like Geller who were preying on people.
Who gave you the authority to assume how others perceive NoGrayZone's family's spirituality? Why are you attacking those who gave suggestions? Why are you lifting yourself above all others, up on a pedestal? Where has anyone said that she is not spiritual? May I suggest lowering the dosage of ego.
I know if I was going through a difficult situation as NoGrayZone is, I would listen to the most obvious mundane suggestion. Maybe that one silly suggestion is something that may have slipped my mind doing during strenuous times.
Right now NoGrayZone has an added chore of sifting the wheat from the chaff suggestions. God will lead her to the right one. The one that will bring Peace to her family.
What’s the chances that there’s a curse on your family?
I agree. You’ve got FReepmail.
There's a pastor who claims that what Jung referred to as that really was demons, but since it was not fashionable at the time to claim that, he renamed them.
You're right. I never thought of it that way. He must obey Him, though.
However, accounts in the gospels seem to indicate that the lesser demons fear Jesus.
Interesting. What became of the girl? Is she, perchance, foreign minister of an albeit deliberately diminished superpower?
That sounds eerily familiar.....
The problem is that Satan can appear as an angel of light.
I'd say, though, that it's a safe guess that anything you see that is not material or an optical illusion, is satanic.
At least, I'd err on the side of caution and presume that until solidly convinced otherwise.
Two children seeing apparently the same thing years apart is beyond creepy.
Wrong.
Satan was a created being spoken into existance by God (Jesus). God/Jesus defeated Satan on the cross when he took our punishment to give us salvation.
Satan hates, and fears, Jesus.
....Now let’s hear all the defenses of why the testimony of a 4 year old child must be beieved. I can’t wait.
More removed from crawling and babbling than you realize.
My son was speaking, not babbling or baby talk, full, grammatically complete sentences, by the time he was two. Any adult could carry on a conversation with him and get intelligent, mature responses.
It blew me away what kind of reasoning power, powers of observation, and abstract thinking a child that age can have. People don't expect a lot out of kids that age and the kids live up to, or down to, those expectations.
I realize that many kids that age can have active imaginations, but when the boy described something that he knew nothing about and the father immediately recognized it, that gives it a LOT of credibility to me.
How many four year olds have you interacted with personally? Do you have kids of your own? You talk like someone who has very experience with children. Those of us who've dealt with them know better.
Hmmm, sounds like a number of threads of various flavors here on FR, wink nudge hardee har har.
Cheers!
....Now let’s hear all the defenses of why the testimony of a 4 year old child must be beieved. I can’t wait.
More removed from crawling and babbling than you realize.
My son was speaking, not babbling or baby talk, full, grammatically complete sentences, by the time he was two. Any adult could carry on a conversation with him and get intelligent, mature responses.
It blew me away what kind of reasoning power, powers of observation, and abstract thinking a child that age can have. People don't expect a lot out of kids that age and the kids live up to, or down to, those expectations.
I realize that many kids that age can have active imaginations, but when the boy described something that he knew nothing about and the father immediately recognized it, that gives it a LOT of credibility to me.
How many four year olds have you interacted with personally? Do you have kids of your own? You talk like someone who has very experience with children. Those of us who've dealt with them know better.
Both of my children could speak in complete grammatically correct sentences when they were two. One was reading at four. I never talked down to them, and read them many books.
Babbling?
Crawling?
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