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Is Recession Preparing a New Breed of Survivalist? [Survival Today - an On going Thread #2]
May 05th,2008

Posted on 02/09/2009 12:36:11 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny

Yahoo ran an interesting article this morning indicating a rise in the number of survivalist communities cropping up around the country. I have been wondering myself how much of the recent energy crisis is causing people to do things like stockpile food and water, grow their own vegetables, etc. Could it be that there are many people out there stockpiling and their increased buying has caused food prices to increase? It’s an interesting theory, but I believe increased food prices have more to do with rising fuel prices as cost-to-market costs have increased and grocers are simply passing those increases along to the consumer. A recent stroll through the camping section of Wal-Mart did give me pause - what kinds of things are prudent to have on hand in the event of a worldwide shortage of food and/or fuel? Survivalist in Training

I’ve been interested in survival stories since I was a kid, which is funny considering I grew up in a city. Maybe that’s why the idea of living off the land appealed to me. My grandfather and I frequently took camping trips along the Blue Ridge Parkway and around the Smoky Mountains. Looking back, some of the best times we had were when we stayed at campgrounds without electricity hookups, because it forced us to use what we had to get by. My grandfather was well-prepared with a camp stove and lanterns (which ran off propane), and when the sun went to bed we usually did along with it. We played cards for entertainment, and in the absence of televisions, games, etc. we shared many great conversations. Survivalist in the Neighborhood


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To: nw_arizona_granny

Granny, thanks for the ping and for all of the valuable information that you have provided on this forum. YOU ARE A FREEPER KEEPER!


2,361 posted on 02/22/2009 1:23:12 PM PST by PGalt
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Interesting that you can cruise around on their website folders. That’s usually considered a security risk.<<<

You would be amazed at how many are exposed like that.

LOL, I was finding them a couple years before I explained on the TM thread, how I had found a file that I linked on the thread........LOL, they told me that I had just taught the thread how to hack and I didn’t have a clue that was what I was doing.

I was just a newbie granny, who still does not know what she is really doing on the computer.

I did much better, using DOSS.


2,362 posted on 02/22/2009 1:23:46 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: DelaWhere

Granny, In case someone misses going to this link, I hope you don’t mind if I share my blurry monitor with everyone.

Sometimes we need that.


Cemetery Escort Duty (email)<<<

Not at all, we all need to be reminded at times that we do still have fine people in America and that they did not all vote in the leaders we have today.


2,363 posted on 02/22/2009 1:26:37 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Hug your son for me, my brother did well in the Air Force and learned a trade he has followed for 50 years.

Thank you, I sure will. And that is what we are hoping for our son as well. He's not into academics, so a hands-on career is what he needs. And the AF will hopefully be just what he needs.

No, this is not being taken from Thread #1, what you get from me, is where I wound up, after a series of clicks on links, often I have no idea how I got there.


Well, irregardless of that, you do a great job! (If you want to add me to your WOT email list, I'll Freepmail you my other email addy - and from there, yet another...err on the side of caution, you know.)
2,364 posted on 02/22/2009 1:28:01 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: DelaWhere
really like West Virginia, however, they have gotten so much government money, that they are almost becoming an extension of Washington, DC..... Huge buildings for FBI and quite a few other government agencies were built there as a result of deals to get Senator Byrd’s votes...

That was my one concern with the state. That between Byrd's association as well as the fact that it is a pretty poor state, that the people would be a bunch of whiny victims with their hands out. Much like the illegals are here.

But, even if that were the case, with 100+ acres, I could disregard them all (unless I needed to go into town).
2,365 posted on 02/22/2009 1:31:11 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: nw_arizona_granny

“my mobile is 50 years old and shows it and there is no way that I can make it pretty, as I can’t even go outside.”

For real, Granny?


2,366 posted on 02/22/2009 1:35:08 PM PST by combat_boots ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."Aldous Huxley)
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To: DelaWhere

Granny, Those beans can be a really good source of nutrients and protein. You are absolutely correct. <<<

I was raised poor on beans and cornbread.

When I was about 30, I read that the Mexicans had the best diet, for balanced minerals and vitamins/food value.

Beans, rice and corn.

I know that a Jalapeno pepper a day, will keep you from getting colds, they are the highest source of vitamin C.

And over the years, when I was really hungry, it would be for cornbread and beans, a real feast would also have greens and fried potatoes.

Buttermilk to drink and lots of butter for the corn bread.

I only found out that I liked Lentils, ten years ago.

We grew up thinking that the way to eat rice, was with butter, honey/or / sugar and canned milk on it, and I now add a sprinkle of nutmeg to mine.

I remember my surprise at how ‘the other folks’ used rice in place of potatoes.

I like rice and eat it often, just as the other folks do, but I never feel like it fills my hunger needs, only the taste buds are satisfied.

It is nice that beans are so good for you.


2,367 posted on 02/22/2009 1:36:02 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: DelaWhere

Some group took an empty house, put marigolds or some kind of regular plant in trays and put gro-lux lights on it - the very first night they did, the local law enforcement went to a judge, got a warrant and broke down the front door as the SWAT team stormed the house - They were greeted by the head of the local group standing there with their attorney.<<<

No, I missed that report.

We have so many growers of pot here and greenhouses of it, plus the meth labs, that I don’t blame the swat team for doing a raid on them.

There was one place with a greenhouse listed in MLS for sale, I missed the tour that day, but my Broker went, she said it was designed with a huge pit in the middle, so if someone managed to get in the greenhouse and was not forewarned, they would fall in the pit and alarms would be going off.

Another kept mean Geese in there pot house.

Here, they use the vacant houses for meth labs and some poor real estate agent will sell one and then have a lawsuit that costs them more than the house is worth, and has to pay to have the house stripped, for in cooking it, it is in the walls and all the cracks.

Here the law is that the real estate agent “should have known”.

The cops checked my greenhouses often, I knew it was going to happen and ignored it......as I hate all types of dope and the death and destruction that it has caused.

No, I did not say I would welcome a swat team, but if I was a cop, it would be a swat team that I would want backing me up.

I wish that everyone would listen to the police scanners for their area and learn what is really going on and not stick their heads in the sand.

You can listen on the internet, I do.

google for:
police scanners on the internet
[add your state]

http://www.google.com/search?q=police+scanners+on+the+internet&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=5RM&q=listen+to+police+scanners+on+the+internet&btnG=Search

I listen to several different cities and states here:

http://co.scanamerica.us/index.php


2,368 posted on 02/22/2009 1:56:05 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

2,369 posted on 02/22/2009 2:10:20 PM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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To: DelaWhere

I like your Victory poster.

Yes, I think that once we did grow our vitamins at the door.

Have you ever noticed that in some areas the kids are puny looking and not as sharp as they once were?

Of course with tv and computers, sunshine is rare for them and they don’t know how to play without electric toys.

I want to see and hear them running in the yards.


2,370 posted on 02/22/2009 2:33:27 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

>>>>The cops checked my greenhouses often, I knew it was going to happen and ignored it......as I hate all types of dope and the death and destruction that it has caused.<<<<

Granny, believe me, I understand. My big objection is that instead of stopping by and asking, some go to extraordinary lengths to ‘snoop’. Take one person I got to know when I had greenhouse tomatoes. He had 2 whole greenhouse full of ripening tomatoes and one January day one of the helicopter patrols decided they ‘needed’ to take a closer look... Blew the covers off 2 32 X 96’ greenhouses - he lost both houses of tomatoes. This on top of the fact that the local police chief lived two houses down and used to come over and buy tomatoes from him regularly. The State Chopper Jockey decided on his own that HE was going to score a big hit.
In the process, he came darned close to crashing the $1.5 million dollar taxpayer owned chopper as the covers swirled up and were coming toward the rotor.

My brother in law (the one who gives me a deer of two every year) is a Lt. Detective Lt. in a large city here in the east with a big drug problem. He has even worked several years undercover. Yep, I know what they are up against, but he always tries to apply an ounce of common sense to the situation.

I also hate drugs and what they have done to our society (and have never been even interested in trying any.) but as my grandfather used to say - ‘There are other ways of killing a cat besides kissing it to death.’


2,371 posted on 02/22/2009 2:33:42 PM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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To: combat_boots

I think the title for this mobile is 1952 or it could be 1062, I haven’t looked at it in over 30 years, it was on the land when we bought it.

So it is closing on 50 years.

It was fine 30 years ago, but now I am surrounded by fancy homes and they are all waiting for me to die, so the mobile will be moved.

All it has to do is stand as long as I can and that is not going to be that much longer.

I have an oxygen generator that goes 24 hours a day and I can go as far as the oxygen hose goes.

So, I am remembering the times when I could do a full days work, garden and clean the goat pen, for I will not do it again in this life.


2,372 posted on 02/22/2009 2:38:40 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: CottonBall

Thank you, I sure will. And that is what we are hoping for our son as well. He’s not into academics, so a hands-on career is what he needs. And the AF will hopefully be just what he needs.<<<

He sounds like Ray, he was always in trouble, no not bad trouble, just dumb things, and had his car all fixed up, so the cops never missed him.

The third time he went to court, the Judge asked him which branch of the service he was joining?

“I don’t know.”

“Fine, I think the Air Force will suit you just the ticket.”

And he gave him a few days to join,

What ever he learned, at 70, the Air Force still wants to know where he is living, in case they need him.

He has worked on most of the farm equipment and is an electric forklift specialist, who is still working, as the company wants him there and no one else.

yes, send me an email address, but I must warn you that it is not going to be pleasant stuff that you get, and some days there will be quiet a lot of it....


2,373 posted on 02/22/2009 2:45:17 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: PGalt

You are welcome.

Thanks for the kind words, one never knows what will happen next.

Still here, for now.


2,374 posted on 02/22/2009 2:46:34 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; All

You’re a gem, teaching all us folks here about getting on with getting by, and here you are in such a place in your world. For those of us who’ve been close to our folks & grandfolks that’ve now gone on to their reward, you represent a beacon of hope. You send us off on butterfly wings, as fine as gossamer and fascinating as the sound of hummingbird wings.

Thank you.

Boots


2,375 posted on 02/22/2009 2:49:25 PM PST by combat_boots ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."Aldous Huxley)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Thanks for the kind words, one never knows what will happen next.

If you have an emergency and can't contact usual sources, my sister (not sister-in-law) could help you (in a pinch). Many FReepers, including me, care about you granny and are thankful for you.

2,376 posted on 02/22/2009 2:51:45 PM PST by PGalt
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To: CottonBall; nw_arizona_granny; DelaWhere

I think it’s about time to convert the last 1000 posts of the old thread and the content to date of this thread to a new file. I’ll work on that for a while and upload it soon.

DelaWhere or somebody suggested it be in .pdf format so I will do that next time. Maybe I’ll convert it in an old Acrobat format so even if you have an older computer you can still open them.


2,377 posted on 02/22/2009 2:53:09 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Excellent post


2,378 posted on 02/22/2009 2:56:36 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
He sounds like Ray, he was always in trouble, no not bad trouble, just dumb things, and had his car all fixed up, so the cops never missed him.

Sounds like my son - who just does foolish things, not necessarily bad.

The third time he went to court, the Judge asked him which branch of the service he was joining? “I don’t know.” “Fine, I think the Air Force will suit you just the ticket.” And he gave him a few days to join,

Sounds like a judge who knew what a young man needs.

yes, send me an email address, but I must warn you that it is not going to be pleasant stuff that you get, and some days there will be quiet a lot of it....

No problem - it it's too much, I'll just ask to be let off of it. I'm not shy ;)
2,379 posted on 02/22/2009 3:01:45 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: nw_arizona_granny

The stevia thing definitely is a craze, but the health people swear by it. It’s natural, not a concocted chemical, so it’s supposed to be good for you and everything. I can’t get used to the taste, though. I’d just as soon get used to things being less sweet in the first place.


2,380 posted on 02/22/2009 3:03:25 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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