Is Recession Preparing a New Breed of Survivalist? [Survival Today - an On going Thread #2]

May 05th,2008

[nw_arizona_granny]

Yahoo ran an interesting article this morning indicating a rise in the number of survivalist communities cropping up around the country. I have been wondering myself how much of the recent energy crisis is causing people to do things like stockpile food and water, grow their own vegetables, etc. Could it be that there are many people out there stockpiling and their increased buying has caused food prices to increase? It’s an interesting theory, but I believe increased food prices have more to do with rising fuel prices as cost-to-market costs have increased and grocers are simply passing those increases along to the consumer. A recent stroll through the camping section of Wal-Mart did give me pause - what kinds of things are prudent to have on hand in the event of a worldwide shortage of food and/or fuel? Survivalist in Training

I’ve been interested in survival stories since I was a kid, which is funny considering I grew up in a city. Maybe that’s why the idea of living off the land appealed to me. My grandfather and I frequently took camping trips along the Blue Ridge Parkway and around the Smoky Mountains. Looking back, some of the best times we had were when we stayed at campgrounds without electricity hookups, because it forced us to use what we had to get by. My grandfather was well-prepared with a camp stove and lanterns (which ran off propane), and when the sun went to bed we usually did along with it. We played cards for entertainment, and in the absence of televisions, games, etc. we shared many great conversations. Survivalist in the Neighborhood

[netmilsmom]

Ooooo! Great advice on the human urine! The lady behind us did spread human hair (from a local beauty shop) all around her garden. It seemed to keep the bunnies away but nothing else.

I was driving home from the store yesterday and was trailing a skunk!!! Right here in our suburb of Detroit! I was afraid to scare him and have a smelly car so I went very slowly until he got off the road. Phew!

The wildlife around here is bold and plentiful. When times were better, construction was huge just north of us. They flattened woods and we got the wildlife in our burb. It’s like watching the kids movie, “Over the Hedge”. Raccoon, skunk, opossum, and chipmunk, I swear they plot during the day to raid our homes! We had herds of squirrel, to the point that every house on the street had a nest in the rafters or siding. (don’t get me wrong, those babies were darling when Dad moved the nest, but what a pain). Then a mating pair of hawks moved in!!!! God gives you what you need!

But thank you truly for thinking of us. My motto has been, don’t panic, prepare!

[texas_mrs]

Fried okra is GREAT when with little cubes of red potatoes and a sprinkling of cornmeal.

[netmilsmom]

That’s an amazing site! Thanks!

[Eagle50AE]

Yes...With Emphasis on the “ ' Tard ”

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

Welcome to the thread, I hope you find interesting material here. Join in and help with either questions or answers, we can all learn from each other.

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

Hi and welcome, we have not only this thread but an earlier one. Let us know if you want the URL. It’s on the first page of this thread somewhere.

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

Welcome to our thread. I hope you find valuable information here. We can all learn from each other as we go along.

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

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[TenthAmendmentChampion]

http://ferfal.blogspot.com/2009/02/relocating-to-argentina.html
Relocating to Argentina

Don Williams said...
Ferfal, this is a question so you may not want to post it.

(By the way, do you ever have a Open Thread? I.e,,where you ask for questions and people submit them as comments? It seems rude to insert a question about an unrelated subject into the middle of an ongoing discussion like this. I wasn’t sure how you wanted questions to be submitted.)

Anyway, some friends of mine have talked about people they know relocating to Costa Rica as expatriates for retirement. Seems relatively safe, nice scenery and money goes farther.

If someone ever considered relocating to Argentina from the USA, what would you advise? Is it very important to learn Spanish well before moving or can one get by with tourist Spanish phrases and English until one learns the language?

Are there unconscious personal habits or manners which Americans have that offend people in Argentina? Taboos or customs we unwitting violate?

There are bad-mannered people everywhere, but I’m taking about offenses that even a well-intentioned expatriate is likely to make.

I understand that the Catholic Church is far more widespread in Argentina than here in America — so American Protestants should, I assume, avoid religious discussions.

FerFAL said...
Argentine people are usually very friendly towards tourists.
There’s a growing anti-American propaganda being spread by our petty government since we felt to unquestionable 3rd would status with the K regime (“K”, that’s the way the Kirchenr family refers to itself, as surreal as it may sound we even have “K Youth” …. Yes… comparisons with other extremist “xx youths”.. lets better talk about something else)
Anyway, as I was saying, the K regime is pretty close to Castro, Chaves, Evo Morales and some other wonderful human beings, so they outspokenly promote hatred towards Americans and the American culture in general.

But remember what I said about the slow slide, and about Argentina once being a rather prosperous nation? Well, it’s true.
And there’s still some of that cosmopolite attitude left. The hatred hasn’t settled yet. Maybe the next generation will be brainwashed by the K, if they manage to stay in power that long.
But for now the people of Argentina openly welcome tourists, specially those from 1st world countries.
People coming here from other 3rd world countries are sometimes less welcomed, given the already high unemployment rate.

There’s not much you should worry about, other than the things I often talk about regarding security.

If you make the mistake of going into a wrong part of town, understand its different from American bad neighborhood. Go into Villa 31 by mistake for example and they’ll swarm like rats from the building to rob you. You have to be more careful generally speaking, for obvious reasons.

If you come here I’d make sure to research very well the location you plan to live in.
If you choose well, you’ll have a good time. It’s common for people to come live here for a while and end up getting married.
There’s no weird cultural difference that may sound offensive. Pretty ordinary people, Catholic but not in any way extreme regarding religion.
Most of us are baptized, and when old enough get basic catholic education and “communion”, which is a religious ceremony where you willingly adopt the Catholic religion.
Just being polite and nice like you’d do in USA is good enough.
The only thing I can think of that is kind of different is the way people say hello and greet one another.

Handshakes are ok for people you really don’t know at all, but among people you trust or show a bit of appreciation for you kiss them on the cheek. Not really kiss, but like brush the cheeks and kind of kiss the air. Sounds complicated to explain, but its the most common way of greeting around here.
Even among guys, refusing to kiss someone that you pretend to be friends with or even just get along, that’s the way you should greet one another.
Handshakes are mostly considered very formal, reserved for business encounters.
Most of the time if it someone you don’t know and don’t want to know either, a simple “hi” (hola) with no contact of any kind if preferred.
I can’t think of anything that might be considered taboo.
Maybe other Argentines or people that have been here can think of something else.

But first come visit and take a look.
I’ll show you around a bit if you want, serious. :)

Take care.

FerFAL

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The “K” Youth... creepy. Coming here soon? - TAC

[Quix]

THANKS.

AGREED.

Please consider posting your dream/vision on this thread.

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

I just wanted to tell all of you about a vivid dream that I woke up from this morning (thank God!).

I dreamed we were at the beach in California, and for some reason the wind was blowing out to sea, yet it was gray and cloudy. The waves were very strong and it was chilly but bearable.

We were near a tall building like a hotel right on the beach, and suddenly there was a gigantic wall of water coming toward us.

We ran behind the hotel and the wave seemed to miss us.

Then suddenly (you know how dreams are) we were on a tall, tall bluff looking down at the wild ocean. Another wave, nearly as tall as the cliff, was bearing down on us. It hit, and the water licked the sides of the bluff, but the building we were in (another hotel) stood untouched.

Then as we watched, the ocean drained back so that there was bare land as far as we could see. I knew another wave was coming, much taller than the first two. I awoke at this point.

It seemed prophetic to me, and I wanted you all to know about it.

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

Obama Pledges Nearly $1 Billion To Gaza; Hamas Will Extort Money To Fight Israel
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2192605/posts

[Quix]

Certainly it’s prophetic and similar to identical to a host of other dreams many other people have had the last few years.

[DelaWhere]

>>>Obama Says He’s Appointed Biden to Oversee Implementation of Stimulus Plan (Oh I feel better now)<<<

Yep, While he was making the announcement, market started South... continued to where it ended the day -250.83 on the DOW...

Last time he gave a speech that was televised widely, it was -182....

Maybe if he put a sock in it..... LOL

[Quix]

MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR SHARING IT.

Do you keep a dream journal?

[steve0]

I previously posted the following at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2192877/posts : Basically trying to get a good estimate on how much time we have before a major collapse such as we saw in Iceland. Having a hard time finding some good websites that have good models on what we are likely to encounter if national debt gets much bigger, or China refuses to attend future Treasury T-Bill auctions.

Hey, I have 4 kids and I need to provide and protect them, as much as I can, from harm and hardship. There is too much conflicting information for one man to sort out. I have read that I should: 1. Watch news on the US. Treasury Auctions, as if less buyers or China doesn’t buy then I am justified in resorting to panic? 2. Panic when intrade World Crisis Index hits 75? www.intrade.com/widgets/crisis/WorldCrisisIndex.html 3. Panic when US service on debt gets close to or exceeds US revenue receipts? 4. Just before Obama nationalizes(which is imminent) the banks? Isn’t that the trigger point where the Krona currency in Iceland dropped by half its value? 5. We are Freepers, so why did we fail at not recognizing what was happening on 9/15/08 until long after the occurrence? Isn’t there some way we could have known about it so we could decide whether to panic or not? For example, isn’t there some indices or measure we could be watching to see if its about to happen again? http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/21350/

Thanks for any information you can provide. Is there any other issues I am failing to consider? I posted some previous questions that weren’t fully answered. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2179659/posts

Yeah, that’s what I am asking. ABOUT how much time do we have? We have the some of the smartest people here on this forum, so we should be able to point to a few measures or websites that monitor this stuff. For example, is there some measure like money supply, financial calculations. Surely, the people in Iceland, Argentina, and Rhodesia could have worked at finding some advance notice of the pain before it fully impacted them. Why can’t we?

(Dream Journal? I have in the past.)

[nw_arizona_granny]

http://www.docuticker.com/?p=24910

FERC submits Alaska Gas Pipeline Report to Congress

FERC submits Alaska Gas Pipeline Report to Congress
Source: Federal Energy Regulatory Commission

The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission today submitted to Congress its “Seventh Report to Congress on the Progress Made in Licensing and Constructing the Alaska Natural Gas Pipeline,” as required by the Energy Policy Act of 2005.

The seven-page document outlines the major developments that have occurred since the August 2008 report:

* The Denali partnership of BP and ConocoPhillips has continued with its FERC pre-filing process, performed some field work and hired a contractor to evaluate the major gas treatment plant planned on the North Slope;
* The state of Alaska has completed the selection of TransCanada Alaska Company, LLC and Foothills Pipe Lines, Ltd., affiliates of TransCanada Corporation, as the licensee under its Alaska Gasline Inducement Act program; and
* The Alaskan Northwest Natural Gas Transportation Company was dissolved and surrendered the last of its permits and approvals for the original Alaska natural gas pipeline approved by Presidents Carter and Reagan.

+ Seventh Report to Congress on Progress Made in Licensing and Constructing the Alaska Natural Gas Pipeline (PDF; 42 KB)

http://www.ferc.gov/news/news-releases/2009/2009-1/02-20-09.asp

[nw_arizona_granny]

http://www.docuticker.com/?p=24919

2009 State of the State Speeches

Most governors unveil their priorities in “state of the state addresses” or budget speeches presented to the legislatures early in the year. Below is a list of this year’s speeches and links to those that have occurred.

Stateline.org also has archived these speeches going back to 2000 and has put together a special page linking to daily news items about the governors’ speeches.
Source: Stateline.org (Pew Center on the States)

http://www.stateline.org/live/static/State_of_the_state_speeches

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

I don’t keep a dream journal. I don’t typically remember my dreams. Maybe I should start, along with a prayer and general journal. Perhaps all in one.

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

The terrifying thing about nationalizing the [major] banks is that their stock value will fall to zero. Besides the devastating effect on the stock market, this will put innumerable smaller banks over their legislated lending limit of 12:1, making them insolvent as well. The failure of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac was the start of the general bank insolvency. The entire banking system will fail if 0 does this.

You have made some great points. Welcome to the thread!